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BrianG Full Member Offline Posts: 205 Joined: Mar 10^th, 2011 Gender:	727-100 Static Thrust Sep 15^th, 2011 at 6:47am	Print Post
	Does anyone know what the real thrust was in the 727-100. My 727 seemed grossly under powered, many time unable to climb above FL300 with 120k TOW. I upped the thrust from 15,500 to 17,400 as I read this was the range in the real life 727. I want to keep the plane true to life as possible and can not verify that 17,400 was the ever even used. Does anyone know the answer to this? BTW, at 17,400 lbs. she handles like a dream.


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Markoz CS Team Offline Posts: 12445 Location: Victoria, Australia Joined: Apr 24^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: 727-100 Static Thrust Reply #1 - Sep 15^th, 2011 at 8:27am	Print Post
	The original 727-100 static thrust was 15500, as far as I know. I have stuck with that in the -100. But in the -200, I do use 17400, because it get is much worse than the -100 if I use 15500. Mark

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BrianG Full Member Offline Posts: 205 Joined: Mar 10^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: 727-100 Static Thrust Reply #2 - Sep 15^th, 2011 at 7:21pm	Print Post
	Thanks Mark. Did you change the thrust specific fuel consumption or fuel flow gain when you added the additional thrust? It's amazing the difference 1900 lbs. of thrust makes.


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CoolP Senior Member Offline Posts: 2568 Joined: Jan 17^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: 727-100 Static Thrust Reply #3 - Sep 16^th, 2011 at 3:48am	Print Post
	BrianG wrote on Sep 15^th, 2011 at 7:21pm: It's amazing the difference 1900 lbs. of thrust makes. Add another zero and you're the first supersonic 727.


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Markoz CS Team Offline Posts: 12445 Location: Victoria, Australia Joined: Apr 24^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: 727-100 Static Thrust Reply #4 - Sep 16^th, 2011 at 8:49am	Print Post
	BrianG wrote on Sep 15^th, 2011 at 7:21pm: Thanks Mark. Did you change the thrust specific fuel consumption or fuel flow gain when you added the additional thrust? It's amazing the difference 1900 lbs. of thrust makes. Nope. I just increased the thrust. Once I start playing with the fuel consumption, I wreak havoc on the planes performance! CoolP wrote on Sep 16^th, 2011 at 3:48am: BrianG wrote on Sep 15^th, 2011 at 7:21pm: It's amazing the difference 1900 lbs. of thrust makes. Add another zero and you're the first supersonic 727. You need to get the Supersonic Concorde out of you head!

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CoolP Senior Member Offline Posts: 2568 Joined: Jan 17^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: 727-100 Static Thrust Reply #5 - Sep 16^th, 2011 at 10:32am	Print Post
	Quote: You need to get the Supersonic Concorde out of you head! I can't! Looking for an alternative now and a supersonic 727 looks nice.


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Markoz CS Team Offline Posts: 12445 Location: Victoria, Australia Joined: Apr 24^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: 727-100 Static Thrust Reply #6 - Sep 16^th, 2011 at 11:04am	Print Post
	CoolP wrote on Sep 16^th, 2011 at 10:32am: Looking for an alternative now and a supersonic 727 looks nice. � Now that, I must say, does sound kinda fun! We should try it just for laughs!

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CoolP Senior Member Offline Posts: 2568 Joined: Jan 17^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: 727-100 Static Thrust Reply #7 - Sep 16^th, 2011 at 11:52am	Print Post
	Awaiting screenshots at 70.000ft. � That thrust should also help a bit on short fields.


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BrianG Full Member Offline Posts: 205 Joined: Mar 10^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: 727-100 Static Thrust Reply #8 - Sep 16^th, 2011 at 4:31pm	Print Post
	I'm always up for fun and adventure. I'll give it a try and report back, unless my plane disintegrates first.


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Markoz CS Team Offline Posts: 12445 Location: Victoria, Australia Joined: Apr 24^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: 727-100 Static Thrust Reply #9 - Sep 16^th, 2011 at 6:27pm	Print Post
	I tried it with 155,000 lbs of thrust. It's a rocket ship and overspeeds with the throttle on idle when in level flight! I went to 60,000 feet!

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Pinatubo Senior Member Offline Posts: 486 Location: Rio de Janeiro Brazil Joined: Apr 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: 727-100 Static Thrust Reply #10 - Sep 17^th, 2011 at 12:03am	Print Post
	Markoz wrote on Sep 16^th, 2011 at 6:27pm: I tried it with 155,000 lbs of thrust. It's a rocket ship and overspeeds with the throttle on idle when in level flight! I went to 60,000 feet! I remember seeing your memorable flight test. Three turbines Pratt & Whitney JT8D-155000 taking off at Mach 2 and the fuselage and wings of a wrecked B727X, still stopped on the runway, surrounded by fire, smoke and sparks. It was an awesome flight. ...or most probable a nightmare!!!

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Markoz CS Team Offline Posts: 12445 Location: Victoria, Australia Joined: Apr 24^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: 727-100 Static Thrust Reply #11 - Sep 17^th, 2011 at 2:30am	Print Post
	What was really funny when I did the first super flight, was I got so fast (speed) so fast (time) that after I took off I couldn't raise the gear because I was way past the VLO and had wrecked them! There I was at FL500 with my gear still down. I was still flying at 300+KIAS. The next flight was the one I mentioned above! Mark

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BrianG Full Member Offline Posts: 205 Joined: Mar 10^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: 727-100 Static Thrust Reply #12 - Sep 17^th, 2011 at 4:41am	Print Post
	I'll put 155,000 in mine and the next time the Vatsim controllers comment of my lack of climb performance I'll let them have it.


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Markoz CS Team Offline Posts: 12445 Location: Victoria, Australia Joined: Apr 24^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: 727-100 Static Thrust Reply #13 - Sep 17^th, 2011 at 6:19am	Print Post
	BrianG wrote on Sep 17^th, 2011 at 4:41am: I'll put 155,000 in mine and the next time the Vatsim controllers comment of my lack of climb performance I'll let them have it. � You might be in for a surprise then. When I set my thrust to 155,000, as soon as I released the parking brake, she started heading off in a big hurry! With my throttles still in the stop position!

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CoolP Senior Member Offline Posts: 2568 Joined: Jan 17^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: 727-100 Static Thrust Reply #14 - Sep 17^th, 2011 at 7:19am	Print Post
	Lol, you guys are nuts! � While you actually are, does the change also affect the reverse thrust?


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