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727-200 Repaint kit question.
Dec 12th, 2010 at 7:03am
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I was not able to find a similar question so please forgive me if it has already been asked.

I am finishing up a rempaint for the 727-200 and I have encountered a few problems.  The paint kit doesn't line up quite right, but I was able to work around that for the most part.  My questions is can the wings be painted?  I noticed they are in the repaint kit but only the right wing and I don't know where to put the texture file as it is obviously placed some where besides the standard texture folder for the repaint.  Am I missing something?  Thanks.
  
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Re: 727-200 Repaint kit question.
Reply #1 - Dec 12th, 2010 at 3:26pm
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If you paint the wings (which I thought could be done) and place the texture in the same folder as the rest of the repainted textures, then it will be used. The texture.cfg tells FSX to look in the other folders listed, for those textures that are NOT in the texture folder.

This is the contents of the CS_B727-100\texture.aa\texture.cfg:

[fltsim]

fallback.1=..\texture
fallback.2=..\texture\spec
fallback.3=..\texture\bump
fallback.4=..\texture\night
fallback.5=..\..\..\..\Scenery\Global\texture
fallback.6=..\..\..\..\..\..\Scenery\Global\texture


If the texture isn't in \texture.aa. It will look in the \texture folder. If not there, the \texture\spec etc....

If you repaint the wings (727_100_4_T.psd) and put them in the \texture folder, you would overwrite the original and then ALL the 727-100's will use the repainted wings.

As for the rest of your question, I can't answer that.

Hope this helps.

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Re: 727-200 Repaint kit question.
Reply #2 - Dec 12th, 2010 at 7:01pm
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Thanks.  I did put the wing textures in the folder.  I have 727_200_5_T and 727_200_4_T in the designated texture folder.  The only thing I did was add a registration number to the wing but they are not showing up in the sim.  I will keep playing with it to see if there is something I am missing.  Any body else painted a wing that can share how they got it to work?  Thanks
  
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Re: 727-200 Repaint kit question.
Reply #3 - Dec 13th, 2010 at 2:08am
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OK...I made some progress. After a little thinking it made sence that the 100 and 200 models used the same wing so the wing texture name needs to be 727_100_4_T even though its for the -200 model.  However, now I am stuck with a right wing left wing problem.  Both wings are using the right wing texure.  So I have an APU on both wings and registration on the top of both wings vs. one on top and one on the bottom.  So...I have made some progress but not all the way just yet. I will keep at it and see what happens.
  
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Re: 727-200 Repaint kit question.
Reply #4 - Dec 13th, 2010 at 12:47pm
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sirbruchie wrote on Dec 13th, 2010 at 2:08am:
OK...I made some progress. After a little thinking it made sence that the 100 and 200 models used the same wing so the wing texture name needs to be 727_100_4_T even though its for the -200 model.  However, now I am stuck with a right wing left wing problem.  Both wings are using the right wing texure.  So I have an APU on both wings and registration on the top of both wings vs. one on top and one on the bottom.  So...I have made some progress but not all the way just yet. I will keep at it and see what happens.


What I recommend is copying the 727_100_4_T.psd and renaming it 727_100_5_T.psd, then paint each one individually & create the textures.  The APU port is a layer that can be hidden so that it only appears on the correct texture (right side of the aircraft I believe, 727_100_5_T, but don't quote me since it has been awhile!)
  
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Re: 727-200 Repaint kit question.
Reply #5 - Dec 14th, 2010 at 1:51am
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OK...I am really confused, I mean really confused.  I put the 727_100_4_T texure file and only that file in the texture folder.  On the top of the wing I placed the registration number.  When I loaded the sim the registration number appeared on both sides (mirrored) which means it was backward one of the wings.  Bare in mind that the APU port was also showing on both wings, but it doesnt show on both wings in any of the default paints.  So that lead me to believe that the sim is using the same texure for both sides.  But how can that be?  The defaults have different wings identified by the APU port only showing on the right hand side?  I then renamed the file to 727_100_5_T and the APU port disappeard from the left side but the registration number stayed? Say what?  Anybody painted a wing before so you can tell me what I am doing wrong or is it the paint kit/model set  up wierd?
  
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Re: 727-200 Repaint kit question.
Reply #6 - Dec 14th, 2010 at 3:02am
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I discovered something...when the file is named 727_100_5_T (which is be the left wing) there are portions of the wing that do not allow textures to show up.  I realized this during a test when my markings spilled over to the flaps/spoilers.  Only the portion of my markings on those surfaces showed up anything on the silvery top of the wind does not display.  Hoever if you rename the file to 727_100_4_T what you put on the wing is mirrored on both wings.  Is there a hidden layer in the bitmap or is it the model.  This happens to the markings too (exit arrows and APU portal) if you move the to the left or right the portion over the silvery section disappears.   Cry
  
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Re: 727-200 Repaint kit question.
Reply #7 - Dec 14th, 2010 at 3:22am
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I hope I have not been boring everyone with my constant updates but here is my final conclusion:  If you look closly at the model the wing stem and of course the spoilers are mapped seperatly.  That is why the APU only shows on one side and not the other.  The front half of the wing and the under side are mapped to the same texture.  That is why if you place name the file ..._4_T your markings are mirrored except for the wing root and APU portal.  Its a bummer but I guess it's life.  The modelers probably did this because it was easier.  I won't be able to put registration wing marking for my mexicana repaint so I that means its almost done.  To those who read and provided feed back, Thanks.
  
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Re: 727-200 Repaint kit question.
Reply #8 - Dec 14th, 2010 at 12:12pm
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sirbruchie wrote on Dec 14th, 2010 at 3:22am:
I hope I have not been boring everyone with my constant updates but here is my final conclusion:  If you look closly at the model the wing stem and of course the spoilers are mapped seperatly.  That is why the APU only shows on one side and not the other.  The front half of the wing and the under side are mapped to the same texture.  That is why if you place name the file ..._4_T your markings are mirrored except for the wing root and APU portal.  Its a bummer but I guess it's life.  The modelers probably did this because it was easier.  I won't be able to put registration wing marking for my mexicana repaint so I that means its almost done.  To those who read and provided feed back, Thanks.


That's weird, I've painted a few wings but never faced that problem!  Thanks for investigating it...
  
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Re: 727-200 Repaint kit question.
Reply #9 - Dec 14th, 2010 at 1:03pm
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I am curiouse when you painted the wings was it on the -100 or -200?  I have not taken the time to test with the -100 so I suppose there is a possibility that the -100 model is different.  Can you show some examples of where you painted the wings? Maybe I am doing something wrong.
  
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Re: 727-200 Repaint kit question.
Reply #10 - Dec 17th, 2010 at 12:17pm
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sirbruchie wrote on Dec 14th, 2010 at 1:03pm:
I am curiouse when you painted the wings was it on the -100 or -200?  I have not taken the time to test with the -100 so I suppose there is a possibility that the -100 model is different.  Can you show some examples of where you painted the wings? Maybe I am doing something wrong.  


I've made "clean" (no dirt layer) wing sets for both the -100 and -200...but now that I think about it, I've never actually put anything ON the wings in terms of numbers or logos, so that's why I never faced this issue!

I think you are doing everything right, it's just the odd texture mapping...
  
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