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David Paul Senior Member Offline Posts: 270 Joined: Dec 25^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: A/P does not work Reply #15 - Jul 9^th, 2011 at 10:00am	Print Post
	Not to repeat myself, but the problem here is that he doesn't have Acceleration. You guys for whom it works fine must already have Acceleration. Nothing will fix this except installing Acceleration. The OP can download the Captain Sim "fix" and try it, but he will almost certainly get the wildly thrashing yoke problem.

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Ed Callan Full Member Offline Posts: 19 Joined: Dec 27^th, 2010	Re: A/P does not work Reply #16 - Jul 9^th, 2011 at 1:37pm	Print Post
	Lou and Mark, thanx for the help. Ill try a reinstall Ed


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Ed Callan Full Member Offline Posts: 19 Joined: Dec 27^th, 2010	Re: A/P does not work Reply #17 - Jul 9^th, 2011 at 6:01pm	Print Post
	David, �So your saying that I need acceleration to run ver 2.4 b727-100 and 200? �Because b727-100 ver 2.2 runs fine and I get no yoke problem in either version ....thanx Ed


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Ed Callan Full Member Offline Posts: 19 Joined: Dec 27^th, 2010	Re: A/P does not work Reply #18 - Jul 9^th, 2011 at 6:06pm	Print Post
	Lou and Mark, i did the uninstall and resinstall. I did the uninstall again . then b727-100 ver 2.2 then b727-100 ver 2.4 upgrade then 727-200 ver 2.4 expansion pack and still did no work...thanx for help Ed


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ramjet New Member Offline Posts: 2 Joined: Jul 7^th, 2011	Re: A/P does not work Reply #19 - Jul 9^th, 2011 at 6:54pm	Print Post
	Hi Simmers, New to the 727 crew. I've been looking at this forum for tips and you have helped me. I found a main battery switch at the top of the Flight Engineer panel and I read a post about using Shift+m to activate avionics. They worked and I got the plane started and all the gauges working, I made my plan, got approval, taxied and took off. Once airborne I brought up the 2d AP popup and when I reached cruising alt I tried to set Alt hold and Heading hold. No luck. I saw a tutorial video on youtube on using the A/P and that you needed to engage the Ail and Elev holds after you are at alt and wings are level and so I did. Then I hit ALt hold and it worked great. I then made sure my heading bug was correct and I hit Heading hold, it also worked well. To turn I deactivated the Ail hold so I could turn and deselected Alt hold so I could rise or fall. I know I have lots to learn but had fun with what I did and I got to my destination. I hope my experience will help someone else figure out how they can use the A/P. I should add I am using Win7x64, i5, GTX 285 FSX gold, good flights, Cal


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David Paul Senior Member Offline Posts: 270 Joined: Dec 25^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: A/P does not work Reply #20 - Jul 9^th, 2011 at 8:17pm	Print Post
	Ed Callan wrote on Jul 9^th, 2011 at 6:01pm: David, �So your saying that I need acceleration to run ver 2.4 b727-100 and 200? �Because b727-100 ver 2.2 runs fine and I get no yoke problem in either version �....thanx Ed You need Acceleration in order for the autopilot pitch control to work properly with the version 2.4 planes. I'll bet you everyone on the forum who reports that it "works fine for them" is running Acceleration. You can try to download the CS fix for it, but on my system and those of several other forum members, it causes the yoke to wildly yank back and forth like crazy. Oh sure, the autopilot pitch control will at least do SOMETHING, but it won't work like it should.

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Ed Callan Full Member Offline Posts: 19 Joined: Dec 27^th, 2010	Re: A/P does not work Reply #21 - Jul 9^th, 2011 at 8:27pm	Print Post
	I checked the sys req and it sez fsx sp2 or acceleration is needed.....fyi Ed


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Ed Callan Full Member Offline Posts: 19 Joined: Dec 27^th, 2010	Re: A/P does not work Reply #22 - Jul 9^th, 2011 at 10:04pm	Print Post
	David, Where is and what is the fix your're talking about Ed


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David Paul Senior Member Offline Posts: 270 Joined: Dec 25^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: A/P does not work Reply #23 - Jul 9^th, 2011 at 10:42pm	Print Post
	Ed Callan wrote on Jul 9^th, 2011 at 10:04pm: David, �Where is and what is the fix your're talking about Ed I posted the link to the file in reply #10 to this thread. But here's the link to the Knowledge Base entry for this issue here : http://www.captainsim.com/cgi-bin/kb.pl?qid=4897 Maybe it will work for you. It caused my yoke to thrash back and forth wildly with any change in pitch using the AP, which I'm sure is not what the real aircraft does.

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Ed Callan Full Member Offline Posts: 19 Joined: Dec 27^th, 2010	Re: A/P does not work Reply #24 - Jul 9^th, 2011 at 11:08pm	Print Post
	David and all who have contributed so far, After browsing other forums and various googles, Im thinking it may be a prob with my OS. I have win 7 32 bit and from what Ive been reading it may not be compatible with fsx acel or ver 2.4 I am currently running b727-100 FSX and i have no probles with the AP pitch/turn controller. I have noticed tho that when i click on the pitch/turn controller I get a tool tip that reads "autopilot turn and pitch controller(up pitch)" etc and for turns "autopilot turn and pitch controller (left bank)"etc. However when I run ver 2.4(in both 727-100/727-200) I get a tool tip that reads a certain number of degrees of pitch which does not change when i try to adjust the pitch. Hope this helps Ed


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Ed Callan Full Member Offline Posts: 19 Joined: Dec 27^th, 2010	Re: A/P does not work Reply #25 - Jul 9^th, 2011 at 11:39pm	Print Post
	David, I tried that link and there was no difference to what I have to do as follows.....est a positive rate with elev paddle down when i get the climb rate I want using the the yoke trim, I move the evev paddle up and the ap seems to hold that climb rate ok...so there u go Ed


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Markoz CS Team Offline Posts: 12445 Location: Victoria, Australia Joined: Apr 24^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: A/P does not work Reply #26 - Jul 10^th, 2011 at 1:51am	Print Post
	Ed Callan wrote on Jul 9^th, 2011 at 11:08pm: After browsing other forums and various googles, Im thinking it may be a prob with my OS. � I have win 7 32 bit and from what Ive been reading it may not be compatible with fsx acel or ver 2.4 I have Windows 7 64bit and FSX and Acceleration performs beautifully on it. So do ALL the Captain Sim FSX add-ons (yes, I have them all). So I wouldn't blame the OS. I would say that it is like what David said, you need the Acceleration Pack to get it working correctly. Mark

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Ed Callan Full Member Offline Posts: 19 Joined: Dec 27^th, 2010	Re: A/P does not work Reply #27 - Jul 10^th, 2011 at 3:25am	Print Post
	Mark Ok Ill check into that and see what happens ...... thanx for all you help Ed


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Markoz CS Team Offline Posts: 12445 Location: Victoria, Australia Joined: Apr 24^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: A/P does not work Reply #28 - Jul 10^th, 2011 at 3:39am	Print Post
	Hi Ed. As long as you are installing them using the "Run as administrator" option, the installation and use of the 727-100/200 should be fine. When you consider that David has said (twice) that he solved this problem by buying and installing Acceleration. I think that he has a very valid point. I have FSX Deluxe and Acceleration and I have never had this problem. I will admit that the A/P in 2.4 is not quite as good easy to use as v2.2 or v2.3, but once I got used to it, it works very well. I guess if you look around, you can find FSX Gold Edition (FSX Deluxe and Acceleration in the one box) cheaply. It could be the way to go. Because MS don't sell FSX Deluxe and Acceleration separately anymore, then you'll have to get the Gold Edition. UNLESS you can buy a copy of Acceleration at an online auction site (like eBay). Mark

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