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727 Captain altitude hold pitch oscillation
Dec 31st, 2011 at 8:48pm
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Running FSX on a windows 7 computer.  On 727 Captain, both 727-100 and 727-200, autopilot is working fine in all modes but when I reach cruise altitude and engage the altitude hold, the airplane continuously makes minor pitch adjustments at a high rate frequency.  The pitch change isn't more than a degree or two, up and down.  Now this what the altitude hold should do in reality, but it's a jittery instantaneous change of pitch, not smooth and unnoticable like it should be.  The rate of climb gague needle can also be observed to respond to these jittry movements.  This goes away when the altitude hold is turned off and the descent is begun. I also have the 707 Captain and its altitude hold works fine.

Has anyone else had this problem? And has anyone found a fix for this?

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Re: 727 Captain altitude hold pitch oscillation
Reply #1 - Dec 31st, 2011 at 9:14pm
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Are you using the flight director?
  

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Re: 727 Captain altitude hold pitch oscillation
Reply #2 - Dec 31st, 2011 at 9:54pm
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Negative.  Does that fix it?
  
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Re: 727 Captain altitude hold pitch oscillation
Reply #3 - Dec 31st, 2011 at 10:52pm
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do you have FSX acceleration?
mine alt hold makes one oscilation and stabilize on altitude on what i engaged it.
  
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Re: 727 Captain altitude hold pitch oscillation
Reply #4 - Jan 1st, 2012 at 2:53am
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Yeah, I've got Accelleration, and I tried it also with Flight Director altitude hold on, and no change.  The oscillations occur over the course of about one second, and it's not a one secondpitch up oscillation followed immediately by a one second pitch down oscillation, time varies between the two.  I've got all the patches too, and this problem also occurred before I loaded acceleration.
  
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Re: 727 Captain altitude hold pitch oscillation
Reply #5 - Jan 1st, 2012 at 7:10am
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hmm...i got no idea then) i know bouncing needles, turbulence n wind gusts makes em jump n dance. but looks like that's not your case:)
  
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Re: 727 Captain altitude hold pitch oscillation
Reply #6 - Jan 1st, 2012 at 11:01am
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A couple of my planes were doing this the day before yesterday, but not yesterday.  I presumed it was winds/turbulence.

  


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Re: 727 Captain altitude hold pitch oscillation
Reply #7 - Jan 11th, 2012 at 4:39pm
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I had this issue with the Force Feedback Sidewinder. I had to adjust fine trim with the buttons on the joystick.  Once settled the ALT hold did just fine.
  
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Re: 727 Captain altitude hold pitch oscillation
Reply #8 - Jan 12th, 2012 at 11:26am
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I suffered this a lot until recently with various aircraft. Any kind of weather mode - other than windless "fair weather" would keep kicking the plane out of the altitude hold.  Problem was is was always downward such that it would bump up against a kind of invisible ceiling and essentially step descend all the way to the ground. Most annoying.

The solution was my Saitek X-52, which "auto calibrates" each time you reboot your PC, was incorrectly calibrating the stick each time the PC rebooted e.g. for MS updates etc because I had left the knob/slider I use to control pitch trim out of the neutral detent.  I make sure now before a reboot the pitch wheel is in the right place and no more alititude hold problems.
  
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Re: 727 Captain altitude hold pitch oscillation
Reply #9 - Jan 13th, 2012 at 9:39pm
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I would try disabling the effects of wind gusts and turbulence in FSUIPC or FSX settings. It seems to me it is the trim range settings for the B727-100/200 that are part of the problem, and then if it gets away it gets away. Now I don't suffer the problem, but I admit the real world flying simulation is compromised a bit.
  
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Re: 727 Captain altitude hold pitch oscillation
Reply #10 - Feb 20th, 2012 at 6:06pm
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I have this effect as well.  No all the time though.  I have found that if you disconnect the A/P and trim the aircraft level (or close) then re-engage the A/P it will fix the problem and stabilize at the correct ALT.  Not an ideal solution but it will work.
  
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