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727 Mods, Fixes & Instructions
Dec 21st, 2009 at 3:35pm
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I've gathered up the following Mods/Fixes/Instructions for the FSX 727 that have been identified by the FlightSim community:

- Autopilot Mod (by me)
- EPR Gauge Mod (code fix by Michael2, gauge compiled by me)
- VSI Gauge Fix (by me)
- Altimeter Fix (code fix by COL Bob Scott, gauges compiled by me)
- Flap Handle VC marking fix (by me)
- Fuel Crossfeed Instructions (written by JETPILOT)
- NAV/GPS Button Instructions (by me)

They are available in a zip here: <File taken offline after version 2.4 released since it fixed most of the bugs>

CaptainSim, if you want me to delete it I will...but I figured this would encourage folks to keep buying and flying the 727 until the next official update comes out.

  
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Re: 727 Mods, Fixes & Instructions
Reply #1 - Dec 21st, 2009 at 5:15pm
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Thanks for doing this. I have recently started using 727 and have noticed some of these issues as well. I will try them tonight.
  
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Reply #2 - Dec 21st, 2009 at 10:06pm
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Thanks so much for compiliing all the fixes into one source. I was interested in doing some of them but was hesitant to mess with the guage edits.

Just to make sure I understand, with the AP mods you can now be able to have the AP track either a heading or course and control the pitch/altitude manually with the yoke, rather than having to use the pitch control knob? If so thats great.

I will back up all my stuff and install these straght away. The 727 has become my favorite airliner to fly since I got it last week and these fixes will really enhance the enjoyment.

Thanks again.
  
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Reply #3 - Dec 21st, 2009 at 11:04pm
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cmpbllsjc wrote on Dec 21st, 2009 at 10:06pm:
Just to make sure I understand, with the AP mods you can now be able to have the AP track either a heading or course and control the pitch/altitude manually with the yoke, rather than having to use the pitch control knob? If so thats great.


Yes.  Flip "off" the elevator master (pitch hold) switch and you can adjust your pitch with the yoke.  Flip the switch back on and the AP will hold the current pitch angle.

The only thing I was not able to solve was that when you hit "altitude hold", the elevator master/pitch hold switch will go to the "off" position, even though the AP is obviously controlling pitch if it is holding an altitude.  When you switch the altitude hold off, the elevator master/pitch hold will switch back on to show that it is holding the current pitch attitude.

As always, when in doubt, shut the AP off and make sure the selector is in 'Manual' and start again.

I personally have been super happy with the AP mod.

I also love the 727; bought the 767s on sale but haven't had much interest in flying them yet.  Not into FMCs etc.
  
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Reply #4 - Dec 21st, 2009 at 11:46pm
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Thanks Matt for the info and fixes.

I agree with you about loving the 727. I also bought the C-130 during the sale and have only flown it once for about 30 minutes.

The only other airliner I own for FSX is the other 767 and I haven't flown it at all since getting the 727. Its nice to get back to flying more and less automation.

I really love the sound pack that the 727 came with, especially the reversers sound.
  
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Reply #5 - Dec 22nd, 2009 at 12:43am
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Thanks for uploading these fixes. I took my first airliner flight in many a moon a couple of nights ago, in my new CS 727 100F. With the exception of a couple of glitches (which this pack appears to fix) it was a very enjoyable flight. Thanks to all who made it, and a big thanks to Captain Sim for a true pilot's plane - and for their super holiday sale as well.  Wink
  
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Reply #6 - Dec 22nd, 2009 at 1:20am
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Hi, I am new here and I would like to know if there are any instructions included on these files? I am having problems with the 727-200 and the cargo version. Where I go over the buttons or controls in the cockpit and it doesn't seem to have any effect. Meaning that I can't assign the altitude or speed or anything else!

It is strange though because that doesn't happen on the 727-100.

Also when I fly IFR which I do most of the time, I set the direction I was told by the control tower but my plane does not follow the path? Any help would be appreciated! and please know that I don't have too much experience with code language!! Shocked
  

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Reply #7 - Dec 22nd, 2009 at 4:10am
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Matt 2218

Thanks for the fix package. I do have one issue with the AP in that when I switch on the Aileron Master(Autopilot master), the switch flips up to the engaged position correctly. The Elevator Master(Pitch Hold) however does not flip up in the pop up AP window. It seems to function just as u say but I have to remember whether I switched it on or off by testing the pitch responsiveness to the yoke. Is this the way it is supposed to work or is the Elevator master switch supposed to move like the Autopilot master?(it seems to only be stuck in one position"off" even though it functions as u say it should by clicking on it) BTW, in case u are wondering I do have the AP selector in manual at all times. Thanks in advance.

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Reply #8 - Dec 22nd, 2009 at 9:08am
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THANKS Matt.

I downloaded and extracted them into the 727 and they work like a charm. Yes. I did backup the originals first Wink

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Reply #9 - Dec 22nd, 2009 at 1:02pm
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pilot wrote on Dec 22nd, 2009 at 4:10am:
Matt 2218

Thanks for the fix package. I do have one issue with the AP in that when I switch on the Aileron Master(Autopilot master), the switch flips up to the engaged position correctly. The Elevator Master(Pitch Hold) however does not flip up in the pop up AP window. It seems to function just as u say but I have to remember whether I switched it on or off by testing the pitch responsiveness to the yoke. Is this the way it is supposed to work or is the Elevator master switch supposed to move like the Autopilot master?(it seems to only be stuck in one position"off" even though it functions as u say it should by clicking on it) BTW, in case u are wondering I do have the AP selector in manual at all times. Thanks in advance.

Alex C


Good Morning Alex;

No, it is not supposed to work like that...the elevator master is supposed to flip up and down to indicate whether or not "pitch hold" is active. Assuming that you put it in the right place (727-100 "panel" folder), there are two other things I can think of:

- First, even with the revised gauge I also have noticed 'strange' autopilot behavior at times, especially when loading a saved flight or changing aircraft.  I have gotten into the habit of flipping the AP off and on a couple times to clear out any 'memory' it might have.  Just yesterday I had a situation (saved flight) where the elevator master switch would not respond.  Turning the AP off and on a couple of times fixed it.  Please let us know if that works for you.

- Second, the boolean variable that I used to move the Elevator Master switch is "Pitch Hold"...I recall seeing something in the SDK about this being a new variable for SP2/Accel, but I'm not at my home computer to check it right now.  If you are running something other than SP2/Accel, could that be it?

Other than those two things, I don't know what to try.  Please keep in mind that the AP xml gauge that I was able to edit is only half of it.  Behind the scenes is a .gau gauge that I dont know how to edit, so our ability to impact its performance is limited. We're blazing new trails here so everyone please remember to back up your old stuff before you try anything new  Cheesy

- aircanada; keep in mind that you cannot "set" an airspeed or altitude with the 727.  The altitude window on the panel is just an 'alert' that rings a tone when you get close to or deviate from the altitude shown. If a tone is not ringing when the alert goes off, you need to go into the "sound.ini" file in the "FSX/Captain_Sim" folder and change "soundoffwhenslew=1" to "soundoffwhenslew=0" (I think that is what it is called anyway). As for following a heading, make sure that you've got the autopilot set to "manual", aileron master switch on, then flip the "heading select" switch. This should enable you to set the heading with the heading bug.  If you switch it to "NAV/LOC" or "AutoGS" the heading bug is useless.  To hold altitude, you need to flip the 'altitude hold' switch when you are at the desired altitude (and not climbing or diving more than 500 fpm) and it is supposed to hold it from there. I hope that helps, otherwise I don't know.

Anybody else smarter than I am feel free to chime in.  That's about all I know  Huh

Again, anytime you suspect AP issues, flip it off and on once or twice and rotate the mode knob right and left to clear it out. And did I say to back everything up first?

MarkOz - I'm sorry I forgot to include your Flight Engineer Hotkey fix in my file  Embarrassed
  
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Reply #10 - Dec 22nd, 2009 at 2:20pm
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The requested URL could not be retrieved

is the message I recive in the link
  

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now working  Wink
  

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Reply #12 - Dec 22nd, 2009 at 7:26pm
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Thanks matt: you would not mind if I ask you to point where these buttons are in the cockpit would you? I can see that there is a AP button on the icons and the automatic controls appear. From there I can see a wheel knob, then a bigger wheel knob; which I think it reads pitch down or up, and then the AP, ALT HOLD and Ring DEL and A, B, AB. which ones should I have turn on? thanks!! Roll Eyes
  

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Reply #13 - Dec 22nd, 2009 at 8:48pm
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aircanadajet wrote on Dec 22nd, 2009 at 7:26pm:
Thanks matt: you would not mind if I ask you to point where these buttons are in the cockpit would you? I can see that there is a AP button on the icons and the automatic controls appear. From there I can see a wheel knob, then a bigger wheel knob; which I think it reads pitch down or up, and then the AP, ALT HOLD and Ring DEL and A, B, AB. which ones should I have turn on? thanks!! Roll Eyes


Sure - open up the CS Manual #2 to page 57, I'll refer to the number labels on the AP gauge picture shown there. Everything I'm going to say applies to the Autopilot POPUP gauge only...I didn't make any mods to the one built into the pedestal of the VC and I don't use it!

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- Before engaging the AP, you want to be sure that knob #1 is in manual mode, and that switches 3 and 4 are down.  For good luck I generally click #3/#4 on/off once or twice.  Note that when you flip #3 up, #4 goes up too; but you need to flip them down individually.

- Once you are off the ground, if you flip switch #3, both #3 and #4 switches will go up.  At this point the AP has control of the aircraft in all axes.  You will stay "wings level" (or go level if you aren't already) and your nose will stay at whatever pitch up or down that it was when you flipped the switches. This is MANUAL MODE.

1) In this manual mode, you can do a few things:
  a) Use knob #2 to roll the aircraft or pitch it up or down.
  b) Flip switch #4 off and control pitch manually with the yoke.  When you have the pitch angle you like, you can flip switch #4 back on again, and it will hold your pitch.
  c) Flip switch #5 up and the AP will seek and hold the altitude that you were at when you flipped the switch.  Make sure your climb or descent rate is small or the aircraft will porpoise.  Note that if switch #4 was on when you turned on #5, it will switch to the off position.  This is not realistic, but the best I could do with my limited skills.
  d) Flip switch #7 up and the aircraft will turn to fly whatever heading is indicated by the 'heading bug' (orange triangle) on the Horizontal Situation Indicator (HSI). Note that if you adjust pitch using Knob #2 while you are turning toward a heading, the aircraft will temporarily stop turning as it seeks 'wings level'.  Once you stop messing with it, the AP will continue turning toward the heading.

Other modes:

NAV LOC

- If you want to track a VOR radial  or ILS localizer (horizontal navigation only), turn knob #1 to the NAV LOC position.  This has no impact at all on pitch, so you can still do the following actions listed above: 1a (pitch only), 1b, or 1c. When you go to NAV LOC mode, switch #7 will shut off and the heading bug will do nothing.

Note that if it seems like the aircraft will not capture the radial/localizer...try turning off the AP and back on, including rotating the mode knob (#1) to the right and back left to "manual".

AUTO G/S

- Auto G/S is the approach mode you use to track an ILS.  For best results, this is how I do it:

1) Start in manual mode:
- Knob #1 in manual
- Knob #2 at zero bank
- Switch #3 on
- Switch #5 on (holding my intercept altitude); therefore switch #4 off.
- Switch #7 on, holding the intercept heading that I want.

2) As you close in on the localizer, BELOW the glideslope, turn Knob #1 to "Auto G/S".  The aircraft should begin to intercept the localizer, and switch #7 will turn off.  As the glideslope indicator centers, you should see switch #5 flip "off" (#4 stays off) and the aircraft will pitch down to follow the glideslope. Make sure to manage your flaps/throttle/gear so that you aren't getting too fast or slow!

3) As I near landing (or whenever I want control) I hit "z" on my keyboard to shut off the AP (you will hear a buzzer and switch #3 will shut off).

The rest of the landing is up to you at that point.

MAN G/S

- I don't know what that mode does.

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I don't use knob #6 for anything.

I hope this helps with the 'knobology' of my modified Sperry AP.  Knowing how to operate it is only one small part of flying the aircraft successfully.  I recommend you read the CS manuals cover to cover and scrub the web for guidance on how to fly an approach.

Remember:
- Too much or too little speed will hurt you.
- Lowering your gear or adding flaps will generally require you to add power due to the increased drag.  Adding flaps in particular will cause the aircraft to climb temporarily but lose speed in the long run.
- When the aircraft pitches down to follow the glideslope it will gain speed.  
- Due to the 727's relatively low power and spool time, you need to anticipate when you will need power.
- With practice you'll get it!
  
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Reply #14 - Dec 23rd, 2009 at 2:16am
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Quick update...

I've fixed a small issue where the orange "MDA" light did not energize upon reaching the selected 'decision height' on the radio altimeter.  The fixed gauge .cab is in a separate MDA Light Fix folder that you can find at the link in my first post.

Fly Safe!

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Reply #15 - Dec 23rd, 2009 at 2:31am
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Matt2218 wrote on Dec 22nd, 2009 at 1:02pm:
MarkOz - I'm sorry I forgot to include your Flight Engineer Hotkey fix in my file  Embarrassed

Hi Matt.

I wasn't expecting that to be in there anyway so don't worry about it.  Wink

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Reply #16 - Dec 23rd, 2009 at 10:07am
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Hi Mark.

I've tested the fixes. Great work and thanks.

With the autopilot fix, I have the same issue that Alex C. stated. The Elevator Master(Pitch Hold) does not flip up in the pop up AP window.
Tested in my brother's PC and in mine with same result.

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Thanks

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Reply #17 - Dec 23rd, 2009 at 12:28pm
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javiercuellar wrote on Dec 23rd, 2009 at 10:07am:
Hi Mark.

I've tested the fixes. Great work and thanks.

With the autopilot fix, I have the same issue that Alex C. stated. The Elevator Master(Pitch Hold) does not flip up in the pop up AP window.
Tested in my brother's PC and in mine with same result.

Embarrassed

Thanks

Javier


Javier;

I'm sorry it isn't flipping up properly for you  Cry

Are you running FSX SP2 (or acceleration)?  I am running FSX Accel on Vista64; so I can't vouch for any other setup.

If that isn't the problem the only thing I can think of is turning the AP off and on a couple of times, including rotating the Mode selector knob all the way to the right and back to Manual.  I find I have to do that to get things to work properly sometimes, especially after loading a saved flight.

Good luck!  And please let us know if you solve it.
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Reply #18 - Dec 23rd, 2009 at 3:04pm
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Matt: thanks for the detailed information!!!!! Cheesy.... I will give it a try.  I flew only once on the 727-100 AA and I finally was able to keep the plane at the desired altitude/speed with the fixes you released, which is sweet!!
I would give it a try tonight with the help you gave me.

One more thing! Embarrassed I mentioned before about the fact that the 727-200 and freight version controls are completely unaware of the mouse cursor! I can't click or 'rotate' any knobs! what could possibly be causing this? I emailed the support team but I haven't heard from them yet!  anyways if you could think of something that would be nice of you!
  

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Reply #19 - Dec 23rd, 2009 at 9:47pm
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Matt

I am running FSX SP2 on XP SP2. No resolution on the Pitch hold flipping issue but no biggie, the AP mod you made works fine and is a vast improvement on the original as far as flyability is concerned. I will get used to checking whether it is off or on by yanking on my yoke. OOOOps,...didn't sound right that! Grin. Anyway, I suspect it is an XP issue since no one using W7 or Vista seems to have reported this problem. Thanks again for the AWESOME work. Happy Christmas and a Merry New Year! Smiley

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Reply #20 - Dec 23rd, 2009 at 11:59pm
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Hi, I have Win7 FS10 SP2, so it's not a problem with XP. I tried what you mentioned but still not working. I'll keep trying. Thanks.
  

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Reply #21 - Dec 24th, 2009 at 1:09am
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Alex, Javier -

The variable that I used to control the display of the elevator master switch may only apply to Acceleration.  As long as it works that is the important thing I guess.  In addition to yanking the yoke you might be able to tell the status of that elevator master by clicking it; if it jumps up for an instant then you know you have just turned it on.  At least that is how it worked in a previous iteration of the gauge for me.

Aircanada - your clicking problem with the -200 and freighters sounds like an activation issue to me...that might be how they protect the copyright.  Best go with a trouble ticket on that one.  Just a guess though.

Good luck and Merry Christmas to all!
  
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Reply #22 - Dec 24th, 2009 at 3:02pm
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An activation issue Huh but I already paid Undecided .....One more thing I noticed yesterday is that the planes do not have the yoke/stick?! and the captain window automatically opens as soon as I load the aircraft. I tried to closed it with my mouse but its fixed and almost like doesn't want to move upwards!! Embarrassed

I did fly with the instructions; Manual mode, and like I said before I was able to keep altitude and speed nicely, very pleasant this plane is, to say the least. The part I still don't get is the VOR/NAV button#2 I switched to NAV/VOR so the plane will followed the HDG direction, but I did not notice anything at all. I saw the amber light on the dash(VOR/NAV) and all, but I still didn't steer in any direction... I know that when the VOR/NAV is ON the plane follows that pink line on the Navigation system in my other planes...
The triangle knob, you mentioned it only moves an arrow but its kinda of hard to read in the dial...any thoughts?
Thanks.

  

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Reply #23 - Dec 24th, 2009 at 3:59pm
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I have something to add to the mods. In the Aircraft.cfg you need to find the [GPWS] section. The top is the original, the lower is the modified value. This will remove the "GLIDE SLOPE" or "PULL UP" warning (I forget which one it is now) when on approach.

[GPWS]
max_warning_height         =  1200
sink_rate_fpm              = -1500
excessive_sink_rate_fpm    = -2000
climbout_sink_rate_fpm     = -100
flap_and_gear_sink_rate_fpm= -100

[GPWS]
max_warning_height         =  1200
sink_rate_fpm              = -1500
excessive_sink_rate_fpm    = -2000
climbout_sink_rate_fpm     = -1000
flap_and_gear_sink_rate_fpm= -1000
  
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Reply #24 - Dec 24th, 2009 at 7:20pm
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Launchbury wrote on Dec 24th, 2009 at 3:59pm:
I have something to add to the mods. In the Aircraft.cfg you need to find the [GPWS] section. The top is the original, the lower is the modified value. This will remove the "GLIDE SLOPE" or "PULL UP" warning (I forget which one it is now) when on approach.

[GPWS]
max_warning_height         =  1200
sink_rate_fpm              = -1500
excessive_sink_rate_fpm    = -2000
climbout_sink_rate_fpm     = -100
flap_and_gear_sink_rate_fpm= -100

[GPWS]
max_warning_height         =  1200
sink_rate_fpm              = -1500
excessive_sink_rate_fpm    = -2000
climbout_sink_rate_fpm     = -1000
flap_and_gear_sink_rate_fpm= -1000



Thanks - I had forgotten that one!  I believe the words you're looking for are "DON'T SINK" Angry LOL 

Aircanada - I recommend that you google "VOR navigation" and read up on how the frequencies, radials etc. work.  Once you've got a handle on the basics, try flying to some VOR's for practice without the AP...after that you will be able to tell if the AP is doing what it is supposed to or not.

If you use my NAV/GPS button mod, the aircraft should follow your GPS trackline nicely (don't tell anyone, I do it a lot...)
  
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Reply #25 - Dec 24th, 2009 at 8:53pm
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Thanks Launchbury.

It'll be great to get rid of that warning when landing. It's so annoying.  Smiley

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Re: 727 Mods, Fixes & Instructions
Reply #26 - Dec 25th, 2009 at 8:55pm
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Oh yeah "don't sink" that's the one! Don't know how that one got by me. I can hear it clear as day now Smiley
  
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Reply #27 - Dec 26th, 2009 at 12:34am
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Hi again Matt.

Have you tested the EPR fix? Does it work with the performance charts?

I'v been testing and don't work properlly for me.

BTW, do you have a gauge for the TAT? I cant find one, so I'm trying to create one.
  

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Reply #28 - Dec 26th, 2009 at 1:17am
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I would like to know the relationship between our community mods and the updates in that came out in the new version 2.3 update. Is it the same changes and fixes, or is it something we should be comparing our work against to see which is superior?
  
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Reply #29 - Dec 26th, 2009 at 2:39am
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Fuel Flow fix:

The best information I can find gives the 727 a roughly 10,000 lbs/hour fuel burn. The default CS burns about 7,500 PPH. Find the following in aircraft.cfg

[GeneralEngineData]
engine_type= 1
Engine.0= -41.000, -8.960, 2.500
Engine.1= -48.000, 0.000, 2.500
Engine.2= -41.000, 8.960, 2.500
fuel_flow_scalar= 0.361
min_throttle_limit=-0.25
max_contrail_temperature = -30

Change the fuel flow scalar so the entry reads like this:

[GeneralEngineData]
engine_type= 1
Engine.0= -41.000, -8.960, 2.500
Engine.1= -48.000, 0.000, 2.500
Engine.2= -41.000, 8.960, 2.500
fuel_flow_scalar= 0.4344
min_throttle_limit=-0.25
max_contrail_temperature = -30
  
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Reply #30 - Dec 26th, 2009 at 6:21pm
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Thanks Launchbury!!!!
  

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Reply #31 - Dec 26th, 2009 at 8:01pm
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javiercuellar wrote on Dec 26th, 2009 at 12:34am:
Hi again Matt.

Have you tested the EPR fix? Does it work with the performance charts?

I'v been testing and don't work properlly for me.

BTW, do you have a gauge for the TAT? I cant find one, so I'm trying to create one.


Javier -

I haven't tried the EPR fix against anything official.  I use it just because it spreads out the EPR range on the gauge.

I'm  headed over to download the update and see what we've got in there!
  
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Reply #32 - Dec 26th, 2009 at 10:57pm
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Matt: Just to recap. I now am able to fly the 727-200 and freighter models, like you mentioned before, it was an activation issue... For some reason I installed it and did not activated it?! Huh

Second, I was able to use the NAV/VOR for a minute or so, when I was approaching Dallas Intl, last night, but I was off the runway by a bit... I am still understanding all of this, I was hoping this would be more easily... If I want to follow the pink line on the GPS, I have to use NAV/VOR ON and not heading on OFF position, correct? PLease don't be mad if you think I don't care enough to read all the manuals...  I find reading all the terms too complicated  Undecided

third, thanks!!
  

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Reply #33 - Dec 27th, 2009 at 2:20am
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Aircanada -

Yes, to follow your GPS plan you need:

- Autopilot ON
- Mode: NAV LOC (+Altitude Hold is OK too)
- Nav/GPS switch: GPS.

If you have it configured like this, and you are reasonably close to the pink line you should track it!

Glad you got that activation figured out!
  
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Reply #34 - Dec 27th, 2009 at 9:41pm
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alright it sounds good.. the Nav/GPS switch is the one you made available for download or is there already one in the cockpit? Cool
  

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Reply #35 - Dec 27th, 2009 at 10:45pm
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aircanadajet wrote on Dec 27th, 2009 at 9:41pm:
alright it sounds good.. the Nav/GPS switch is the one you made available for download or is there already one in the cockpit? Cool


No, you have to add it to the AP or GPS window by following my instructions...good luck!
  
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Reply #36 - Dec 28th, 2009 at 11:39pm
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Pleas wait! which instructions are you talking about? The knobology ones?  Embarrassed
  

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Reply #37 - Dec 29th, 2009 at 12:35am
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aircanadajet wrote on Dec 28th, 2009 at 11:39pm:
Pleas wait! which instructions are you talking about? The knobology ones?  Embarrassed


LOL - breathe into the paper bag...you will be OK Smiley

I meant some directions that are admittedly buried in my posts and download file. Here's what you need to do:

***To add the NAV/GPS button to the Autopilot window, replace the text for [window03] with the text below.  Note that this is for the 727-100 (passenger); the others will have a slightly different gauge00= line, so copy and paste the gauge00 line from what was there:

[Window03]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=427,130
position=2
visible=0
ident=10005
gauge00=Captain_Sim.p721.P12!P12_001_ap, 0,0, 427,106
gauge01=Cessna!Nav_GPS_Annunciator,                   400, 106, 24, 22
gauge02=Cessna!Nav GPS Switch,                          376, 106, 24, 22


or:

***To add the button to the GPS popup window, replace the text for [Window05] with the text below (will work on all versions):

[Window05]
size_mm=456,403
window_size=0.4
position=8
background_color=0,0,0
visible=0
ident=GPS_PANEL
gauge00=fs9gps!gps_500,0,25
gauge01=Cessna!Nav_GPS_Annunciator,                     400, 106, 24, 22
gauge02=Cessna!Nav GPS Switch,                          376, 106, 24, 22

Let me know if you run into any problems!
  
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Reply #38 - Dec 29th, 2009 at 1:22am
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omg is working!!!!!! thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Cheesy
  

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Reply #39 - Dec 30th, 2009 at 1:45pm
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Matt2218 wrote on Dec 21st, 2009 at 3:35pm:
I've gathered up the following Mods/Fixes/Instructions for the FSX 727 that have been identified by the FlightSim community:

- Autopilot Mod (by me)
- EPR Gauge Mod (code fix by Michael2, gauge compiled by me)
- VSI Gauge Fix (by me)
- Altimeter Fix (code fix by COL Bob Scott, gauges compiled by me)
- Flap Handle VC marking fix (by me)
- Fuel Crossfeed Instructions (written by JETPILOT)
- NAV/GPS Button Instructions (by me)

They are available in a zip here: http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=ee4d96516fc71160ab1eab3e9fa335ca5484252731ec8...

CaptainSim, if you want me to delete it I will...but I figured this would encourage folks to keep buying and flying the 727 until the next official update comes out.



Update:

With the release of version 2.3, most of my mods/fixes listed above are no longer applicable. The fixes that I am personally still using are:

- Revised altimeters ('rollover fix' eliminates ambiguous readings when altitude hold set at whole thousand-foot increments)
- MDA light fix (Square 'MDA' light shines when decision height reached)
- Nav/GPS button added to Autopilot 2D panel
- GPWS fix ( I set all warnings to chime at -1500 feet/minute or greater to eliminate "Don't Sink" on approach)
- JETPILOT's Fuel Crossfeed instructions still apply

I have put these items in a "727_Version_2.3_Mods" folder at the same link above and removed the old content.  If you have the altimeter & MDA light fixes from the old folder you should not need to download the new ones.

Happy New Year!
  
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Reply #40 - Dec 31st, 2009 at 6:23am
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Matt, should be -1000 feet, not -1500. Rates of descent over -1000fpm below 1000ft AGL are prohibited. That should give the most realistic performance.
  
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Reply #41 - Dec 31st, 2009 at 1:42pm
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Launchbury wrote on Dec 31st, 2009 at 6:23am:
Rates of descent over -1000fpm below 1000ft AGL are prohibited.


LOL I am in a heap of trouble then  Shocked

Frankly I just matched it to the other sinkrate numbers in the section...didn't think too much about whether it made any sense!

Anybody wanting realistic GPWS warnings should change the descent rates to reflect Launchbury's earlier in this thread:

[GPWS]
max_warning_height         =  1200
sink_rate_fpm              = -1500
excessive_sink_rate_fpm    = -2000
climbout_sink_rate_fpm     = -1000
flap_and_gear_sink_rate_fpm= -1000

Regardless, here's wishing everyone a "Granite Cloud Free" New Year!
Thanks!
  
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Reply #42 - Dec 31st, 2009 at 2:12pm
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Update:

With the release of version 2.3, most of my mods/fixes listed above are no longer applicable. The fixes that I am personally still using are:

- Revised altimeters ('rollover fix' eliminates ambiguous readings when altitude hold set at whole thousand-foot increments)
- MDA light fix (Square 'MDA' light shines when decision height reached)
- Nav/GPS button added to Autopilot 2D panel
- GPWS fix ( I set all warnings to chime at -1500 feet/minute or greater to eliminate "Don't Sink" on approach)
- JETPILOT's Fuel Crossfeed instructions still apply



Thanks!!!! This is important to have it up to date!!!!.

I will add to that list, the DME distance for Nav2.
http://www.captainsim.org/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1261617846
  

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Reply #43 - Dec 31st, 2009 at 3:14pm
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Javier -

Looks like they included your mod in 2.3.  On my system (2.3), the copilot's digital readout displays DME2.
  
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Reply #44 - Dec 31st, 2009 at 4:46pm
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lol, didn't realize it because I changed straight away without testing  Shocked.  Good to know.
  

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Reply #45 - Jan 1st, 2010 at 11:26pm
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My 727-100s and -200s no longer have duct pressure - yikes!  what happened??
  

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Reply #46 - Jan 12th, 2010 at 11:23am
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Had the same problem. duct pressure one day gone the next. I had to un-install the 727 and re-install version 2.3 which has fixed the problem Now I have to reinstall all of the mods.

Ian
  

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Reply #47 - Jul 11th, 2010 at 10:14pm
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Please, Matt2218 or anyone else could you please send me only the autopilot mod you have made?
or if you could tell me how you made it? the lines, etc,,,

If you could send me by email at toledo_fabio@hotmail.com I'd appreciate very much.
Thanks very much in advance.
  
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Reply #48 - Aug 13th, 2010 at 9:55pm
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Bump, for great justice.

All newcomers need to see this thread. Smiley
  
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Reply #49 - Aug 16th, 2010 at 1:17pm
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Do anybody have any idea of where to find EPR settings for the 727-200?
I know it's been discussed before but is there any fix for the EPR gauges? I recently flown a 737-200 simulator on an MCC course and we flew with a fixed mass and a fixed EPR value wich was 2.10, if i'm not wrong didnt the 732 and 722 have the same engines (or very similar)?
This is impossible with the 727 both N1 EGT and N2 are reading red.

I also have a problem with the low oil pressure lamps on the main panel.
They are not illuminated when engines are shutdown. They illuminates for just a second when the engine is started.
any ideas?
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Reply #50 - Aug 16th, 2010 at 5:16pm
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Can anybody make a mod for an Autolanding, I know the 727 never had one but I still need one. Or does anybody know where I can download this for the Autopilot?

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Reply #51 - Aug 17th, 2010 at 2:37am
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McCartney95 wrote on Aug 16th, 2010 at 5:16pm:
Can anybody make a mod for an Autolanding, I know the 727 never had one but I still need one. Or does anybody know where I can download this for the Autopilot?

Best Regards

Thereīs a file in FlightSim.com called " autolandjj.zip ". I havenīt tried it personally (and ever wonīt with 727 at least).
  
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Reply #52 - Sep 28th, 2017 at 6:17pm
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Where is the 727 auto pilot zip?
- Autopilot Mod (by me)
- EPR Gauge Mod (code fix by Michael2, gauge compiled by me)
- VSI Gauge Fix (by me)
- Altimeter Fix (code fix by COL Bob Scott, gauges compiled by me)
- Flap Handle VC marking fix (by me)
- Fuel Crossfeed Instructions (written by JETPILOT)
- NAV/GPS Button Instructions (by me)

They are available in a zip here: <File taken offline after version 2.4 released since it fixed most of the bugs>

CaptainSim, if you want me to delete it I will...but I figured this would encourage folks to keep buying and flying the 727 until the next official update comes out.

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