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wigerup Full Member Offline Posts: 50 Joined: Dec 4^th, 2007	Something wrong with my pitch?? Jun 20^th, 2011 at 2:37pm	Print Post
	I do not know if I do something wrong here, when I try to decrase my pitch. T/O and climb out. Autopilot set no Manual. Retract flaps. At 5000 feet activate Aileron and Elevator switch on Autopanel at 1500f/m, pitch is now 9.0. At 10000 feet try to decrease my ptitch down to 7.0 degr via the upper pitch knob on autopanel, but it only increase, what ever I do. What am I doing wrong???? pls help me....... Regards Bjorn


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ottoramsaig Full Member Offline An earth bound misfit I........ Posts: 138 Location: Barnegat, New Jersey. USA Joined: Jan 3^rd, 2011 Gender:	Re: Something wrong with my pitch?? Reply #1 - Jun 20^th, 2011 at 9:32pm	Print Post
	This happens to me if I get carried away with the pitch controls on my joystick. �I have to null the pitch out to zero climb or decend and then its possible to use the pitch control on the AP. I should mention that I have the Forcefeedback 2 and it has two buttons either side of my hat switch. They were automatically assigned by the sim.


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wigerup Full Member Offline Posts: 50 Joined: Dec 4^th, 2007	Re: Something wrong with my pitch?? Reply #2 - Jun 21^st, 2011 at 7:09pm	Print Post
	Thanks for the tip, I will try that. I have the same forcefeedback 2 as you!!! Regards Bjorn


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LOU Beta Team Offline 727,707,747,757,767= 40years of Boeings Posts: 1609 Location: Central PA, USA Joined: Mar 3^rd, 2010 Gender:	Re: Something wrong with my pitch?? Reply #3 - Jun 22^nd, 2011 at 2:52am	Print Post
	The pitch trim using the joystick is VERY sensitive and moves much too fast. Use very short taps on the trim buttons. Try using the mouse on the cruise trim button just below and to the right of the power levers. See screen capture Trimming is something that is hard to teach. In the real plane you should use the yoke to place the nose where you want it and then trim out the pressure. That's the real world. In the sim you do not have the feel of the pressure on the yoke so it is very easy to over trim. Try very short taps on the trim buttons on the joystick. I am able to trim OK doing just that. Lou Uploaded with ImageShack.us

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David Paul Senior Member Offline Posts: 270 Joined: Dec 25^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Something wrong with my pitch?? Reply #4 - Jun 22^nd, 2011 at 10:11am	Print Post
	I believe this problem isn't with the pitch trim, it is with the autopilot pitch control, which does not work correctly in the current version of the plane, unless you are running FSX Acceleration. This is a well documented issue, and there is even a download to fix it. Trouble is, the download is not a proper fix, it will cause the yoke to wildly go back and forth with the autopilot on. Ther only thing that wroked for me was to purchase Acceleration. Now it works like it should for me.

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wigerup Full Member Offline Posts: 50 Joined: Dec 4^th, 2007	Re: Something wrong with my pitch?? Reply #5 - Jun 22^nd, 2011 at 2:26pm	Print Post
	Thanks for the help and advises. It seems that I have to install the FSX Acceleration. I do want this 727 to work cause I like it very, very much. With the best regards Bjorn


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David Paul Senior Member Offline Posts: 270 Joined: Dec 25^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Something wrong with my pitch?? Reply #6 - Jun 22^nd, 2011 at 3:07pm	Print Post
	You can try the download on this site and see if it solves the problem for you. It did not work for me. It caused my yoke to violently move back and forth. Same for at least two others here. If you get Acceleration, then do the flight model mods from Michael (on this forum), you can fly this baby by the numbers with real EPR settings and it is remarkable! I would have preferred not to have had to purchase Acceleration, but it WAS worth it to me.

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wigerup Full Member Offline Posts: 50 Joined: Dec 4^th, 2007	Re: Something wrong with my pitch?? Reply #7 - Jun 22^nd, 2011 at 5:39pm	Print Post
	Thanks David Paul!!!, Yes I purch the FSX Acceleration and it works perfectly. Strange indeed that I need this addon to get it work. The only mish I get when I now start the FSX is an error code that says I-80004005. It has something to do with the activation. I do really have the legal stuff, both the FSX and the FSX Acceleration, but I suppose that I have to live with that. No my 727 is flying like a real bird. Thanks again David Paul!! With great regards Bjorn


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ottoramsaig Full Member Offline An earth bound misfit I........ Posts: 138 Location: Barnegat, New Jersey. USA Joined: Jan 3^rd, 2011 Gender:	Re: Something wrong with my pitch?? Reply #8 - Jul 11^th, 2011 at 1:49pm	Print Post
	David Paul wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2011 at 3:07pm: You can try the download on this site and see if it solves the problem for you. � It did not work for me. �It caused my yoke to violently move back and forth. �Same for at least two others here. � If you get Acceleration, then do the flight model mods from Michael (on this forum), you can fly this baby by the numbers with real EPR settings and it is remarkable! � I would have preferred not to have had to purchase Acceleration, but it WAS worth it to me. � Who is Michael and what is this mod?


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CoolP Senior Member Offline Posts: 2568 Joined: Jan 17^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Something wrong with my pitch?? Reply #9 - Jul 11^th, 2011 at 2:10pm	Print Post
	Michael is a very talented guy and one of his mods is here, Otto. http://www.captainsim.org/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1296889437 I'm using his -100 and -200 mods and have nothing but praises there.


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asanal Senior Member Offline Posts: 522 Location: Flemington,NJ USA Joined: Jul 9^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: Something wrong with my pitch?? Reply #10 - Jul 11^th, 2011 at 4:49pm	Print Post
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saber New Member Offline Posts: 4 Joined: Jan 1^st, 2012	Re: Something wrong with my pitch?? Reply #11 - Jan 18^th, 2012 at 4:07am	Print Post
	Quote: Posted by: David Paul Posted on: Jun 22nd, 2011, 11:11am I believe this problem isn't with the pitch trim, it is with the autopilot pitch control, �which does not work correctly in the current version of the plane, unless you are running FSX Acceleration. � This is a well documented issue, and there is even a download to fix it. �Trouble is, the download is not a proper fix, it will cause the yoke to wildly go back and forth with the autopilot on. � Ther only thing that wroked for me was to purchase Acceleration. �Now it works like it should for me. David, I have FSX SP2 on a Windows 7 64-bit. �The only FSX Acceleration Expansion product I see is for Windows Vista. �Will this work or cause conflicts?


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Markoz CS Team Offline Posts: 12445 Location: Victoria, Australia Joined: Apr 24^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: Something wrong with my pitch?? Reply #12 - Jan 18^th, 2012 at 8:43am	Print Post
	It should work fine on Windows 7 64bit. I bought the Acceleration Expansion Pack when it first came out (when I was using Windows XP Professional) and it works perfectly on my Windows 7 Professional 64bit. Mark

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saber New Member Offline Posts: 4 Joined: Jan 1^st, 2012	Re: Something wrong with my pitch?? Reply #13 - Jan 18^th, 2012 at 11:41am	Print Post
	Markoz wrote on Jan 18^th, 2012 at 8:43am: It should work fine on Windows 7 64bit. I bought the Acceleration Expansion Pack when it first came out (when I was using Windows XP Professional) and it works perfectly on my Windows 7 Professional 64bit. Mark Markoz, Thanks for the reply!


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saber New Member Offline Posts: 4 Joined: Jan 1^st, 2012	Re: Something wrong with my pitch?? Reply #14 - Jan 18^th, 2012 at 12:12pm	Print Post
	Markoz wrote on Jan 18^th, 2012 at 8:43am: It should work fine on Windows 7 64bit. I bought the Acceleration Expansion Pack when it first came out (when I was using Windows XP Professional) and it works perfectly on my Windows 7 Professional 64bit. Mark Mark, One other question ... Are there any special installation instructions (i.e. special compatibility modes) or would, simply, "Run as Administrator" work? Neal


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