Hello folks,

Just to inform you that I'm working on a INS system integration on the Captain SIM 727. Both on 2D panel and Virtual Cockpit (VC with limitation). Please find bellow the work in progress. I'll be able to do the same on the 707 future addon.

Hope that one day CS will use that gauge by default in their addons. FlightSim Labs did it on the Concorde X.

The INS gauges used are from SimFly (freeware). And must be installed before installing my mod.

enjoy







/Xavier

it is done already. I just now need to test the installer and test some other feature.

That will be available for download in few days (just for the -100 version) and then for the other version.

All the best

Hope the installation is idiot proof for us idiots  . Looks great.

This is awesome! thanks so much Xavier. Can't wait for this �

Don't worry, the Civa INS work on the CS727.

Now all is done.

The patch will be soon available

All the best

On that topic

Bump

Thanks very much and am looking forward to trying this out.

While waiting to get this panel integration I went ahead and
set up the INS just using a Window 0 type approach, so its
just using the icon's to pop things up, did this just to see how
things worked...

Works great, just select the heading switch in the AP and toggle on
one of two INS and it worked great. Used dual DME updates on my
flight from KSNA-KPDX and had dead-on precision the whole trip.

Am anxious to get the panel patch so its integrated, oh and it would
be really nice to have this in the 707 out of the box guys! (hint)

Cheers,

Jack

Jack Vogel wrote on Jul 16^th, 2010 at 6:20pm:


Jack,

Would you please share your panel.cfg? I'd like to try this mod....thanks!

Does your textures in the VC actually update and
display current data, that would be nice, I can live
without the clickable thing, but just being able to
watch them waypoints change without a 2D popup
would be nice.

Cheers, looking for the download 

Great news 

Appreciating your work

Available :

http://www.avionic-online.com/download/CS/CIVA-CS_B727-100.zip

Please read the instruction read me before.

Enjoy !

Thanks from me too!
But something doesn't work. I only see the gauges as bitmaps; no clickable points or areas. I installed the CIVA before this already because I use the ConcordeX and the simcheck-airbus; so it was just there. But this can't be the reason for it, can it? Perhaps it is only a littel thing I didn't see?

with regards Kai

Hello,

Thanks guys, you can use and improve my work of course and I'm happy that I'm not alone here to hope that one day CS will offer us an INS VC integration like FS Labs did.

We don't ask CS to make a full INS but just to work with the authors of the CIVA INS gauge.

I've an update on this.

Cthulhus, you've tried to integrate the CIVA in the VC (clickable and non-static like it's done in the Concorde), I did too.
My approach was on another plane and I had to learn that it works in case of integration but in not in case of function.

More precisely?
Well, the CIVA manual states that only one gauge can be active at one time, meaning, that INS1 can be only displayed once.
If we had integrated the INS1 as a popup panel in 2D and also in 3D to be visible in the VC, it would fail.
I actually did this in my other plane which I used for testing (for your interest: Everything worked fine but the AP of this aircraft does not use the standard functions, so CIVA couldn't connect to it, therefor: no guidance at all via INS).

Looks like you can switch and type into the 2D part but the displays there always fail and only the VC INS unit shows all digits correctly.

So a solution would be to only work in the VC (have to move the camera quite a bit for this) or to only use the 2D popup and a static texture in the VC, which of course is our current state.
Don't know what the guys at FSLabs did to get both units to work at the same time, but as I mentioned before, they surely had more work than just copy&paste.

The VC-only solution with the CIVA INS in the 727 is therefor possible. Integration seems easy and only needs the exact coordinates in the VC texture used for the pedestal and some transparent textures were the INS units should be placed.
The rest is a simply entry in the panel.cfg and the INS comes alive.

I'm no expert, so my main drawback is the graphical coordination and also the exact definition of the INS unit position in the VC. I've looked at your reworked textures but I don't know how to tell the panel.cfg to "draw the CIVA INS here".
On my test aircraft they've used other definitions and so it was easy for me to work there. 727's panel.cfg is more complex in this case.


I myself prefer the 2D popup with those neat buttons to access ADEU and MSU although I'm a TrackIR user. It's easier to work with and the amount of data can be typed in much better than in the somehow always shaking VC.
If somebody wants to work the complete INS system in VC only, he definitely needs TrackIR and/or a camera addon. Could be possible to set up a VC view with the standard functions too, but this won't be a comfortable solution to give precise data entries.


So I'm pretty confident with the current (2D) state and surely will start some long range CIVA flights in the 727 soon.

If your're up to test once more, Cthulhus, maybe we can join our efforts and create some VC-only integration for the guys loving the 727.
As I said before, might only need some coordinates and transparent textures, I think.

Another update:
Working fine on long range operations, integrates in the HDG mode of the standard 727 AP and accepts DME updates with high accuracy too.

I've updated the previous post with the tutorial because I've added some buttons to the subpanels to allow a comfortable close when clicking. Could be useful when only the CDU or ADEU is shown and you don't want to right click "close this window" every time.