yes, they added that on 0.6 or 0.7...

I'll never use it anyway ! Prefer to fly this bird like the real should be.

Cthulhus wrote on Apr 21^st, 2012 at 8:03am:

There wasn't anything about in in the csx737_manual2.pdf (dated 24 March 2012), only in the latest one. I did press a lot of buttons to see what would happen (functionality). If I did not see anything happen, I returned it to it's previous position and that would be why I didn't find it earlier.

I am enjoying flying the "old way", but I know that there are others who want to use GPS flight plans. Now they will know that they can do it.

Hey

will she now also follow the Civa Ins?? when i put the little switch into the up position?

Corina

Ok I got it if you craete a FP, in Vor loc autopilot it works.
But if you use external tool like  Vasfmc or INS there are no sign.
I also use Saitek multipanel and the HDG rotary dosen't work at all any hint?
The rest works fine.

simbiosi wrote on Apr 21^st, 2012 at 6:06pm:


Do you have a registered version of fsuipc as you might be able to get it working normally through that.

Paul

No luck with the Civa at any switch setting? Makes me wonder, because if the plane can follow the default GPS, it should work with the CIVA. 

thanks mark this is helpful

btscott wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2012 at 3:43pm:

Hi Bruce.

You will be happy to that it comes with the GPS already there for your use. SHIFT+6 and the GPS pops up onto the screen.
Select Direct To Waypoint on the GPS, or create an FS Flight Planner plan and it will follow it.

Mark

Corina Meyer wrote on Apr 21^st, 2012 at 8:53pm:

I was trying too, but I couldn't get the CIVA to drive the AP.  Here's a screenshot of the mod. http://www.captainsim.org/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1335036741/22#22

As stated somewhere else, maybe there's room for a mode switch like in the 707, to allow for the external stuff to work.

See simbiosi's post above. As long as the hdg mode stays custom, the chances are slim for the addon gauges to grab the bug.

Once again-- thanks, Mark. Good to hear!

Bruce

simbiosi wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2012 at 5:05pm:

Done

Hello,

I have a question about the gps navigation. I want to fly the 737-200 with the gps flight plan (loaded into fsx). What should I do step-by-step? I've tried to click almost everything in the flight deck associated with the navigation and I still don't know how can I fly this aircraft with automatic navigation (via autopilot). Like vasfmc. I would like to fly this beautiful jet in the vatsim, but I can't do it without navigation...  Please help me.

Bruce448 wrote on May 13^th, 2012 at 6:36pm:


Bruce and lukas:

Yes, we have tried adding CIVA INS. It's now confirmed that it will not work on this aircraft. Please take a look at:

http://www.captainsim.org/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1335036741/25#25

BTW, in a user-poll, CIVA INS lost out to the more realistic CWS control on this aircraft (since there is currently no way for a switchable mode).

http://www.captainsim.org/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1335210228/15#15

The plane can fly by GPS Navigation off a loaded FSX FPLN. Please look/search for "L16" in manual2, which is the NAV/GPS switch, and coupled with VORLOC setting (of the AP Mode Selector) will enable FPLN tracking.

Just above the (three) marker lamps, Tim. The label is wrong though, it doesn't read nav/gps switch. Perhaps that's the thing tricking you.

Am I correct that this feature works like the FSNavigator "fly flightplan" toggle? In other words it's not necessarily following a "GPS flightplan" but rather, following the loaded FSX flightplan, whether it was saved as Direct, VOR, or whatever.

If that's an accurate description, then I think it's innacurate to say that if you use this you are not navigating realistically. You can fly a perfectly realistic VOR or Hi Altitude airway flightplan and use this feature which is very handy when you want to step away from your PC for a time.

I don't see how letting the sim take over for a few minutes is any less realistic than pausing the sim  

Considering this is a pc simulation, and not everyone can sit at their pc for 4 hours at a time, I think it's very practical feature that all developers should include (most of them do) on classic non-FMC aircraft.

I see you quoted me, but did you actually read my post? To clarify, yes it's unrealistic to actually sit there and "fly" with this feature enabled. But to enable it so you can leave the pc while the aircraft stays on course should not be translated as flying a classic incorrectly. It simply allows you to leave the sim if you need to, rather than pause the flight.

A switch like this one was also on the DF 727 and other classics. It has nothing to do with making the aircraft GPS capable, and it doesn't have to be defined as an "aid" for less experienced simmers - I've been flying VOR/NDB in FS since 1999, and absolutely would not add a GPS to this aircraft.

Correct me if I'm wrong, since I haven't tried using it yet, but all this switch does is follow the flightplan, it is not adding a GPS to the aircraft! And if that's the case, then just because the aircraft is following the plan automatically does not equate with GPS navigation.

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That's absurd. I look at it this way. If I need to leave the cockpit, then the first officer has the aircraft. And this toggle switch is my first officer in that situation.
Have you ever flown heavy iron? It's perfectly realistic and common for a pilot / FO to step out of the flightdeck. And there's no pause switch in a real aircraft.

I also often leave the cockpit for a while and my "virtual FO" takes over from me. Now if that means that the GPS covers the gap for my pretending he is following the VOR to VOR route, then that's fine by me.

You need to remember that we all take the realism of FSX to whichever level we choose. So if we choose to use the GPS, real or not, we choose to use it. I choose to use it if I want to.

The way it works is fairly simple. It follows the plan waypoint to waypoint. It does not care whether those waypoints are VOR, NDB Intersections, Fixes or just a spot where we create a user waypoint on the map. So it follows whatever plan we load into the sim.

Mark

Yes it's a cheat, but I value being able to "set it and forget it."....The one thing that discourages me from being a real pilot, is hours of just sitting there...In flightsim, I can go out and do things while in cruise....this is a huge advantage...I understand why the switch isnt labled, it would kill the realism for people who want authenticity...I'm just glad it's there...what ticks me off is that the nav/gps did not respond to my key setting...so it took me until reading this post to find out where it was.