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FPS Still Steadily Dropping
Sep 5th, 2011 at 11:59pm
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I'm still starting out flights with great fps, which steadily drops as time goes on. What could be causing this?

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Re: FPS Still Steadily Dropping
Reply #1 - Sep 6th, 2011 at 2:41am
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I'm not sure what your system is, but you can see my set-up below.

Here are a few screen captures of my FSX.

This on final RW 31R at KJFK in the CS 737. I get just about the same in the 727 and 707. Even when I fly in the Orbx NA Blue the rates are always above mid 40's. Only place I get slow FPS are in KSEA and even then it stays around mid 20's.

Weather selected GRAY & RAINY.

You can see three AI planes, one landing and two waiting to takeoff. The FPS is around 50.



As for settings...

Aircraft - Ultra High, High Res Cockpit, Cast shadows - checked, and show landing lights - checked.
Weather - Detailed clouds, density max
Traffic - Planes 50% Ground 15% Ships 0%





I used the Bojote's tweak and it seemed to help.

Hope this helps,
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Re: FPS Still Steadily Dropping
Reply #2 - Sep 6th, 2011 at 4:37am
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Sorry, it's not that I'm just getting bad frame rates, it's that I start out with reasonable frame rates, which then drop steadily--I want to know why they start good and go downhill. In addition, you're getting frame rates around 45, I get around 20, which is because of my mediocre graphics card, which is dragging the rest of the system down with it. You can see my specs at the bottom of my signature banner (under the planes).
  

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Re: FPS Still Steadily Dropping
Reply #3 - Sep 6th, 2011 at 10:17am
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Ok lets try some possibles.

Virus checker, have you excluded the FSX folders from being scanned by your virus checker? If it's loading up something (an airport addon) it might be scanning it as it loads up, as with all new scenery?

Overheating graphics card or CPU under load? - Check for dust build up in the fans and heatsink.

Ummmmm are you flying the same routes when it happens or any route?

When was the first time you noticed this and what have you installed since? Tricky one to think of I know.

Have you updated your graphics drivers, reinstalled drivers like DirectX recently, if not do.

Are you running FSX Acceleration? I am and had problems with FS Water Config, until I put the disc in and did a repair, it seemed to do a lot of repairing and my system is now fine FSWC is perfect.

Perhaps if you have the disc space Copy your entire FSX folder (everything) install to a backup folder and put the FSX disc and acceleration disc if you have it in and run repair. If it works good, delete the backup. If it messes up (which really it shouldn't) delete and move your backup across.

Other than that I can't think of anything else at the moment.



Ps. I have a very similar system to your's but have an Ati 5870 1GB HD card and I get higher fps from the start. Could you do some screenshots of your settings like Lous has above.

These are mine (I'm also using REX+OD for weather, UT2 for air traffic and FSWC for water).






All card settings to "use application settings".

The only thing that I think should be changed on mine is the "unlimited" FPS target frame rate, I think I used to have that set to lower (recommended) but might have accidentally changed it to unlimited. In fact seeing it I have just changed it to 35 and reposted the image above as I believe it frees up FSX for other things I think, plus 35 is a good rate the eye won't pick up anything faster anyway, only changes and if you set it lower than you think it can go there shouldn't be any noticeable slow ups.

And then remembering to rest the following lines in the FSX.cfg after making any in game display setting change or scenery change Smiley

[GRAPHICS]
TEXTURE_MAX_LOAD=4096 (defaults to 1024 when settings changed in game)

[TERRAIN]
LOD RADIUS=4.5000000 (default) change up to 7.50000
(gets reset to 4.5 when scenery is added or removed)
  

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Re: FPS Still Steadily Dropping
Reply #4 - Sep 6th, 2011 at 11:26am
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I start out with reasonable frame rates, which then drop steadily

And does this happen with the AI on and also completely off?
  
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Re: FPS Still Steadily Dropping
Reply #5 - Sep 7th, 2011 at 4:30am
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And does this happen with the AI on and also completely off?

I suspect AI could be the problem, so I'll have to try that when I have time.

Oh, where can I download the latest DirectX driver?

The only thing that I think should be changed on mine is the "unlimited" FPS target frame rate, I think I used to have that set to lower (recommended) but might have accidentally changed it to unlimited. In fact seeing it I have just changed it to 35 and reposted the image above as I believe it frees up FSX for other things I think, plus 35 is a good rate the eye won't pick up anything faster anyway, only changes and if you set it lower than you think it can go there shouldn't be any noticeable slow ups.

Actually, I'm using an external FPS limiter with FPS set to 20.
  

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Re: FPS Still Steadily Dropping
Reply #6 - Sep 7th, 2011 at 4:37am
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Here's DirectX. http://www.microsoft.com/download/en/details.aspx?id=8109
Smartass note. It's not a driver.

Hey, I've just clicked your blog and must say that it's good work and interesting to read.  Smiley
  
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Re: FPS Still Steadily Dropping
Reply #7 - Sep 7th, 2011 at 5:11am
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Thanks! Glad to hear you like the blog--I was worried it might be a little bland.
  

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Re: FPS Still Steadily Dropping
Reply #8 - Sep 7th, 2011 at 1:11pm
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One more time --- you're in the wrong forum for hardware and settings advice! Start reading the AVSIM Hardware forum.

The all time guru for os and hardware setup is Nick Needham. Here is his setup guide for XP (see link for Win7 guide):

http://www.simforums.com/forums/topic29041.html
  
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Re: FPS Still Steadily Dropping
Reply #9 - Sep 7th, 2011 at 2:49pm
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Do you use woAI? I have UT2, a friend got it for me, but now I want world of AI, because UT2 has low amounts of AI.   And also I have good frames, and it's a 2GB of RAM computer!  I don't know you're problem though.....
  

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Re: FPS Still Steadily Dropping
Reply #10 - Sep 8th, 2011 at 3:13am
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One more time --- you're in the wrong forum for hardware and settings advice! Start reading the AVSIM Hardware forum.
I've posted in the Avsim hardware forum, but it can't hurt to ask here, too. I've gotten some good advice.

Do you use woAI? I have UT2, a friend got it for me, but now I want world of AI, because UT2 has low amounts of AI.   And also I have good frames, and it's a 2GB of RAM computer!  I don't know you're problem though.....
For whatever reason, WoAI did not work well on my computer--I think it was the FS9 .bgl files screwing with my system.  Undecided
  

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Reply #11 - Sep 9th, 2011 at 6:54pm
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I would reccomend the UT2 to anyone. The traffic isn't THAT high, but is still acceptable. really good buy.
  

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Re: FPS Still Steadily Dropping
Reply #12 - Sep 9th, 2011 at 8:32pm
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StephenL wrote on Sep 9th, 2011 at 6:54pm:
I would reccomend the UT2 to anyone. The traffic isn't THAT high, but is still acceptable. really good buy.

I'd recommend it too. Best fps to density ratio as far as I can tell and you can get really current flight plans there or set up your own with the free tools.
Also, you have a 30 day test period since the money back policy is in place.

For the free traffic, I can recommend the Orbx package if you're looking for local carriers at Australia and also some dense GA setup. That thing also is a tip if you need some nice models for your online VIP database.
  
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Re: FPS Still Steadily Dropping
Reply #13 - Sep 9th, 2011 at 11:17pm
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I asked about AI Traffic on the avsim forums. The generally response was that UT2 was the best.
  

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Reply #14 - Sep 10th, 2011 at 6:41pm
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just a side note..

Have you checked for heat issues as the i7 will throttle down if it gets to hot. As you have a pre built PC the cooling might not be that great.
  

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