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Question: Autopilot: What do you need more, the third party or the CWS?


Existing CWS (as on the real 737) 32 (66.7%) The third party support (CIVA etc) 16 (33.3%) Total votes: 48 « Created by: Captain Sim on: Apr 24^th, 2012 at 4:23pm »

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ayster Full Member Offline Posts: 127 Location: Manchester, UK Joined: Mar 8^th, 2008	FSX default hdg to be used by a third party addon? Apr 23^rd, 2012 at 7:43pm	Print Post
	A way of allowing third party products to drive the autopilot, such as the civa ins or the isg fms. Maybe a switch to allow fsx default hdg to be used, as this is what these apps use.

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CoolP Senior Member Offline Posts: 2568 Joined: Jan 17^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: A way of allowing third party .... Reply #1 - Apr 24^th, 2012 at 11:59am	Print Post
	I double that. The switch on he 707 was a nice addition, maybe the 737 can get something like it too.


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Captain Sim CS Team Offline Posts: 4235 Joined: Nov 7^th, 2005	Re: A way of allowing third party .... Reply #2 - Apr 24^th, 2012 at 4:23pm	Print Post
	The 737 A/P is a custom one with CWS. The fsx default hdg is taken by CWS. If you wish the third party (CIVA etc) to use the default hdg we'll have to remove the CWS. What do you need more, the third party or the CWS? Please vote.

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NaMcO Ex Member	Re: A way of allowing third party .... Reply #3 - Apr 24^th, 2012 at 4:26pm	Print Post
	I definitely want a real 737, so no CIVA for me thank you.


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Markoz CS Team Offline Posts: 12364 Location: Victoria, Australia Joined: Apr 24^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: A way of allowing third party .... Reply #4 - Apr 24^th, 2012 at 4:29pm	Print Post
	Seeing as I have to choose between one or the other, it has to be the CWS.

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ayster Full Member Offline Posts: 127 Location: Manchester, UK Joined: Mar 8^th, 2008	Re: FSX default hdg to be used by a third party addon? Reply #5 - Apr 24^th, 2012 at 5:14pm	Print Post
	If its a choice between realism and a nice to have option then I will choose realism everytime. So CWS here too. Shame theres not somekind of way of disabling the CWS with a switch or a setting in ACE, but guess that would be too much work to implement right now... maybe for version 2.0?!!

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CoolP Senior Member Offline Posts: 2568 Joined: Jan 17^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: FSX default hdg to be used by a third party addon? Reply #6 - Apr 24^th, 2012 at 5:15pm	Print Post
	Selectable via ACE or switch in the cockpit. Fits both parties and, as the CWS is already in that plane and the FSX HDG mode is.. in FSX, not much work needed. � However, even if CWS for the bank was lost, it wouldn't change much on the ways I operate the plane. CWS pitch is nice and will still be there, but the rest is AP to MAN, then via HDG select, pitch remains CWS. If that allows the Civa and FMC addons to work, I'm in.


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Markoz CS Team Offline Posts: 12364 Location: Victoria, Australia Joined: Apr 24^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: FSX default hdg to be used by a third party addon? Reply #7 - Apr 24^th, 2012 at 5:23pm	Print Post
	CoolP wrote on Apr 24^th, 2012 at 5:15pm: Selectable via ACE or switch in the cockpit. Fits both parties and, as the CWS is already in that plane and the FSX HDG mode is.. in FSX, not much work needed. � Sound like a reasonable option. Then we ALL could switch between them if and when we wanted to.

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CoolP Senior Member Offline Posts: 2568 Joined: Jan 17^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: FSX default hdg to be used by a third party addon? Reply #8 - Apr 24^th, 2012 at 5:25pm	Print Post
	I have to applaud to CS for asking their customers by the way. Very open policy.


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lucatrader Full Member Offline Posts: 71 Location: western europe Joined: Aug 10^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: FSX default hdg to be used by a third party addon? Reply #9 - Apr 24^th, 2012 at 6:23pm	Print Post
	CIVA CIVA CIVA

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simbiosi Full Member Offline Posts: 94 Joined: Mar 1^st, 2008	Re: FSX default hdg to be used by a third party addon? Reply #10 - Apr 24^th, 2012 at 8:13pm	Print Post
	IMHO It can be done, where the two things work together. Maybe you can create a dummy needle with fsx HDG linked to your HDG needle variable and you can have it all. I hope at list that you can give us an offset that can be driven by FSUIPC or maybe a switch. We are not going to see any Sperry 177, so at list it should be a a way to use external add-on. But It's not only add-on that are handicapped that bother me it's also the hardware.


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rob345 New Member Offline Posts: 1 Joined: Apr 7^th, 2012	Re: FSX default hdg to be used by a third party addon? Reply #11 - Apr 24^th, 2012 at 9:05pm	Print Post
	Maybe, I miss the point, but ... VasFMC is actually capable of steering the autopilot. Thus, the a/c follows a selected heading in HDG mode as well as an flightplan in LNAV. (But it's not driving the HSI heading bug.) I don't know if vasFMC uses some kind of other connection to the a/p than CIVA/ISG (I haven't tried them yet with the B732), but it seems that a third party addon can interact nevertheless.


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marvic Senior Member Offline Posts: 280 Location: Canada CYWG Joined: Mar 22^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: A way of allowing third party .... Reply #12 - Apr 24^th, 2012 at 10:16pm	Print Post
	Captain Sim wrote on Apr 24^th, 2012 at 4:23pm: The 737 A/P is a custom one with CWS. The fsx default hdg is taken by CWS. � If you wish the third party (CIVA etc) to use the default hdg we'll have to remove the CWS. What do you need more, the third party or the CWS? Please vote. CWS, CWS, CWS, CWS..........Ohhh, I forgot CWS. I would like to add that I do have a lot of flight sim gear too and it would be nice if we could all have what we want without taking away from anyone.

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bud7h7 Full Member Offline Posts: 107 Location: Miami, Florida USA Joined: Apr 3^rd, 2012 Gender:	Re: A way of allowing third party .... Reply #13 - Apr 25^th, 2012 at 12:00am	Print Post
	NaMcO wrote on Apr 24^th, 2012 at 4:26pm: I definitely want a real 737, so no CIVA for me thank you. Me too. Voted CWS.

	Bud Estrada i5 2500k @ 4.4 - p67 extreme4 - GTX580 - 16gb RAM - Windows 7/64 - FSX SP2
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Captain Sim CS Team Offline Posts: 4235 Joined: Nov 7^th, 2005	Re: FSX default hdg to be used by a third party addon? Reply #14 - Apr 25^th, 2012 at 12:07am	Print Post
	CoolP wrote on Apr 24^th, 2012 at 5:15pm: Selectable via ACE or switch in the cockpit. Fits both parties and, as the CWS is already in that plane and the FSX HDG mode is.. in FSX, not much work needed. � 2 autopilots it's too much �

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