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How are Frame Rates
May 21st, 2009 at 5:22am
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I loved the old version, and have to admit I'm drooling over this one.  But after the way the 2008 Maddog VC hit my FPS after their FSX port, I'm wondering what frame rates people are getting.

I have a Dell XPS430 (2.5 core 2 quad, 6 gig ram, upgraded power, Nvidia GeForce 9800 GT).  After cleaning up with Alacrity and locking my FPS at 25 via nHancer, I can get a solid 25 at big airports with 60% X Traffic in the another company, but I consider the Maddog's VC unusable due to the frame rate hit (although it works fine with VC disabled and has a great 2-D panel).

I have heard the 727 is not patched up to the level of the 757, so am looking for opinions on frame rates and overall bugginess or lack thereof.
  

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Re: How are Frame Rates
Reply #1 - May 21st, 2009 at 7:53am
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In terms of visuals, this 727 is a bit better of the 757. (in terms of lightning for example)

Regarding the Frame rate, with your config, you'll have not any problems !
  

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Re: How are Frame Rates
Reply #2 - May 22nd, 2009 at 12:54am
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Confirm frame rates good, drop-dead gorgeous.
  

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Reply #3 - Jun 5th, 2009 at 10:06pm
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The visual representation of the virtual cockpit and passenger cabin is simply stunning. There are many great add-ons out there, but none have a virtual cockpit that looks as good as the CS 727. My framerates are the same as any of the default FSX aircraft.
  

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Reply #4 - Jun 6th, 2009 at 12:18am
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Same here,
amazingly beautiful with very good frame rates!!

love this aircraft!!

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Reply #5 - Jun 13th, 2009 at 1:26pm
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I get better framerates than the default 747.
  
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Reply #6 - Jun 16th, 2009 at 6:58am
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Hello 727 freaks

I cant not share your statements, my frames are low in the VC, is there a option I can turn on/off to get better performance?

Just for comparsion: In the same situation I get following frames with planes:
CS 727 Pro : 21
MD11 another company: 35
MD80 another company:42
DA PA31: 39

So could there be something wrong???

Thanks for any feedback?
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Re: How are Frame Rates
Reply #7 - Jun 16th, 2009 at 4:56pm
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Only places where I've had problems was JFK, and that was cause another company's Manhattan X was looming in the distance  Grin

Exterior is silky-smooth and interior is a bit jumpy for me, but my system is (sadly) outdated now...  And it's only 6 months old, lol.

PS- if you have the 757, you should find the 727 a TON better  Wink
  

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Re: How are Frame Rates
Reply #8 - Jun 20th, 2009 at 5:22am
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McDaniel wrote on Jun 16th, 2009 at 6:58am:
Hello 727 freaks

I cant not share your statements, my frames are low in the VC, is there a option I can turn on/off to get better performance?

Just for comparsion: In the same situation I get following frames with planes:
CS 727 Pro : 21
MD11 other: 35
MD80 other:42
DA PA31: 39

So could there be something wrong???

Thanks for any feedback?
McDaniel


That looks about right to me as far as frame rates go.  You don't say where or what stage of flight.  If 21 is the worst you are getting, what's the problem?  Is it not smooth?

I get around 20 at a big airport with 70% Traffic X with the 757.  Works for me.  FPS is just a number.  What matter is how it is performing for you.  MD-80 is going to be sky-high with FPS, but compare the vcs between the two.  I love that MD-80, but everything is a trade-off.
  

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Reply #9 - Sep 22nd, 2009 at 7:25pm
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I get around 39 Locked at 40 in the FSX.cfg file...Outside my local scenery addon which kills my frames. All in all I'm satisfied.

Although the rate of tuen in the v/c view needs some adjusting...It takes for ever to turn and draw ( have to hold the buttom for a little while) Before it reacts.
  

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Frame rates on the 727
Reply #10 - Dec 14th, 2009 at 12:20am
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Hi Chaps, just bought the 727-100/200 outfit - very classy.... sadly, hammers frame rates, though. There's all sorts of advice on tweaking it, but on my system, which aint brilliant...

Processor Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz
Graphics NVIDIA GeForce 9300 GS with 256 on board
Gaming graphics 1535 MB Total available graphics memory
Primary hard disk 700GB Free (922GB Total)
Windows 7 32 bit O/S
19" LG LCD panel on DVi at 1400 x 900

1) look at the pre-loaded applications running in the background in the task pane/panel. EXIT those you don't need - you'd be suprised what is running that you don't need.

2) In Windows Vista and 7 especially, dump out of the "aero" themes - very pretty, but chews the performance. Check on the 'net for the best way to do this for your O/S.

On the system above with most graphics sliders on "medium", live weather and full traffic, I get 22-26 FPS on or near the ground and around clouds, 34 - 40 at altitude - set your FPS in FSX to "unlimited" and in your graphics card settings use your equivalent of "let the application decide"... use the Sitka approach mission as your bench mark to twiddle your graphics settings... you might have to live without some of the eye candy like special effects and auto gen scenery, sea, ground and airport traffic. What you really want is extremely high settings for ground texture, detailed clouds, but limit the draw distance, and medium water settings... I think you'll find it pretty enough... on finals, or taxiing, zoom in on your 3D panel a little - showing fewer gauges on the screen will give you a Frame or two extra.

Incidentally, I'm thinking seriously of upgrading my grahics card... recommendations?

Drew M
  
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Re: Frame rates on the 727
Reply #11 - Dec 14th, 2009 at 1:52am
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I have the same processor, but i have an 8800GT. I don't have problems with framerates.

You should do 2 things:

1) Overclock your processor (Try 3.4 or 3.6, like me)

2) A new graphic card ASAP!
  
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Re: Frame rates on the 727
Reply #12 - Dec 14th, 2009 at 2:06am
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I don't think a new card would really satisfy your woes. FSX is a very processor intensive game. You could slap the very greatest graphics card into your rig and you wouldn't get much of a boost. Long story short, you need a new computer with an Intel i7 if you want to really tear up the virtual skies. However, for your situation if you want a slight boost, get rid of all that traffic!  You only need probably 30%. Also make sure vehicle traffic is off, and turn down autogen density.
  
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Reply #13 - Dec 14th, 2009 at 4:39pm
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I agree with Launchbury and cyberstudio. You need more CPU speed and at least a 512mb video card. I am running:

* WinXP Home SP3 * INTEL Core™ 2 Duo E8400 3.0GHz oc'd @ 3.85 GHz * ASUS Maximus Formula Intel X38 * CORSAIR 2GB (2 x 2GB) XMS2 PC2-8500 DDR2 * XigmaTek HDT-S1283 * BFG GeForce GTS 250 OC 1GB * WESTERN DIGITAL 500GB * WESTERN DIGITAL 250GB * ANTECH Nine Hundred Case * PC Power & Cooling S75QB 750W 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply * SAMSUNG SyncMaster™ 931BF LCD Monitor * Saitek X52 * FSX Setup FS-GS *

and with this I don't see any FPS hit at all in FSX with the 727 or the C-130. In fact, they don't cause anymore FPS hit the the default FSX 737.
  
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Re: How are Frame Rates
Reply #14 - Dec 26th, 2009 at 11:37am
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Looking for some advice. Have recently purchased the 727. Having all sorts of problems. Parked at gate with nothing happening - getting frames rates of 4... Computer a few months old and top of the line. Windows 7 64 bit. Everything else screams on this computer. I can run FSX on max setiings and runs well but no joy with the 727. have downloaded both SP1 & Sp2 for FSX. Have read everything I can find & asked Capt Sim, all to no avail. Appreciate any advice.


cmpbllsjc wrote on Dec 14th, 2009 at 4:39pm:
I agree with Launchbury and cyberstudio. You need more CPU speed and at least a 512mb video card. I am running:

* WinXP Home SP3 * INTEL Core™ 2 Duo E8400 3.0GHz oc'd @ 3.85 GHz * ASUS Maximus Formula Intel X38 * CORSAIR 2GB (2 x 2GB) XMS2 PC2-8500 DDR2 * XigmaTek HDT-S1283 * BFG GeForce GTS 250 OC 1GB * WESTERN DIGITAL 500GB * WESTERN DIGITAL 250GB * ANTECH Nine Hundred Case * PC Power & Cooling S75QB 750W 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply * SAMSUNG SyncMaster™ 931BF LCD Monitor * Saitek X52 * FSX Setup FS-GS *

and with this I don't see any FPS hit at all in FSX with the 727 or the C-130. In fact, they don't cause anymore FPS hit the the default FSX 737.

  
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