Very nice scenery in that add-on!

Flight, for what it is, gives a pretty good idea of what the outside world looks like, and as you so rightly point out...It's FREE!

I found the free plane a bit sloppy and wonder why they don't allow my throttle (G-940) to work???  
The stick and rudder work, but not the throttle.

Also, I tried to fly the Stearman, but after I went through the sign-in process it asked me for a product code???
I tried to contact their help but it kept me going in circles so I gave up.  

So for now, I still think FSX with CS planes & ORBX is pretty good.  

Lou

You can change the controls (Key Assignments) to suit yourself, just like you can in FSX.
I've see quite a lot of complaints about quite a few Flight controllers (MS Xbox-type controller should work fine though).
The setting null zones doesn't seem to be possible (I haven't looked so I'm going by what I've read from others).

@Lou. There is a fix for the Steerman problem. You need to "buy it". Don't worry. It's still FREE but you will then get a code to enter so you can use it).

As CoolP has stated, there are some really good things being said about the Hawaii Pack (with free? RV-6) and the Maule. The P-51D is an exterior only, from what I have heard. Even with all that, there are comments that there is something "lacking" in Flight (ATC, AI and road traffic). Not sure if these are going to be added at a later date.

Unfortunately for me, I'm bored with the Free one and I'm reluctant to purchase the Hawaai pack or the Maule (P-51D is not even under consideration).

Has anyone been able to reach the High Flying Glider Aerocache (without having bought the Hawaii pack or any other aircraft)? With the Steerman and the Icon A5 I am between 5 and 6 kilometers away from it when fly directly below it when I am flying at 14,000 - 15,800 feet and it is directly above me. This means that the Aerocache must be at about 35,000 feet which is well above the service ceiling of both aircraft, but is just below the service ceiling of the P-51D. This Aerocache is also listed as one of the Free Trial ones available, but is unreachable without buying at least the P-51D. The Maule has a service ceiling of 20,000 feet and the RF-6 has a service ceiling of about 25,000 feet so even those two should not be able to reach it.



So downloading and installing MS Flight, without buying any extras, is nothing more than a trial version and I am pretty bored with it already.

I start it up, go for a flight and five minutes later I'm bored again. I can't see having the Hawaii pack as making a difference. To buy the Hawaii pack and the Maule will cost about 35 USD (probably more than half the cost of FSX Gold).

Mark

I hit YOU all with this from someone who has inside knowledge - This is from Pete, the owner of the "Simivation", Flight Sim Web Site :         
I would be interested to know what Pete thinks as he was an insider for a while prior to release and got to see everything from the other side of the fence.

Matt


I'm a freak for freedom and control - ME controlling what I do. How can I enthuse about a game telling me what to do  .... on any level?


I have to say I started a mission just to see what it was like ..... seemed to get locked into that mission --- then found I could not slew ... I have NO interest in flying along a digital coastline - I got bored enough with that back in about 1986 when I 1st started to use FS and decided time to see how to make an aircraft and explore the world (which mostly didn't exist)


I'm about as seasoned a FS user as you will find on this planet. I had BAO Flightshop before MS bought it. I used to make airports that didn't exist. I started a FS website called Simviation. I have even designed a few aircraft.

& now we have Flight -- which is purely built as a GAME. There will be no world. There will be no user input. There will be no jets. (& PLEASE - speculators -- realise this. I have heard it from the team. Clearly stated: NO WORLD. NO OPEN INPUT. NO JETS. ) This is not a game I will be using. That's about it.

For me the big - BIG downer is closed structure - meaning the only input comes from a tiny few employed people who will throw out a Carenado payware prop once every month or 2 for users to buy if they want & again play around Hawaii. & that's it ..... It's no surprise that MS went this way but it IS  a great shame. Very few companies like open input from users -- but I really believe it's the best way forward. Look at Android. I believe that will win over Apple in the long term.


I've read the menu at the Flight restaurant. I'm walking on to find somewhere else to eat ...... FSX will do fine again.  They have a BIG menu, lots of potential .. and I like it there ....

And FSX is no game?   Did you read what e. g. CS says about FSX? 'It's just a game'. Shocking, but true.

I don't have a problem when folks copy over statements or even attitudes, but why not develop own ones?  
So head for the free flight and disable the flying aids in Flight and then come back and state that FSX is so much more 'realistic'. Seriously, I doubt that it is on e. g. the behaviour of the planes or even some sounds on the props. Maybe try the weather in that free sim or check out the better lighting too.

However, It could be that some people's ego needs that distraction between the 'oh so realistic' flying guy and the one just playing a game. I couldn't tell which one is better and I could hardly tell about their age too. Lack of a factual basis. So I'm of course surprised to see that other folks are able to tell it that clearly and convinced.  
Strange fact, both groups double click a Windows exe file and grab some plastic stick or yoke when flying. Then they stare at some flat screen and might very much just play a game. Not? Nothing wrong with that, but both cases aren't too close to real world flying, right?

So for the basics of flying, Flight may not be the enemy you want it to be, but maybe spot on. Some nice details are there and free, as e. g. Lou has shown. Downside is, you will have to pay extra for anything more. Now that game is called capitalism, but you didn't criticize that one so far. How come?  

Burce,

The beauty in my mind is that all these things can be something for everyone.

Take FSX for example. You can just start up the simulator and go fly, or you can plan a flight and do it in real time with real weather and have stuff break and try to keep it safe or you can explore various missions - it's all there. Not too much different in Flight. The stock plane that you start with is more like an ultralight, which I have lots of time in over the years. The way the plane flies reminds me of the way the engine power curve was and the spartan cockpit lends itself to a beginner pilot. I see this as something a novice pilot could actually use and maybe it could interest them enough to dig further into flight lessons. Who knows?

As for the cost, as CoolP pointed out, it's FREE! Good price in my book. If you want to move deeper into the program, what's wrong with paying for more? In the years I've played with the progressions of Flight Sim I wonder how much money I invested in this hobby. In FSX alone if I count the cost of the high end computer along with all the add-on software, I bet I could buy a small car - but so what, I enjoy it !

CoolP is correct - that method of sales is capitalism, and I am glad to pay something for something. CS in my mind is a good example. We all have put out a few Euros or Dollars and bought something we wanted. The value is in the enjoyment for me. I can't tell you how many times I've sat down at the computer and fired-up the CS 727 or 707 and just went for a ride. I think you get out of this what you put in. You don't want to learn to fly VOR to VOR, fine you don't have to, just enjoy it at your level. For others, it's not the actual flying but the learning about something in detail that turns them on - GREAT!

Here is another photo I found.



Tiananmen Square on my visit to China just before the Olympics.

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Hey, a quick question about Flight. I have no interest in downloading it--at least not until it improves (if ever), but I was wondering how immersive the Microsoft planes are. The default scenery is obviously better than FSX, but are the default planes?

I think I might want to try it out. It might get me back into Flight Simulators again. (I purchased FIFA 12. GO MAN UTD)