Looking for a little peer-to-peer support.

I am testing the autolanding.  I have not made any modifications; this is a recent download.

I find that it works well, but have a couple of questions.

1.  I notice the airplane is a little "lively" on approach, but not so much that I find it odd.  It seems like a natural aerodynamic effect, definitely not seeking behavior by the autopilot.  It just doesn't come down on rails like most planes.  Does this sound like the swimming effect people have noted?

2.  Flare.  Every autolanding is flat as a pancake.  They aren't hard by any means, there just isn't any flare.  Has this ever been acknowledged or fixed by anyone?

Thanks for any input.

MoD1987 wrote on Jun 6^th, 2009 at 12:44pm:




I never perform a full autoland on this aircraft for that reason. i always do the flare manually, because i use FSpassengers also and the tires blow in every landing.

If it is of your interest i did post a little tutorial about performing a flare in this 757 check this:

http://www.captainsim.org/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1243029473

SIR_PAGANINY wrote on Jun 6^th, 2009 at 9:48pm:



I haven�t said it works for me... i also use Fspassengers, and my tires blow most of the time if i use the autoland to flare... i still use the autoland except to flare... i will try the 757-300 to know if it happens to flare well as it happens with you as well.

regards

Hey guys hoping for a little bit of advice

I have performed a number of autopilot full flight and landings with great success, even being able to achieve a flare on a number of occasions. �However, the past two flights I have performed (EGCC to EGPH) the landing is not working.

The problem seems to be that when I hit the "LOC" and "APP" command buttons, the autopilot fails to intercept the localiser correctly, with the 3 Autopilot lights failing to light up (only the 1 I pressed stays activated). �It seems to descent in line with ILS approach charts however the landing is off to the right of the runway so that I end up landing on the grass or into trees.

I was wondering if it was anything to do with the IRS alignment but I am not sure how I would identify this. �Im pretty sure that I have been entering the correct GPS position into the FMC so I'm pretty much out of ideas on how to fix this problem.

Would it also be possible that there is an error in the FMC data or something. �I have the most up to date AIRAC data installed as well.

Any suggestions would be much appreciated.

Cheers
Neil Riddell

When I make an autoland I always press the LOC button first before the Approach Button. All three CMD Lights light up then but the aircraft does not flare correctly.

LOC is the first one to be pressed just because it is the first one to be captured, however if you already captured GS you may press APP first because APP it's LOC & GS in one...

The reason why pilots may choose to press LOC and APP individually its due the fact of certain situations, one may need or want to perform a particular path prior engaging LOC or APP for good approach reasons.

300 VS will not break your air plane but it's not the most comfortable landing for sure, and if that is the best you can get with an autoland it means something still needs the company attention, in this case the Captain Sim attention.  I had experiences with the aircraft performing a dive of death while on autoland to correct it's descent rate, and therefore no time at all to flare.. in fact only time to crash.

When doing an autoland to what and when should the auto throttle speed be set?

Dennis G

I am working throught the manuals.  It isn't that hard, really, and it is really essential.

Is there or is there not speed control on approach like Airbus has, where the speed is reduced as flaps are extended, and eventually to the vref?  I'm thinking but just thought I'd check while I'm still going through the manuals on other stuff.

When you are reporting an intermittent problem, it makes it really hard to troubleshoot based on what we have before us.

Is it just the one airport?  If I were having this problem, I would be trying many different airports to see if there was something odd about the one.  It can be as simple as reading the wrong chart, which would result in the wrong ILS frequence if you were doing it manually.

If I tried several different airports and it worked fine, then I would conclude there was a problem with the one airport and either avoid it or try to figure out what is going on.

If you are having the same problem no matter where you fly, then roll back to when it was you were having great success.  Is it possible you are doing something different?  Have you made any changes to your system since then?

If you are a very experienced simmer with these kinds of aircraft, then you can fake it pretty good, but you are going to have to use the manual to get serious.  I printed out 2,3 and 5 and studied the others on screen.  2 is your expanded checklist that has the steps you need to be following.  3 is technical stuff that you probably need to know.  5 is your FMS.  It is 99 pages long, but mostly in outline form with illustrations.  It isn't really a huge task to print out and is relatively easy on ink cartridges.

Screen shots would help, if you can do that.

Are you obtaining your charts and following them?  How far out are you intercepting the extended centerline of the runway?  What speed and flap setting? Do you have LOC button pushed, correct frequency and course set for ILS?  Does LOC appear on your PDF?  Does it turn green?  We have to figure out where in the whole sequence things are getting messed up for you.

I have been flying this bird for about 3 weeks, yea, I'm a new but converted CS 757 jock. �Anyway the first time I used Autoland, the plane hit the runway hard. �I was suprised not to see a crash scene. �When I looked at the external view, every one of the doors, access panels, and even the engine cowls were open. �I couldnt get them closed. �I think it was just a animation issue as I never did get any of the door warning lights in the cockpit. �Anyone else ever see this?