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Where do you fly your CS727?
Apr 16th, 2011 at 12:47pm
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So where does everybody fly?   What liveries do you like best?

I fly in areas that are familiar to me from previous real world flights as a passenger (although none of them have been on a 727, unfortunately).  I use Glasgow or Edinburgh, Scotland as a sort of home base, then fly to other areas of the UK and Europe and then fly home.  I usually try to pick a livery that one might actually have seen during the era that this plane is from, but not always.  Nath's British Airways paints are lovely, I often fly BA-BSY, his -100 in BA "Landor" colours.  Beautiful!

I also love the Braniff Orange -200, the Cougar Freighter, the old United and Eastern -100's, and the funky UDF prototype.  I like all the others too.
  


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Re: Where do you fly your CS727?
Reply #1 - Apr 16th, 2011 at 1:40pm
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I have Ansett Airlines and TAA (Trans Australian Airways) repaints and I mostly fly from Melbourne - Adelaide/Sydney/Brisbane/Canberra/Alice Springs/Darwin.

I did a return trip Melbourne - Adelaide - Melbourne back in about '83 with TAA. And I think that was the only time I've been on a 727.

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Re: Where do you fly your CS727?
Reply #2 - Apr 16th, 2011 at 5:18pm
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I take my old CS 727-100 all over the place. One of the fun approaches in the 727 or the 757 is the River approach to KDCA. It was fun in the real plane and it's fun in the sim. Sometimes I make the weather bad and shoot a bunch of ILS's, just to keep my hand in the flying.

I also have all the special high def airports from FTX in the Pacific Northwest. I love just getting in the Cub with Ms. Heidi and touring the beautiful scenery. And Heidi keeps and eye out for traffic for me as well.

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Re: Where do you fly your CS727?
Reply #3 - Apr 16th, 2011 at 8:49pm
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LOU wrote on Apr 16th, 2011 at 5:18pm:
I take my old CS 727-100 all over the place. One of the fun approaches in the 727 or the 757 is the River approach to KDCA. It was fun in the real plane and it's fun in the sim. Sometimes I make the weather bad and shoot a bunch of ILS's, just to keep my hand in the flying.

I also have all the special high def airports from FTX in the Pacific Northwest. I love just getting in the Cub with Ms. Heidi and touring the beautiful scenery. And Heidi keeps and eye out for traffic for me as well.

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I just did a flight from KEWR to KDCA.  Using High Alt Airways with the FSX flight planner, I got FL180.  Does that sound right?   The FSX ATC gave me vectors for visual 15.  That was cool.  I nailed it. 

So what is the River approach?  Is there a chart that is downloadable?
  


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Re: Where do you fly your CS727?
Reply #4 - Apr 16th, 2011 at 9:51pm
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All across europe.. usually I fly the 100 with my own Condor repaint, from germany to all those sunny destinations or just shorter hops (currently flying Stuttgart-Paphos). Also using the Cougar or FedEx 200F all across europe- mainly. Yesterday I took her from Lima into Cuzco.
  
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Reply #5 - Apr 17th, 2011 at 3:48am
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Give the River Visual to KDCA a try....
http://www.fltplan.com/AwDisplayAppChart.exe?CRN10=1&CARRYUNAME=PILOT&DEPTARPT=K...

In the FMS planes this is too easy, but in a manly  Shocked  plane you need to make all the crossings.
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Reply #6 - Apr 17th, 2011 at 7:31pm
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Be certain to announce your intentions on CTAF while approaching DCA, though.
  
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Reply #7 - Apr 18th, 2011 at 11:28am
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i personally base my flight routes on payware airport addons, in the past year i bought around 20 airports accross europe like EDDF, LKGOS, LPFR, DTMB etc.

My main hub is EDDF and from their i created some routes towards all my other payware airport destinations with a self painted CS727 and CS707 (all cargo flights) depending on airport size Smiley

I have combined it with a small program FSCaptain (like fspassengers) to give a bit more touch Smiley

currently i'm saving some money to expand AES to get more live on the airports based around my aircraft (get a follow car after landing and stuff) very neat.  Cool
  

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Reply #8 - Apr 18th, 2011 at 2:00pm
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LOU wrote on Apr 17th, 2011 at 3:48am:
Give the River Visual to KDCA a try....
http://www.fltplan.com/AwDisplayAppChart.exe?CRN10=1&CARRYUNAME=PILOT&DEPTARPT=K...

In the FMS planes this is too easy, but in a manly  Shocked  plane you need to make all the crossings.
Lou


Living in DC, I'm a big fan of the river visual, but I will note that its a bit harder in the sim than in real life because the bridges in FSX do not have the center lights that help guide you in at night.
  
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Reply #9 - Apr 18th, 2011 at 3:30pm
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That is true, but the river is the only dark ribbon around, so you just stay in the middle. This is one of the most fun approaches to do in the 727 or the 757. One evening many years ago, I was flying the river visual just at dark. It was the 4 of July. As we turned past the Watergate Hotel, the sky erupted in the most amazing display of fireworks I have ever seen. What a show!  Smiley

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Reply #10 - Apr 19th, 2011 at 10:17am
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LOU wrote on Apr 18th, 2011 at 3:30pm:
One evening many years ago, I was flying the river visual just at dark. It was the 4 of July. As we turned past the Watergate Hotel, the sky erupted in the most amazing display of fireworks I have ever seen. What a show!  Smiley

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Awesome! What a unique view!
  

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Reply #11 - Apr 19th, 2011 at 10:38pm
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The DCA river approach is easy.
Start outside the DCA dme (111.0) and cross the 10 dme at 3,000ft over the river. Start your decent there. Multiply the dme x 3 and that will be the desired altitude all the way down. Be sure to stay over the river all the time. There is a quick jog to the left and then the right at 500ft to remain over the water. Don't miss that or you might get a phone call from your chief pilot who had a call from the FAA. Maybe not, but the people on the ground appreciate it. Besides, It's a fun approach.
















Start outside the 10 dme of DCA vor over the river and cross the 10 dme at 3,000 ft.
Multiply the dme distance times 3 all the way down and it will work just right.
  
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Reply #12 - Apr 19th, 2011 at 11:19pm
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LOU wrote on Apr 17th, 2011 at 3:48am:
Give the River Visual to KDCA a try....
http://www.fltplan.com/AwDisplayAppChart.exe?CRN10=1&CARRYUNAME=PILOT&DEPTARPT=K...

In the FMS planes this is too easy, but in a manly  Shocked  plane you need to make all the crossings.
Lou


Thx for the recommendation.  I just did my first VATSIM flight with the 727-100 using only VOR/DME for navigation.  I have all the mods installed, so I was able to utilize the performance data, which worked very well, and it flew by the numbers.  I went from LAX to DCA and got to try my hand at the runway 19 river visual approach.  My route was KLAX LOOP6 DAG DRK J134 FLM J24 HVQ WZRRD2 KDCA, and I got to fly about half of the WZRRD2 approach before getting cleared direct to the AML vor.  I was then vectored by DCA approach to the river for the fun part down to runway 19.

I highly recommend learning how to navigate this aircraft using the old methods as it is a challenge and gives a sense of real accomplishment when you pull a flight off, especially under the observation of live ATC. Flying this way will also keep you really busy.
  

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Reply #13 - Apr 20th, 2011 at 3:40pm
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Sounds good, audiohavoc, really worth a try to do it the old way, which is the new way if you're used to FMCs.  Cheesy
  
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CoolP wrote on Apr 20th, 2011 at 3:40pm:
Sounds good, audiohavoc, really worth a try to do it the old way, which is the new way if you're used to FMCs.  Cheesy


Thanks, and that is my experience as well.  I started with glass but I am now flying a mixture of old and newer aircraft to help develop my skills.  Try navigating an old B-17 and than switch to a modern airliner Shocked.  Doing this has really increased my appreciation for glass cockpits and modern navigation.
  

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