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Reply #15 - Sep 2nd, 2010 at 2:08pm
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Reply #16 - Sep 10th, 2010 at 8:22pm
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Capt Sim, A tutorial is not tech support but a document on learning to fly the 707. The manuals you made are very good but they do not explain how things should be done just what order to do them. Most flight sim aircraft from FS9 to FSX come with a tutorial flight. You are the only one I know that does not make a tutorial for its aircraft.

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Reply #17 - Sep 11th, 2010 at 1:17pm
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jeffg wrote on Sep 10th, 2010 at 8:22pm:
Capt Sim, A tutorial is not tech support but a document on learning to fly the 707. The manuals you made are very good but they do not explain how things should be done just what order to do them. Most flight sim aircraft from FS9 to FSX come with a tutorial flight. You are the only one I know that does not make a tutorial for its aircraft.

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Jeff your wasting your breath,
CS have by far (IMO) have done there greatest job on the 707 but never bother with there silly canned answers.
  

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Reply #18 - Sep 11th, 2010 at 6:40pm
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Has anyone been able to start the engines with the main central fuel tank empty?
  

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Reply #19 - Sep 12th, 2010 at 4:05am
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speck wrote on Sep 11th, 2010 at 6:40pm:
Has anyone been able to start the engines with the main central fuel tank empty?

After seeing your post, I went and tried it. Yes I can. This was how the fuel was distributed in the tanks:

Left Aux     100%
Left              0%
Center          0%
Right            0%
Right Aux    100%
Left Tip      100%
Right Tip    100%

I COULD NOT start the engines if:
(1) only the Left Aux had fuel (100%)
(2) only the Right Aux had fuel (100%)
(3) only the Left Tip had fuel (100%)
(4) only the Right Tip had fuel (100%)

I COULD start the engines if:
(1) only the Left had fuel (1% 272.6 lbs)
(2) only the Right had fuel (1% 272.6 lbs)
(3) only the Center had fuel (0.4% 306 lbs)
(4) if the Left Aux and Right Aux tanks both had fuel (0.9% 140.1 lbs each)
(5) if the Left Tip and Right Tip tanks both had fuel (4.8% 141.2 lbs each)

The fuel Boost Pumps for the tanks that have fuel must be turned ON. NO fuel in tank, NO fuel boost pumps. The fuel Boost Pumps for the Left Aux will also pump the fuel from the Left Tip into the Left Aux first. The same applies for the fuel Boost Pumps for the Right Aux pumping fuel from the Right Tip to the Right Aux first.

Of course any single tank with fuel (excepting the Center Tank) is NOT a good idea. Grin

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Reply #20 - Sep 12th, 2010 at 2:55pm
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Thanks a lot Mark.

I will use your fuel configuration for short trips.

Left Aux     100%
Left              0%
Center          0%
Right            0%
Right Aux    100%
Left Tip      100%
Right Tip    100%

I might have been doing something wrong when I was flying with the following config

Left Aux     0%
Left              50%
Center          10%
Right            50%
Right Aux    0%
Left Tip       0%
Right Tip      0%

I had a 2 engine flameout at 30,000ft, #2 and 4, when the center tank emptied out and could not restart the engines. I tried ram air with high pressure along with air start but the engines did not want to light up. I guess I'll recheck the fuel setting configuration on the F/E station.
  

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Reply #21 - Sep 12th, 2010 at 4:39pm
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Remember the estimated fuel burn the default FS flight planner gives you is wrong. I've found the figure given is approximately 130% the fuel burned by one engine. My formula for fuel planning is (( FS estimated fuel burn x 0.75) x 4 ) + total / estimated trip time.

That usually gives me enough fuel for taxi and then a missed approach and a TOGA or two Cheesy

For longer trips I multiply cruise time (usually trip time - 1 hour) by fuel burn rate at chosen FL, for more precise and optimised fuel planning.

As for fuel distribution, I follow the procedure as detailed in the manual to the letter. Hasn't failed me so far.

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Reply #22 - Oct 14th, 2010 at 6:09pm
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Thanks for the engine start tutorial.
The problem I have is that my nose wheels do not turn so I cannot roll to the runway or anyway else than straight on.

By the way, can I also start the engines without external services?
  

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Reply #23 - Oct 14th, 2010 at 11:48pm
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The only way to start the engines without external services, that I know of, is CTRL+E. Unfortunately that may not start all the engines. Luckily, with three engines running you can start the stubborn engine (at least you should be able to).

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