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hochwang Senior Member Offline live is full of surprises Posts: 322 Location: Germany Joined: Feb 18^th, 2006 Gender:	the other EADI ?? Jul 12^th, 2009 at 6:02am	Print Post
	Hi CS � Would be great we could have this kind off EADI in a next update � So we have a bit a diffrent in the Panel compare to the 757. And i think this one is mostly used in the 767`s. So PLEASE an update to this one .................. cheers Mario �

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Hammer Full Member Offline Posts: 64 Joined: Jun 7^th, 2009	Re: the other EADI ?? Reply #1 - Jul 12^th, 2009 at 11:54am	Print Post
	It is a very good question, because I would like to see my V Speeds and flap retract sppeds limits.

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767er91 Full Member Offline Posts: 19 Location: England, UK Joined: Jul 12^th, 2009	Re: the other EADI ?? Reply #2 - Jul 12^th, 2009 at 1:21pm	Print Post
	Hammer wrote on Jul 12^th, 2009 at 11:54am: But it is a very good question, because I would like to see my V Speeds and flap retract sppeds limits. Same here as well because then I won't have to guess when I need to reduce flaps!

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aal763 Full Member Offline Boeing Expert Posts: 182 Location: Wisconsin Rapids, WI Joined: Jan 19^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: the other EADI ?? Reply #3 - Jul 12^th, 2009 at 1:54pm	Print Post
	This was a carrier option when ordering the aircraft. �American Airlines does not have the speed tape EADI, but Delta does. �Anyway, another way to tell when to put the flaps down is to just memorize the maximum flap maneuvering speeds. Flaps 1 = 240kts. �or 250kts. with a 10kt. protection limit Flaps 5 = 220kts. �or 230kts. with a 10kt. protection limit Flaps 15 = 200kts. or 210kts. with a 10kt. protection limit Flaps 20 = 200kts. or 210kts. with a 10kt. protection limit Flaps 25 �= 170kts. or 180kts. with a 10kt. protection limit Flaps 30 = 160kts. or 170kts. with a 10kt. protection limit Note: These can change based on the Airline. Best Regards, Robert


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Hammer Full Member Offline Posts: 64 Joined: Jun 7^th, 2009	Re: the other EADI ?? Reply #4 - Jul 12^th, 2009 at 10:40pm	Print Post
	Would still rather have the speed tape Robert, but thanx for the notations.

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aal763 Full Member Offline Boeing Expert Posts: 182 Location: Wisconsin Rapids, WI Joined: Jan 19^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: the other EADI ?? Reply #5 - Jul 13^th, 2009 at 1:12am	Print Post
	I have to admit, the speedtape was always my favorite version of the EADI. Best Regards, Robert


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Captain Sim 2 CS Team Offline Posts: 5564 Joined: Nov 8^th, 2005	Re: the other EADI ?? Reply #6 - Jul 15^th, 2009 at 1:17pm	Print Post
	Various operators use various versions of the same aircraft so some characteristics may vary dramatically. In our product we have modelled one of the modifications. So please do not expect our model to be everything for everyone.

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767er91 Full Member Offline Posts: 19 Location: England, UK Joined: Jul 12^th, 2009	Re: the other EADI ?? Reply #7 - Jul 15^th, 2009 at 2:54pm	Print Post
	Captain Sim 2 wrote on Jul 15^th, 2009 at 1:17pm: Various operators use various versions of the same aircraft so some characteristics may vary dramatically. In our product we have modelled one of the modifications. http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/3323/adie.jpg So please do not expect our model to be everything for everyone. How is that a modification? I seen loads of cockpit photos of 767s with the newer EADI (Pegasus) and I believe that the newer EADI either became standard on later builds, or a huge majority of airlines (e.g. AAL, DAL) ordered that option whilst a small minority had the older style like the one above.

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hochwang Senior Member Offline live is full of surprises Posts: 322 Location: Germany Joined: Feb 18^th, 2006 Gender:	Re: the other EADI ?? Reply #8 - Jul 15^th, 2009 at 3:05pm	Print Post
	Hi CS � Thanks for reply...... But what means the picture ? Is that EADI with the new FD ( sorry don`t know the right name of it yet ) in a next update for the 767 ?? � If so it would be great and an other evidence for your fast support � cheers Mario �

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Hammer Full Member Offline Posts: 64 Joined: Jun 7^th, 2009	Re: the other EADI ?? Reply #9 - Jul 15^th, 2009 at 3:21pm	Print Post
	CS, please do not just blow this issue off: for me this updated EADI is a deal breaker.

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aal763 Full Member Offline Boeing Expert Posts: 182 Location: Wisconsin Rapids, WI Joined: Jan 19^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: the other EADI ?? Reply #10 - Jul 15^th, 2009 at 3:37pm	Print Post
	767er91, DAL and AAL both have the older style EADI.


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Hammer Full Member Offline Posts: 64 Joined: Jun 7^th, 2009	Re: the other EADI ?? Reply #11 - Jul 15^th, 2009 at 3:39pm	Print Post
	aal763 wrote on Jul 15^th, 2009 at 3:37pm: 767er91, DAL and AAL both have the older style EADI. I fail to understand why: without a speedtape, let alone an altitude tape like the 400s have, there is little advantage to the glass HSI over the old steam one.

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hochwang Senior Member Offline live is full of surprises Posts: 322 Location: Germany Joined: Feb 18^th, 2006 Gender:	Re: the other EADI ?? Reply #12 - Jul 15^th, 2009 at 4:05pm	Print Post
	But shure would be nice to see the Speedtape EADI in next updates... But the MOD in CS post is better than nothing � Mario �

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767er91 Full Member Offline Posts: 19 Location: England, UK Joined: Jul 12^th, 2009	Re: the other EADI ?? Reply #13 - Jul 15^th, 2009 at 5:09pm	Print Post
	aal763 wrote on Jul 15^th, 2009 at 3:37pm: 767er91, DAL and AAL both have the older style EADI. I thought they had. Maybe I was wrong.

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juniorpm21 Full Member Offline Posts: 30 Joined: Feb 19^th, 2007 Gender:	Re: the other EADI ?? Reply #14 - Jul 16^th, 2009 at 5:58pm	Print Post
	change it for the lvld eadi if you want...use the fspanel studio and make the change..save it and then have a nice flight...any way the v speeds are in the cdu/fmc anytime...


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Hammer Full Member Offline Posts: 64 Joined: Jun 7^th, 2009	Re: the other EADI ?? Reply #15 - Jul 16^th, 2009 at 6:24pm	Print Post
	Kinda hard to monitor v speeds on the CDU during the takeoff roll.

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Simpilot757 Ex Member	Re: the other EADI ?? Reply #16 - Jul 17^th, 2009 at 6:00am	Print Post
	I would also prefer the advanced EADI! I�ve been in Lufthansa Flight Training Full Flight Simulators of the 767-300 several times. Many airlines worldwide are using this simulator there. As this simulator has the speedtape EADI i think that more airlines are using this newer variant. Timo


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aal763 Full Member Offline Boeing Expert Posts: 182 Location: Wisconsin Rapids, WI Joined: Jan 19^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: the other EADI ?? Reply #17 - Jul 17^th, 2009 at 1:15pm	Print Post
	It would be nice to have it as an option in the ACE, where you could keep the older EADI or change to the newer speedtape EADI. Best Regards, Robert


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Tim Capps Senior Member Offline Defense Lawyer & US Navy JAG (ret), Writer Posts: 1070 Location: Southern Illinois Joined: May 21^st, 2009	Re: the other EADI ?? Reply #18 - Jul 17^th, 2009 at 1:51pm	Print Post
	I suspect one reason we have the 767 when we do is because they didn't start from scatch. I would like something different just to feel like I have something different, since the 757 is so similar to the 767 here. But it doesn't break my heart and I can see why CS may have done it this way. They establish their 767 as a good platform and I can see an expansion to a different airplane modeled. One with a compact upper EICAS and different PFD. Has CS ever done a gauge like that, with a tape?

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hochwang Senior Member Offline live is full of surprises Posts: 322 Location: Germany Joined: Feb 18^th, 2006 Gender:	Re: the other EADI ?? Reply #19 - Jul 18^th, 2009 at 8:01am	Print Post
	i will second that we should have the speedtape EADI because most Airlines are using it. And at all it makes a bit a difference if you use the 757 or the 767 Panel. So hope we can have it in a further update � cheers Mario �

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Ant1981 Full Member Offline Posts: 104 Joined: Dec 15^th, 2008	Re: the other EADI ?? Reply #20 - Jul 18^th, 2009 at 9:44am	Print Post
	Hammer wrote on Jul 16^th, 2009 at 6:24pm: Kinda hard to monitor v speeds on the CDU during the takeoff roll. Can't you remember a few V speeds and look at the IAS next to the EADI?

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767er91 Full Member Offline Posts: 19 Location: England, UK Joined: Jul 12^th, 2009	Re: the other EADI ?? Reply #21 - Jul 18^th, 2009 at 10:08am	Print Post
	Ant1981 wrote on Jul 18^th, 2009 at 9:44am: Hammer wrote on Jul 16^th, 2009 at 6:24pm: Kinda hard to monitor v speeds on the CDU during the takeoff roll. Can't you remember a few V speeds and look at the IAS next to the EADI? The V speed flags don't move in virtual cockpit view.

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Ant1981 Full Member Offline Posts: 104 Joined: Dec 15^th, 2008	Re: the other EADI ?? Reply #22 - Jul 18^th, 2009 at 10:16am	Print Post
	767er91 wrote on Jul 18^th, 2009 at 10:08am: Ant1981 wrote on Jul 18^th, 2009 at 9:44am: Hammer wrote on Jul 16^th, 2009 at 6:24pm: Kinda hard to monitor v speeds on the CDU during the takeoff roll. Can't you remember a few V speeds and look at the IAS next to the EADI? The V speed flags don't move in virtual cockpit view. Regardless.. ...Can't you *remember* a few V speeds and look at the IAS next to the EADI?

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Hammer Full Member Offline Posts: 64 Joined: Jun 7^th, 2009	Re: the other EADI ?? Reply #23 - Jul 18^th, 2009 at 11:30am	Print Post
	Ant1981 wrote on Jul 18^th, 2009 at 9:44am: Hammer wrote on Jul 16^th, 2009 at 6:24pm: Kinda hard to monitor v speeds on the CDU during the takeoff roll. Can't you remember a few V speeds and look at the IAS next to the EADI? No.

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Tim Capps Senior Member Offline Defense Lawyer & US Navy JAG (ret), Writer Posts: 1070 Location: Southern Illinois Joined: May 21^st, 2009	Re: the other EADI ?? Reply #24 - Jul 19^th, 2009 at 3:11am	Print Post
	We should have speed bugs in the VC, even if you have to swtich to the 2D panel to set them (where you do have them).

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