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DAL191 Senior Member Offline Posts: 388 Location: Tampa FL USA Joined: Nov 26^th, 2009 Gender:	CDU Progress Page Apr 19^th, 2011 at 4:03pm	Print Post
	Just for your information. I am doing a flight from KFLL to KJFK and the Progress 1/2 page indicates a ETA at KJFK of 1622 and ETA at T/D 1611. The difference between the two ETAs is 11 minutes. The plane is at FL350. So it is going to descend, conduct a ILS approach and land in 11 minutes. I would say this FMC is screwed up. Do other people have this problem. Maybe the aledged 4.5 update will solve this issue. Michael Cubine

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LOU Beta Team Offline 727,707,747,757,767= 40years of Boeings Posts: 1593 Location: Central PA, USA Joined: Mar 3^rd, 2010 Gender:	Re: CDU Progress Page Reply #1 - Apr 19^th, 2011 at 6:09pm	Print Post
	Michael, I have to agree with you - that is a pretty fast descent. I don't have the CS-767, but the 757 computer is the old style non PEGASUS FMC which is OK, but does not have all the smart stuff that the new FMC has. I seem to remember a DIR INT (direct intercept) key, but it's not shown on this computer control panel. I hope that the next up-date will fix these problems. Lou

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DAL191 Senior Member Offline Posts: 388 Location: Tampa FL USA Joined: Nov 26^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: CDU Progress Page Reply #2 - Apr 19^th, 2011 at 7:31pm	Print Post
	Lou Later I will post a topic on how entering the winds aloft average direction and speed or by each waypoint makes virtually no difference in the ETA at the T/D. Maybe I expect too much or don't know what to expect but I do base my expectations upon what I have been able to do in the P..G MD11 flights that last 10-12 hours and covers from 35 to 60 waypoints. Michael Cubine

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Nepomuk Full Member Offline Posts: 79 Location: Germany Joined: Dec 27^th, 2008 Gender:	Re: CDU Progress Page Reply #3 - Apr 20^th, 2011 at 5:26am	Print Post
	I�ve noticed the far to early ETA too. CS should take a look for 4.5. The wind data entry doesn�t work as described in the manual. I already posted a ticket. The answer was that they will remove it from the manual. Regards Nepo


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DAL191 Senior Member Offline Posts: 388 Location: Tampa FL USA Joined: Nov 26^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: CDU Progress Page Reply #4 - Apr 20^th, 2011 at 6:27am	Print Post
	Nepomuk wrote on Apr 20^th, 2011 at 5:26am: I�ve noticed the far to early ETA too. CS should take a look for 4.5. The wind data entry doesn�t work as described in the manual. I already posted a ticket. The answer was that they will remove it from the manual. Regards Nepo Nepo Thanks for the information. "Remove it from the manual." What a crummy answer but a least they replyed and did not cancel your ticket. So whay you are saying is a wind direction and speed entered and executed for a waypoint will not carry on down the route to the remaining waypoints if wind direction and speed are not entered for those subsequent waypoints. What about entering the wind info for each waypoint in a route? Does that work? Thank you Michael Cubine.

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burnerski Full Member Offline Posts: 7 Joined: Mar 6^th, 2011	Re: CDU Progress Page Reply #5 - Apr 20^th, 2011 at 3:03pm	Print Post
	It's probably just taking your current speed and distance for ETA.


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burnerski Full Member Offline Posts: 7 Joined: Mar 6^th, 2011	Re: CDU Progress Page Reply #6 - Apr 20^th, 2011 at 3:29pm	Print Post
	If you think there are errors you can go to the legs page and select the bottom right button "route data" �on the left you can read the time on the right the fuel, just step through the flight plan to find the miscalculation. The deal is it don't matter what the automation says or does you still just fly and manage your airplane.


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DAL191 Senior Member Offline Posts: 388 Location: Tampa FL USA Joined: Nov 26^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: CDU Progress Page Reply #7 - Apr 20^th, 2011 at 6:16pm	Print Post
	I just finished a KJFJ-KDFW flight. The ETA at the T/D was pretty sad. There were 19 waypoints in the flight 3 of which were prior to criuse altutude of FL340. Those three I entered a lower and upper altitude for since the winds aloft report generated by ASX shows wind direction, speed, and SAT temperature for 6000. 9000, 12000, FL180, FL240, FL300, FL340, and so on to FL490. The first waypoint was the Robinsville VOR at around FL223 I entered FL180 and FL240 info. The next two waypoints were COPES and BYRDD at about FL310 and FL330. For those two I used data for FL300 and FL340. The rest of the waypoints were at FL340. For each of the remaining waypoints I entered the wind direction, speed, and SAT per ASX. When I reached cruise altitude the T/D ETA was 1640 GMT. Actual T/D was 1657. Off by 17 minutes on a three hour flight. Nepo, I think I answered my question. Entries by each waypoint does not work. You will be a T/D when you get there. Michael Cubine

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DAL191 Senior Member Offline Posts: 388 Location: Tampa FL USA Joined: Nov 26^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: CDU Progress Page Reply #8 - Apr 21^st, 2011 at 6:50am	Print Post
	burnerski wrote on Apr 20^th, 2011 at 3:29pm: If you think there are errors you can go to the legs page and select the bottom right button "route data" �on the left you can read the time �on the right the fuel, just step through the flight plan to find the miscalculation. The deal is it don't matter what the automation says or does you still just fly and manage your airplane. Thanks for the info. I had completed the fight by the time I read your post so I will not be able to try your suggestion. It took almost 45 minutes to enter the wind information by waypoint: therefore, there will be no future flights where I could check it out. Thank you Michael Cubine

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