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A question for balus or any one tech savvy
Dec 5th, 2010 at 12:29pm
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ok as you know i have been having tech issues with my laptop and thank you for trying to help me with it
now as i have now clue when it comes to pc or tech stuff my question is some one has sent me some parts for a pc to do build my self
so i know there isnt much in the way of geting it up and running as it still needs parts
but with the parts supplyed would it be stable and would it run fsx
sorry if this sounds Dumn but im just a painter not tech savvy at all
parts sent to me
1x case
1x 750w power supply
1x GIGABYTE 790FXTA-UD5 Windows 7 ready and AMD3 ready
1x 2.9GHZ AMD Athlon II X2 PROCESSOR
1x 1GB GDDR5 SAPPHIRE RADEON HD5750
1x SOUNDBLASTER X-FI Titanium
3x standard no frills fans

parts i need to get so what would be best and can get on buget
HDD was told this must be a SATA ? ill google this one lol
mem i he said i need DDR3
network card
OS
monitor
  
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Re: A question for balus or any one tech savvy
Reply #1 - Dec 5th, 2010 at 3:13pm
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Looking good so far, Nathan.

DDR3 RAM is confirmed on the mainboard and CPU, speeds of 1066 or "PC3-8500U" are supported but you can chose any fast DDR3 module which comes in at low prices.
As 1333 or "PC3-10667U" come at the same price as the slower ones, you can chose them to have some overclocking headroom if you want to go for it.
Go for at least 4GB, better 8 and install a current x64 operating system then. A Win7x64 Home or so will do fine. No expensive versions needed.

Your CPU won't kick bu.. in FSX but of course can run it, overclocking is recommended then, otherwise you are at the lower end of being capable to run detailed sceneries together with some complex birds.
Going for overclocking means that you should look for a good and not to pricey cooler then although the Athlon II X2 run very cool and haven't got a huge cooling demand.

As you said that it has to be a cheap HDD, SDDs don't play a role here, they are to pricey then and FSX installations usually grow and grow. So take a current 1-2GB variant with 7200rpm and you should be ok.
SDD performance in case of fps is almost not present in FSX, so you just have loading times to fight which is no problem on current discs.

You don't have to go for special SATAIII or "SATA 6Gb/s" models as they don't use the bandwidth of the very modern interface, so SATAII or "SATA 3Gb/s" is very much ok for normal HDDs.
Of course, if the price is the same, chose the SATAIII one.

A network card is included on your mainboard, even twice.
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2 x Realtek 8111D chip (10/100/1000 Mbit)

No need to buy one. See here for the rest of specs of your board if questions arise http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3258#sp

As for the monitor, your preference counts. I think that 24inch models have a nice price point nowadays. The cheaper models use TN-panels which are ok but may be less useful if you are looking for a true color representation.
The magic numbers like 1ms reaction time are mainly marketing ones, you won't find any bad monitors for us "slow" flight sim fans, shooter guys might have another preference then.
You should look for a full HD model, so the resolution will be 1920x1200 and your graphics card won't have problems with this when running FSX.
Other games might change this (performance) picture but a HD5750 can surely run some detail without struggling. Depends on the game of course.


You should choose some price watch site to find your new stuff. Not only watch for prices but also for the reputation of the shop and look at the details before buying.
You can also go to big discounters if the run a shop nearby, all other solutions can be fine too but will raise the price on some parts.
If you need some service though, chose the friendly shops of course.
  
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Re: A question for balus or any one tech savvy
Reply #2 - Dec 5th, 2010 at 3:28pm
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ok thanks for the responce ill now have to do a good surch for the rest of parts

just one thing and this is another derrrrr moment as i said not tech savvy
whats over clocking and how to do it
  
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Reply #3 - Dec 5th, 2010 at 5:13pm
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This mainly means that you raise the default speed of your components. So if your CPU comes at 2.9ghz, you later run it at 3.5 (just an example).
This can be done easily nowadays but used to be a big task in earlier times.

There are various guides around the net, so if you have a running system you may want to read and try.
If you stay within save limits of temperatures and voltages, no harm is done but as the components only guarantee you their default speed, you may encounter instabilities when aiming too high or approaching somehow wrongly.

To get to know those limits is the task then. But, as said, if you google "Athlon X2 overclocking" or something you'll get more than enough information while your first task now is to complete your system and run it.  Wink

For the overclocking thing, a fellow pc enthusiast sitting in front of your PC could be more helpful than any guide on the net.
As FSX generally is CPU limited, the speed of your CPU therefor is the value to raise while your graphics card comes in second place and usually won't give you big gains in performance.
  
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Re: A question for balus or any one tech savvy
Reply #4 - Dec 5th, 2010 at 7:40pm
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aah i see its like getting a MINI replacing the engine with some thing like a ooh i don't know lets say a F-16 engine  
a vast improvement on the speed only time a mini would beat any thing in a race lol  but you get the thrust wrong and your FUBAR

um i think its best i leave it to an expert or ill end up blowing the PC up lol

thanks COOLP for ALL your help not just for today Wink its very much appreciated
  
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Re: A question for balus or any one tech savvy
Reply #5 - Dec 5th, 2010 at 8:09pm
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What CoolP said  Cheesy
  
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Re: A question for balus or any one tech savvy
Reply #6 - Dec 5th, 2010 at 11:44pm
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Most Gigabyte Motherboards have EasyTune included on the Drivers CD. EasyTune is a program used for overclocking the computer with the click of a single button. You can install that and increase the speed of the CPU. It's really easy to do. To be honest though. This new hardware will out perform your old laptop by a large amount (I assume), so you might not really need to overclock it.

Mark

EDIT: I hope you got enough "cups of coffee" to be able to get a Monitor, HDD and anything else you need to finish it!
  

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Re: A question for balus or any one tech savvy
Reply #7 - Dec 6th, 2010 at 12:58pm
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not to run into to much techy stuff, but a nice idea would be adding RAID-1 support in your pc.

If you build in RAID-1 (mirror) and 1 disk fails, you computer still runs on the 2nd disk.  Simply replace the faulting disk and the available disk will build up the replaced disk, so you have the RAID-1 back up.

Saves you a lot of time on reinstalling your whole machine and all things on it and stress and even loss of data.

Also found this on google searching for FSX performance on a RAID-1 solution, but found nothing, but found something interesting on RAID-0
http://www.jetlinesystems.com/performance.html

*note: RAID-1 does not replace any backup, so making a copy of important files to a seperate disk is very wise.
  

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Re: A question for balus or any one tech savvy
Reply #8 - Dec 7th, 2010 at 11:01am
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i know you dont fly fsx much so this will be ok for your repainting Wink
  
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Re: A question for balus or any one tech savvy
Reply #9 - Dec 7th, 2010 at 11:10am
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i think his laptop is dead now haven't seen him since sunday oops i hope he comes back soon
  
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Re: A question for balus or any one tech savvy
Reply #10 - Dec 7th, 2010 at 3:12pm
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I appreciate your appreciations towards some of my tips for Nathan Cheesy and as I've just dropped him another coffee (this was my third) I hope he gets back soon.

I hope all you guys saw that big "thank you" on his page together with some funky music.
Worth a look.

A completely different thing: The forums currently are running really silent or am I wrong? I usually scan all descriptions here and look here and there and hardly any new posts.
Seems like the rest of us is flying busy plans.  Smiley
  
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Re: A question for balus or any one tech savvy
Reply #11 - Dec 7th, 2010 at 3:49pm
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nahh its just nath2889 cant do any repaints and post them here thats why it quiat lol
  
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Re: A question for balus or any one tech savvy
Reply #12 - Dec 7th, 2010 at 4:40pm
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just to give you all an update i phoned nathan this after noon and indeed as i thought his laptop gave up on him yesterday and no longer works

he did say he was waiting for some parts to finish of the pc i sent him
so he hopes to be back up and running soon
  
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Reply #13 - Dec 15th, 2010 at 9:47pm
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Do you have an update about Nathan's activities?

I hope that Christmas brings him some working system again. I have enough repaints to get over the calm days now, so his pause is approved.  Cheesy
  
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Re: A question for balus or any one tech savvy
Reply #14 - Dec 17th, 2010 at 11:49pm
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Long story so ill cut it short he has the parts he needed
then put the pc together turned it on and only the fans came on so he phoned me and we went through removing all the cards and only trying with HDD
still nothing
tryed with out HDD still nothing
he went and got a new mother bord same thing
he then went and got a new PSU still nothing so now he is waiting to replace the CPU i had sent him to try see if that was the problem as i think this might be the problem due to the USB and key bord interface not geting bower to operate
but if any one has any other idias to what it can be im all ears
  
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