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btscott Senior Member Offline Posts: 458 Joined: Dec 26^th, 2009	My First Flight in the 707 Jun 30^th, 2011 at 1:05pm	Print Post
	I took off from STL and headed north. I was just trying to figure out the auto pilot--- not really going anywhere in particular. About 170 miles from MKE I decided to file an IFR plan to MKE. ATC vectored me to 040 to intercept the ILS for 1L. Almost too late I figured out, by watching the GPS - heh, heh, that 040 was not going to get the job done, so I disengaged the AP and tried to salvage the landing. I ended up too high and should have gone around, but I hate to do that -- it's so time consuming. Now they'll probably send me back to the ticket counter! � http://vimeo.com/25784385 Bruce


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Markoz CS Team Offline Posts: 12445 Location: Victoria, Australia Joined: Apr 24^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: My First Flight in the 707 Reply #1 - Jun 30^th, 2011 at 3:11pm	Print Post
	Hi Bruce. Luckily for you and your passengers, this is Flight Sim and you can get away with doing that. I understand how you feel about doing a go around, I feel the same way. But if we really need to go around, then we should. Other than the too steep and too fast approach, it wasn't too bad at all. I'm just glad I wasn't one your passengers! Mark

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btscott Senior Member Offline Posts: 458 Joined: Dec 26^th, 2009	Re: My First Flight in the 707 Reply #2 - Jun 30^th, 2011 at 5:10pm	Print Post
	But Mark, I get a bonus for every on time arrival!! Bruce


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LOU Beta Team Offline 727,707,747,757,767= 40years of Boeings Posts: 1609 Location: Central PA, USA Joined: Mar 3^rd, 2010 Gender:	Re: My First Flight in the 707 Reply #3 - Jun 30^th, 2011 at 6:44pm	Print Post
	Bruce, I need a double - extra strong amber drink after that approach! � Mark is right, never try to salvage a bad approach. At 200 feet you were doing 2,000 feet per minute. You should have gotten WHOOP, WHOOP - PULL UP! Of course I'm just nit-picken, but I sure need that drink. Also, FYI never retract flaps or move anything while still on the runway. This was an old pilot rule so you did not move the wrong leaver and maybe retract the gear by mistake. We would always clear the runway and talk to ATC - and then we could clean-up the cockpit. Lou

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btscott Senior Member Offline Posts: 458 Joined: Dec 26^th, 2009	Re: My First Flight in the 707 Reply #4 - Jun 30^th, 2011 at 7:18pm	Print Post
	Lou ---- Of course Mark is correct!! But, as I said a missed approach adds a half hour to the flight, and it seems they always happen just about Amber Hour! What was it your buddy Hoot Gibson said ---- They paid for a ride --- they got it! Oh yes, I took those annoying Pull Up and Don't Sink warnings out of the FSX sound folder! Haven't heard them in months! � Thanks for the tip on cleaning up after the runway exit! I'll remember that! Am going to try to get from LAX to HNL next in PAA Clipper Northern Light. Back in the 60s flt PA 819 was a flt we used frequently ex LAX (get it--- exlax) as it allowed for a reasonable DEN LAX connex. Let's see ---- that was a double, right?! � Bruce


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Markoz CS Team Offline Posts: 12445 Location: Victoria, Australia Joined: Apr 24^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: My First Flight in the 707 Reply #5 - Jul 1^st, 2011 at 2:45am	Print Post
	LOU wrote on Jun 30^th, 2011 at 6:44pm: Also, FYI never retract flaps or move anything while still on the runway. This was an old pilot rule so you did not move the wrong leaver and maybe retract the gear by mistake. We would always clear the runway and talk to ATC - and then we could clean-up the cockpit. Oops. Even I raise the flaps and lower the spoiler while still on the runway. Not anymore though. Thanks Lou. Mark

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Colvale Senior Member Offline Posts: 253 Joined: Jun 23^rd, 2011 Gender:	Re: My First Flight in the 707 Reply #6 - Jul 1^st, 2011 at 11:21am	Print Post
	Ditto here.Everyday you live and learn. Thanks Lou.


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Mric29 Full Member Offline Posts: 118 Location: France Joined: Sep 14^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: My First Flight in the 707 Reply #7 - Jul 1^st, 2011 at 4:29pm	Print Post
	Nice Video btscott ! Your first landing looks like a career landing ! Next time active crash and try a kiss landing...


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btscott Senior Member Offline Posts: 458 Joined: Dec 26^th, 2009	Re: My First Flight in the 707 Reply #8 - Jul 2^nd, 2011 at 3:40am	Print Post
	Well, you know the old saying---- any time you can walk away from a landing ----- � Btw, I edited out all the really bad stuff! Bruce


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Markoz CS Team Offline Posts: 12445 Location: Victoria, Australia Joined: Apr 24^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: My First Flight in the 707 Reply #9 - Jul 2^nd, 2011 at 6:30am	Print Post
	Well, you know the old saying---- any time you can walk away from a landing I thought the saying was "Any landing you walk away from, is a good landing". Your saying is similar. Btw, I edited out all the really bad stuff! I would do that too. We really don't want to show others just how bad we can be. Mark

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