I have not been successful with manual start until after the first autostart.

I never have noticed anything change that I didn't set correctly in the first place, but until recently the checklists manual was not completed.  It has been released in previous days, and I'm eager to give it a try.  If it works, I'm going to make videos about it.

Now I am confused.  It appears, according to Bob, that you have to start it with auto start first, then shut it down and then start it manually for it to work.  Is that correct?  If so that doesn't seem useful.  Although, markab did not mention this as a problem.

MSW,

What I was saying is that before I had access to the checklists (recently released) I could not fathom what I was doing incorrectly to keep from getting the start valves to open, but once I used Control-E once, I could always start the plane after that.

I have not yet had the opportunity to try since the checklists were released.

THBatMan8 wrote on Mar 7^th, 2009 at 8:58pm:


Thank you!  I'll sure check that out.  Maybe that will fix my Alt Hold switch not working too.
That is the main pain that I'm dealing with.  A side from that this 727 is working beautiful.
I can land this better than any plane I have.

One other little thing.  I notice that the reversers won't cause this 727 to back up.
The "727 Flight Master" book says that this is something that it should do and covers how to do it properly.  I wonder if the reversers should be made stronger?

Bob

dougal wrote on Mar 9^th, 2009 at 9:19pm:



The problem is not with Captain Sim's 727, the problem is that it is not very compatible with FSUIPC.  Dispite this, I like to use FSUIPC registered version to set up all of my controllers.
This is causing the fuel cutoff switches on the pedestal not to work.  It may also be what is causing my ALT HOLD switch not to work.
I have found a way to do the startup procedure without using the cutoff switches on the pedestal.  I leave those switches on all the time and use the fuel cutoff switches on the engineer's panel.  They still work good and I can do a normal startup procedure using them instead.
I can see a developer building a sim that doesn't use FSUIPC or need it.  But I can't see why a developer would release a sim that is not compatible with such a popular utility.
I can't fault Captain Sim for that though.  He has built a beautiful 727 with the intentions of it using the default FSX program.
He did build the 757 to use FSUIPC so it does seem strange though.

Ok, I got it figured out now with the help of FSUIPC support.
There is nothing wrong with Captain Sim's gorgeous 727 series.  The fuel cutoff switches were locked up because they are set with "Mixture1 Rich, Mixture1 Idle" etc. and the same with #2 and #3.

I went into FSUIPC program and set those to the buttons below my throttle levers on my CH throttle and they work Perrrfect now.  I can start up my engines like a pro.

If you see that you can't start the 727 with the procedure and need to Ctrl+E, just reload the plane.  It will work perfect then.  For some reason sometimes it doesn't load right the first time.  Probably more of an issue with FSX itself.

It might be a good idea after you select it in the setup and it loads up at the airport, to just reload it again through the menu at the top.  First shut down the engines then just reload it.
That way it should be ready to start up following the procedure.

Now I only have one other little problem to figure out and it is not Captain Sim's fault either.
My ALT HOLD switch is locked up and it did work at one time.  I figure the problem is probably similar to the fuel cutoff switches.

Bob

*BUMP*

I think I found the issue with the engines and it isn't FSUIPC surprisingly. If you change the fuel load in the manifolds you need to double check the flight engineer's panel as I've found that the panel changes when you change fuel loads. Make sure that the APU Generator is connected to the sync bus. Also, check that the Bus Tie Breaker and Generator Field Relay switches for all three engines indicate closed. The Generator Breaker Light can be ignored until you fire up the engines because when you connect the IDG to it's bus it will disconnect the APU generator from the sync bus. Then run through the engine start checklist making sure that the appropriate galley items are load sheeded and the engines should fire up without any issues.