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Ed Callan Full Member Offline Posts: 19 Joined: Dec 27^th, 2010	A/P does not work Jul 6^th, 2011 at 3:51am	Print Post
	Hello All, I just bought the 727-200 expansion pack(fsx) I already have the 727-100 basic. �The A/P does not work at all. �all other functions appear to be ok. My 727-100 works fine. I have uninstalled an reinstalled a couple of times but the AP does not work.... �Am I missing a switch? Thanx Ed Callan


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boeing247 Senior Member Offline Pilots: Looking down on people since 1903 Posts: 1506 Location: Southern CA Joined: Feb 23^rd, 2011 Gender:	Re: A/P does not work Reply #1 - Jul 6^th, 2011 at 4:23am	Print Post
	How are you using the autopilot? What's your process?

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Markoz CS Team Offline Posts: 12445 Location: Victoria, Australia Joined: Apr 24^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: A/P does not work Reply #2 - Jul 6^th, 2011 at 9:00am	Print Post
	Are you sure that they are all the same version? The latest version for the 727's is v2.4. You 727-100 Base Pack might be a different version, like 2.2 or 2.3. To get the latest 727-100 Base Pack version, Check-in to Your Profile > Select product > Extended Download Service > Get New Links Mark

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Ed Callan Full Member Offline Posts: 19 Joined: Dec 27^th, 2010	Re: A/P does not work Reply #3 - Jul 6^th, 2011 at 1:32pm	Print Post
	Markoz, That was it thanx now I have to relearn how to use the AP Ed C


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Markoz CS Team Offline Posts: 12445 Location: Victoria, Australia Joined: Apr 24^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: A/P does not work Reply #4 - Jul 6^th, 2011 at 5:04pm	Print Post
	Great to hear that it is working!!! Happy flying!

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Ed Callan Full Member Offline Posts: 19 Joined: Dec 27^th, 2010	More AP Problems Reply #5 - Jul 7^th, 2011 at 1:45pm	Print Post
	Hello All, After installing v2.4 for both 727-100 and 727-200 exp pack, I noticed that when using the pitch controller for climb and descent there is no vertical control. I turn off alt hold in level flight and try to adjust vs but there is no response. Also when i uninstalled the b727-100 I lost a virtual cockpit mod that kept the AP from floating, does anyone know where i can find this thanx EC


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Markoz CS Team Offline Posts: 12445 Location: Victoria, Australia Joined: Apr 24^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: A/P does not work Reply #6 - Jul 8^th, 2011 at 3:57am	Print Post
	When you turn the A/P ON, are you turning ON both the Autopilot Aileron Switch and the Autopilot Elevator Switch? Or just the Autopilot Aileron Switch? When I'm using the A/P to control the climb, I use the Autopilot Turn And Pitch Controller to adjust the rate of climb or descent (I don't use it don't turn control). I don't know of, nor where to find, the mod you refer to. Sorry. Mark

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David Paul Senior Member Offline Posts: 270 Joined: Dec 25^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: More AP Problems Reply #7 - Jul 8^th, 2011 at 10:16am	Print Post
	Ed Callan wrote on Jul 7^th, 2011 at 1:45pm: Hello All, After installing v2.4 for both 727-100 and 727-200 exp pack, �I noticed that when using the pitch controller for climb and descent there is no vertical control. �I turn off alt hold in level flight and try to adjust vs but there is no response. �Also �when i uninstalled the b727-100 I lost a virtual cockpit mod that kept the AP from floating, does anyone know where i can find this thanx EC What version of FSX are you running? On my setup, the autopilot pitch control did not work until I purchased and installed FSX Acceleration. This issue is documented. Captain Sim put out a downloadable "fix" that did not work for me. It caused the yoke to thrash wildly back and forth.

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Ed Callan Full Member Offline Posts: 19 Joined: Dec 27^th, 2010	Re: A/P does not work Reply #8 - Jul 8^th, 2011 at 1:43pm	Print Post
	Mark, �After t/o I establish a positive climb rate.....then I activate ail and elev switches then hdg select...I use the ap turn and switch controller during climb also.....My problem is after leveling off and I want to climb or descend the ap turn and switch does not work I get no pitch movement either up or down when I click on the pitch controller....I have to use the trim on the yoke....this is when i use ver 2.4....when i use ver 2.2 on the 727-100 there are no problems thanx Ed


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Ed Callan Full Member Offline Posts: 19 Joined: Dec 27^th, 2010	Re: A/P does not work Reply #9 - Jul 8^th, 2011 at 1:46pm	Print Post
	David, I am using fsx sp2 and all is fine expet when I use ver 2.4.....do u know where I can find the cockpit mod? thanx Ed


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David Paul Senior Member Offline Posts: 270 Joined: Dec 25^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: A/P does not work Reply #10 - Jul 8^th, 2011 at 5:35pm	Print Post
	Here is the download that is supposed to fix the AP pitch control. http://www.captainsim.org/tools/x727/sp2/Captain_Sim.p721.sys.gau Let us know if it works for you.

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LOU Beta Team Offline 727,707,747,757,767= 40years of Boeings Posts: 1609 Location: Central PA, USA Joined: Mar 3^rd, 2010 Gender:	Re: A/P does not work Reply #11 - Jul 8^th, 2011 at 8:51pm	Print Post
	In the above picture by Mark, the turn knob has two functions, pitch & roll. I'm telling you this not knowing if this is what you are doing or if you have tried it, so please forgive me if you have done this already. If you mouse click on the area of the number 2 in the photo, you will get the autopilot to trim the nose UP. If you just click once or twice you will get very small movements of the trim. If on the other hand you hold the mouse button down, you will see a lot of movement of the pitch. This was not my favorite autopilot, but if you made small movements of the knob in pitch, it would do an OK job. Some of the pilots would use just the AIL paddle to control heading and just use the autopilot trim on the center console marked CRUISE TRIM. If you are still having problems, let us know and we'll try something else. Lou

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Ed Callan Full Member Offline Posts: 19 Joined: Dec 27^th, 2010	Re: A/P does not work Reply #12 - Jul 8^th, 2011 at 11:06pm	Print Post
	Lou, Ok thanx for the reply....I know how to use that AP as I have used it many times in the 727-100(FSX) v2.2 basic. the problem I have now is that when I upgrade to v2.4 in both the 727-100 and the 727-200 expansion pack, it works fine during climb out to when I level. After I level and wish to climb or descend, I switch off alt hold and click on the pitch/turn controller to est a des or clm. I get no response from the aircraft and wind up using the trim on the yoke. Now i know there is the stab cruise trim which offers fine adjustments but it is a pain to keep bouncing back and forth on or to open another window on the screen. I would definitely prefer to use the pitch/turn controller instead thanx Ed


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LOU Beta Team Offline 727,707,747,757,767= 40years of Boeings Posts: 1609 Location: Central PA, USA Joined: Mar 3^rd, 2010 Gender:	Re: A/P does not work Reply #13 - Jul 9^th, 2011 at 2:28am	Print Post
	Ed, sorry you are having trouble. I have only the 727-100 v2.4 and have no problems with the autopilot. Mark is the re-load guru so maybe he can find a fix. Lou

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Markoz CS Team Offline Posts: 12445 Location: Victoria, Australia Joined: Apr 24^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: A/P does not work Reply #14 - Jul 9^th, 2011 at 5:35am	Print Post
	After I level and wish to climb or descend, I switch off alt hold and click on the pitch/turn controller to est a des or clm. I get no response from the aircraft and wind up using the trim on the yoke. The only time I have that happen is if I turn off the ELEV paddle on the A/P. Maybe you need to do a reinstall/repair. Run the 727-100 installer, select repair, then do the same for the 727-200. Mark

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