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Reply #195 - May 26th, 2011 at 1:52am
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boeing247 wrote on May 26th, 2011 at 1:31am:
Peter, as it says in my little side banner - only Boeing planes.

Do most commercial pilots only fly planes by a certain company?


It depends. My Dad's flown the 737, 727, 767, 757, DC-9, MD-11,
DC-3, MD-80 all with Delta, excluding the DC-3. It doesn't matter really. TWA had almost all Boeings, but did in fact have L-1011s and a few other planes. If you were with say, Alaska, all you could have flown in Boeings, unless you were around for the Convair 880.
  

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Reply #196 - May 26th, 2011 at 2:03am
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boeing247 asked: Do most commercial pilots only fly planes by a certain company?

That depends on the airline, and what planes they have. If you work for Southwest it would be Boeing 737.
TWA had several choices of planes to fly. Boeing, Douglass, Convair or Lockheed. Pilots bid on what they wish to fly in seniority order. The most senior pilot gets the first choice and the junior pilot gets what's left over. The way my career worked out I flew Boeing planes. I almost went to school on the Convair 880, but stayed on the 727 since it was more pay and better working conditions. Pay is usually based on gross weight, something left over from the airmail days.

Once you go to school on a certain plane you are usually frozen there for 18 months, unless the company moves you. This is due to the cost of training and until the 757/767 came along each plane was so different that you were normally kept to one plane at a time. Some pilots were dual qualified, but that was a lot of work to keep both planes up to date for books and landings. At one time as an instructor I flew the 727, 707 and the 747...that was a ton of work.

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Reply #197 - May 26th, 2011 at 2:12am
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The Convair was the coolest thing. Its still the fastest subsonic jetliner ever designed.

How long were yo uwith TWA?
  

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Reply #198 - May 26th, 2011 at 6:34am
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701151 wrote on May 26th, 2011 at 1:52am:
boeing247 wrote on May 26th, 2011 at 1:31am:
Peter, as it says in my little side banner - only Boeing planes.

Do most commercial pilots only fly planes by a certain company?


It depends. My Dad's flown the 737, 727, 767, 757, DC-9, MD-11,
DC-3, MD-80 all with Delta, excluding the DC-3. It doesn't matter really. TWA had almost all Boeings, but did in fact have L-1011s and a few other planes. If you were with say, Alaska, all you could have flown in Boeings, unless you were around for the Convair 880.


pj747

When you have chance would you ask your dad what his impressions of the MD-11 were and what were the general types of route flown?

Thank you
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Reply #199 - May 26th, 2011 at 10:12am
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LOU wrote on May 25th, 2011 at 5:43pm:
Mark, both planes were 727's. The aft stair gives this away as well as the cockpit.
The newsman got it wrong as is sometimes the case.  Shocked

Peter, as it says in my little side banner - only Boeing planes.

OH NO! I must be losing it. Shocked
That stuff about the aft stairway went straight over my head. Sad

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Reply #200 - May 26th, 2011 at 12:33pm
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DAL191 wrote on May 26th, 2011 at 6:34am:
701151 wrote on May 26th, 2011 at 1:52am:
boeing247 wrote on May 26th, 2011 at 1:31am:
Peter, as it says in my little side banner - only Boeing planes.

Do most commercial pilots only fly planes by a certain company?


It depends. My Dad's flown the 737, 727, 767, 757, DC-9, MD-11,
DC-3, MD-80 all with Delta, excluding the DC-3. It doesn't matter really. TWA had almost all Boeings, but did in fact have L-1011s and a few other planes. If you were with say, Alaska, all you could have flown in Boeings, unless you were around for the Convair 880.


pj747

When you have chance would you ask your dad what his impressions of the MD-11 were and what were the general types of route flown?

Thank you
Michael Cubine


Well, I ask him later, he's in Paris right now, flying the 767, but I do know that he said it was a nice plane. He flew into Taipei, Hong Kong-Kai Tak, Japan, Mumbai, and quite a lot more out of Los Angeles, and Portland of course. He said it was a bit sketchy in places like Kai Tak (or anywhere else for that matter) because it had a higher approach speed than 747s, L-1011s, 777s, 767s, most anything.
  

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Reply #201 - May 26th, 2011 at 12:39pm
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Reply #202 - May 28th, 2011 at 7:28pm
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Cool look at KBOS for just one hour compressed into just over 2 minutes.

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Reply #203 - May 29th, 2011 at 5:15pm
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Busy places there. I sometimes listen to live ATC and there business sometimes is amazing.
But this of course depends on the time.

Here's my favourite one, some thunderstorm related deviations. The MD11 fans can watch too since this was recorded at Memphis, the base of one of the largest MD11 operators.
Really fun to watch those guys getting around that bad weather.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6886880938991195179#
To the end of the video, the TS reaches the airport, forcing the flies to go around a bit.  Grin

Have to say that "bad weather" in the sim is nothing compared to the real thing. You just do it, while real planes get into big trouble, like that AF one.  Undecided
Any weather related stories around, Lou? Worst descent maybe?
Which plane did best in those conditions?
  
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Reply #204 - May 29th, 2011 at 5:46pm
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LOU wrote on May 25th, 2011 at 3:16am:
World Airways Evacuation From Da Nang To Saigon 1975
A memory (perhaps best forgotten?)


Not for the faint of heart....http://vimeo.com/8649603


Man that brought back some memories! Army 66-70
  

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Reply #205 - May 29th, 2011 at 6:24pm
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LOU wrote on May 28th, 2011 at 7:28pm:
Cool look at KBOS for just one hour compressed into just over 2 minutes.

Lou

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Pretty neat.  Grin If you watch the water, you can see the tide going out, too.

  

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Reply #206 - May 30th, 2011 at 4:00am
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CoolP wrote on May 29th, 2011 at 5:15pm:
Busy places there. I sometimes listen to live ATC and there business sometimes is amazing.
But this of course depends on the time.

Here's my favourite one, some thunderstorm related deviations. The MD11 fans can watch too since this was recorded at Memphis, the base of one of the largest MD11 operators.
Really fun to watch those guys getting around that bad weather.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6886880938991195179#
To the end of the video, the TS reaches the airport, forcing the flies to go around a bit.  Grin

Have to say that "bad weather" in the sim is nothing compared to the real thing. You just do it, while real planes get into big trouble, like that AF one.  Undecided
Any weather related stories around, Lou? Worst descent maybe?
Which plane did best in those conditions?

It's like watching ants going into their nest. Grin

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Reply #207 - May 31st, 2011 at 1:44am
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Above, CoolP asked: Have to say that "bad weather" in the sim is nothing compared to the real thing. You just do it, while real planes get into big trouble, like that AF one. 
Any weather related stories around, Lou? Worst descent maybe?
Which plane did best in those conditions?


Ice and snow always make for a pain since the deicing process is still stupid at most airports. Deicing at the gate is dumb since it takes too long to get to the runway and snow starts build on the wing and it's back to the gate for more spray. A few airports have deicing at the departure end of the runway, but still, it is a pretty stupid and waste full use of deicing fluid since the fluid is sprayed on the plane and the runoff goes into the groundwater instead of being recycled - a legal problem, since the quality of the recycled fluid is hard to control at present state-of-the-art.

The violent thunder storm is still one of the nasty things to deal with. Since the cell can take up a large chunk of airspace it make it hard for ATC to fit all the planes, safely. Wind shear and the down-burst shear are still a problem, but understanding of the problem, plus better radar, instruments and computers + training, are helping avoid this nasty part of the thunderstorm. Better planes like the 757, with high thrust-to-weight also helps in getting through these events.

I wish there was a really good add-on that would show a good simulation of heavy rain, skud, low clouds and gusty winds.
The weather simulation of clouds and rain in FSX is pretty poor.

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Reply #208 - May 31st, 2011 at 9:36am
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You name it, the current weather seems more like a fun experience since all sim pilots (including me) are really happy about some lightning and heavy clouds while the biggest problem there is to catch that ILS.

I've cranked up some sliders and also enabled random turbulences and stuff, but I still have a relative smooth ride in the worst weather imaginable so far.
The only hazard with those "turbulent" weather settings is a disconnecting AP in cruise since the wind change from one weather cell to the next one isn't always smoothed out then.
If you enable the smoothing there, the ride gets even more boring.
Yes, there are some planes around were e. g. "Windshear!" comes up as a warning, but while the real pilot will go-around then, I'm just going to land.  Grin Not that real, huh? (I sometimes go-around then, using TOGA, just to make it more realistic for me and the ATC guy)

So I'm hoping for some even more advanced weather addons or a completely new system in "Flight", kicking the simmers a.. in some conditions.
This one for example won't be fun for any real pilot, it actually took quite some lives there.

   A BOAC Canadair C-4 (G-ALHE), Kano Airport - 24 June 1956.
   A MALÉV Ilyushin Il-18 (HA-MOC), Copenhagen Airport – 28 August 1971.
   Eastern Air Lines Flight 66 Boeing 727-225(N8845E), John F. Kennedy International Airport – 24 June 1975[8]
   Pan Am Flight 759 Boeing 727-235 (N4737), New Orleans International Airport – 9 July 1982[8]
   Delta Air Lines Flight 191 Lockheed L-1011 TriStar (N726DA), Dallas-Fort Worth International Airport – 2 August 1985[8]
   Martinair Flight 495 McDonnell Douglas DC-10 (PH-MBN), Faro Airport – 21 December 1992[9]
   USAir Flight 1016 Douglas DC-9 (N954VJ), Charlotte/Douglas International Airport – 2 July 1994
   Goodyear Blimp GZ-20A (N1A, "Stars and Stripes"), Coral Springs, Florida – 16 June 2005


How would the plane behave there?
First, it gets sucked in (that should be the stage were plane sensors can spot a fast pressure/direction change and therefore trigger a warning), so maybe it accelerates, then the downforce of the actual airstream should come into play.
So getting out there fast reduces the time it affects you and also enhances the stability of the plane since fast means more stable and also more effective rudder/aileron authority and more available lift from the wings, counteracting the downforce.
But the structural load will increase then since all counteracting will always fight the actual load from the air itself.
If you are in full landing config there, you are not stable, not fast and very vulnerable, right? Also, getting back to "more stable" takes time because of the high drag and all the devices which have to be retracted.

I think that this situation will be another one of those 'this is why they get the big money' things since the right decision and timely operation saves lives there, or takes them if not fulfilled.

Can you spot those things with a modern radar?
  
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Reply #209 - May 31st, 2011 at 9:38am
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Mark, I've told you not to fly when you are already tired.  Grin

Cadet pilot asleep at the wheel during 250km snooze
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/more-news/cadet-pilot-asleep-at-the-wheel-durin...
But a safe outcome there, although that pilot's career may have ended due to the medical circumstances.  Undecided
  
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