Thanks very much for the product. �
I programmed the FMC but when I engage the auto-pilot, above 1000ft, using the VNAV and LNAV, it seems it is not following the route (e.g. EEDF-EDDV, EGCC-EGLL). �I have other product 767 and 747 and the FMC works on them perfectly alright. �I cannot understand why it is not working on the Captain Sim product. �What I am doing wrong? �I thought that with the 767, 747 and 757 the FMC would be all the same procedure.


Any advice would be appreciated.

Mo

hamter wrote on Apr 12^th, 2008 at 12:52pm:



Thanks for the reply
Yes I did set the align to the IRS to NAV mode but sitll not working.

It has to be something that you are doing wrong because mine follows a route perfectly.  In fact I went into the FMC/CDU LEGS page and changed my speed/altitude settings and VNAV followed that perfectly also.  I was very impressed.

Works perfectly now �:)

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Hey Cameron, try using the "copy rte" FMC fuction and setup for two different approaches from the same star during cruise...a good pilot is prepared for any contingency...including "clueless" controllers who can't tell which way the wind is blowing!


Bob

It depends on the the last star waypoint. I know your going to hate to hear this, but you've got to have the chart for the particular star you are flying...you can get just about any US chart at Airnav.com there is usually a waypoint that says "expect to cross [waypoint name] at such & such [altitude] (with or without a speed restriction) copy that info into your legs page. That should give you enough time to setup for any runway approach since that waypoint is designed so you're at the right altitude and speed for vectors to final to any of the arrival airport's runways. I'm over simplifying this a bit so if you have more questions I'd be happy to help again.

Happy Trails!

Bob

After entering all of my data in the FMC, I tell the system to save the route, I enter a name such as KMCOKATL and press the key corresponding to save. I get File Save Failure. Any Clues?

Ohh, Good catch.
Ill disable UAC, its irritating anyways.

I dont autotune the frequencies.

On the DEP/ARR page, you have the option, which I highly suggest you use to install an approach. For example Flying to LAX from the east you would use CIVET5 (its now RIVVR1, but whatever), which will guide you from either TNP (Twenty Nine Palms) or HEC (Hector) to the vor CIVET. Normally the ATC will give you instructions like Descend and maintain 3000 until on glide slope expect vectors RWY25R. You will select ILS25R in the DEP/ARR page after being given these instructions. Close the route, basically if you see a line that says ROUTE DISCONTINUITY with a bunch of boxes, click on the LSK (line select key) for the vor below the discontinuity and click the LSK for the empty line. this will close the route. Check your APP REF page again. You can also get the ILS and HDG from the map in flight simulator, click on the airport you are arriving at and go from there, the only weakness is that they dont give GSIA (glide slope intercept Altitude).

I check flightaware.com and look a common routes between airports, and simroutes.com. I use Vroute and it will save a flight plan. I do not use FSX flight planner as I find it sub par. I do not use the ATC either. FS has a bad habit of being 5 minutes behind. It has caused some funky issues like a 747 trying to land on top of me! The CS 757 has a far better radar and TCAS than apparently the ATC does!

I belive that flight simulator is fairly accurate vs. the published FAA airport information regarding TDZE.

Hello.
i haved the same proplem when i did a flight to KAI TAK
not in the 757 in anthoer aircraft,
vhhx is not in data base because we all know that KAI TAK was closed on 1990 i think,its easy actually,dont put vhhx because it dosent exist
put vhhh and when you come near KAI TAK do a visual landing.
and yeah the landing and the weather in hong kong really it dont help KAI TAK at all

Dear Aussie,



Thanks mate, will give it a whirl!

Alex

Our navdata format description can be found at  this document

Dear Aussie,

When u get the SID/Stars data figured out for VHHX give us a shout would ya . That advice u gave me worked like a charm! Cheers!

Alex

Just started flying CS757 FSX pro-pack.  Every thing is working pretty well but a few things.  Key thing that bugs me is when I put in new altitude on the MCP and press FLCH, nothing happens.  I've been using V/S to start the plane up or down to the new altitude.

What am I doing wrong?

Carolus, �at DEP/ARR page ignore all strings with ILS/BRG_RWY No. Scroll down to runway numbers and choose one (appropriate). �Then runway will appear on both: CDU Leg page & ND (with its ILS frequency & course at CDU Approach Ref page).

It is more about how CS FMC handles existing database.
Anyway check further Navipraph updates �

Meanwhile you can download terminal procedures for CS B757 here:
http://planepath.com/cgi-bin/countdown.cgi?CaptSim_Procedures_0812.exe

Regards,
El

It works.
Pass all ILS_RWYs with PAGE DOWN button to runway numbers at the bottom of the list and choose your 09R:



Don't select any STAR - their import doesn't function properly yet. If you wish you can enter points manually (remove discontinuity and activate).
Now 09R appears with its vector on LEGS page:



Now check Approach REF page - you will find both: ILS frequency and course of 09R:



Using EFIS panel swich ND to PLAN mode and scroll with LEGS page to the end of your flight plan to ensure that 09R is shown properly on ND.

Good luck!
El

Hello Elyab,

Thanks for the link to Terry's Data base. I have downloaded it already.
What I knew is that  he mostly has the nav data for US and UK only, not for Europe.
I'll give it a try.

Thanks anyway.

Regards,

Carolus

Arrival Airport won.t show up in LEG view and on the ND.
I followed the 757 tutorial, but select for flight: KSEA-KPDX . Also I'm not able to Delete a whole flight and start over again with airplane still on ground. How do I get (load) a Picture in here? Happy New Year to All. Herb

Aircraft open with a saved route in CDU, How to delete it in the CDU? I can't get a fresh start. Herb

Hi,

Wait for the introduction of the Navigraph's database. CS work with Navigraph for that and they will be available in few weeks.

All the best

I use FSbuild and then IMport the FP to the CDU. That way FSBUILD automaticly enters the SID STARS Waypoints into the CDU.

Is anyone else having a problem with the 4.2 version while loading FS flightplans through the FMS Route page?
When I push the LSL6 button to load the FS flight plan, FSX crashes instantly.

I have the airport itself and runways on my database, but not the SID/STARS.

Why can I not get the STAR to show up on the ND the route is there  but not the STAR is there something I am doing wrong?  This is the captin sim 757 fsx  I have used the another company in the past and it always was there right down to the runway.

You can always fly a STAR according to an approach chart. Or, like what I did, I went on to an aircraft which had the STARS, copied down all the waypoint LAT/LON coordinates and added them on my CAPTAINSIM aircraft as waypoints. Once you add the grids, you can edit the particular altitude for each waypoint. When you review your route, it looks just as good as the regular STARS. That is how I fly the Kai Tak IGS 13 approach into Hong Kong for the time being until someone adds the STARS and SIDS  for Kai Tak.

I tested the 757 4.3 with a KLAX2KLAS flight. The terminal procedure CLARR2 appeared on the CDU. When selected and executed, the procedure wasn't reflected in the flight path. It just showed DAG to LAS.

Anybody else with STAR problem? 

Regards

Mtan

I had a lot of problems last night with a flight from KSFO to KLAX.I used the PORTE3 dep with AVE as the transition than a SADDE6 arrival into LAX.I programmed the fmc and all was fine till I tried to put in the arrival at LAX as you have to cross SYMON at 12000 and everytime I put in the waypoint it would not accept it.The fmc would not even accept the runway assignment of 24L.The FMC would not put the waypoints in for anything after AVE.I have the new Navgraph data installed.Right before arriving at AVE was told to do a 360 due to LAXCTR was not taking the handoffs and the LNAV would not go into heading mode so a heading change could be done and I would disconnect the AP and the heading hold would not disconnect so I could change to a new heading.Any ideas on what is up?

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JayG

I'm experiencing the same problem here. Just bought 4.3 release, expecting it would do well with Navigraph.

It seems there is a real big error as when you choose your STAR it happens the same problem you reported.

When you try to fill the discontinuity you miss all approach as also the T/D point.

We really need some help here from CS Support!

Regards

Schmid

It is really a disappointment that a plane with so many good attributes fails to achieve real usefulness with its FMC/CDU. �My inexperience coupled with what I assume are real failures in the FMC/CDU leave little incentive to continue to use these features. I've spent too many hours learning and trying to use a faulty system. Hopefully CS will find a solution that will allow the FMC/CDU to create plans that work on all PC configurations and MS operating systems.

I have had one successful flight plan and several unsuccessful ones. The successful plan was at a cruising altitude below 10,000 ft and included a STAR. Legs included ascent, cruise levels and descent. VNAV and LNAV lights stayed on and descent altitudes and speeds were achieved.

Many plans produced legs without descending altitudes. Any plan at a cruising altitude over 10,000 ft, such as 15,000 would not fly higher than 10,000 ft, even though the original fsx plan and the legs in the FMC showed 15,000 ft levels. Perhaps the 10,000 ft level that intially appears in the altitude window limits what the altitude the FMC can control, but to this inexperienced person that seems wrong. If that window is manually set to 15,000 ft prior to flying the plan the plane will fly to the 15,000 ft level in the plan, but other lower altitudes in the plan are not followed. VNAV gets turned off and SPD turns on. But then not all the leg speeds are initiated and any lower plan altitudes are not followed even though a T/D point exists.

CS757 v4.2 with fsuipc v4.3 gave problems and now CS757 v4.3 with fsuipc v4.4 gives the problems described above. My system uses Vista 32 bit and has both sp1 and sp2 installed.

One more:

While on cruise level, flying at .801M FL310, I was checking the flightplan.

Then I changed predicted speed at short final - it was set to a (high) 190 knots and I set it to 150 knots.

When I made it, all speeds at the waypoints changed from .801M to 298 knots. It did not affected my cruise speed as I'm still flying at .801M (306 knots) but CDU information is no more correct.

I was not able to change it back as also ENG OUT and LRC keys seem not to be simulated.

Does anybody else checked it?

Schmid

Hammer

I'd humbly classify myself as a reasonably experienced simmer. I have also the most famous/important add-ons, like 744, MD11, 763, 73x, E-Jets, Airbuses and so on, so using FMS, FMC, CDU or wathever they are called is not really a challenge for me.

So, answering to you, YES, I'm having some problems here with this aircraft, that I have not seen at the other Boeing add-ons, whose FMCs are similar.

Regards

Schmid

Well, let's see if the problem is reproducable. �I have flown four plans, the first four from World's 100 Busiest Airports. �Sao Paolo Brazil to Santa Cruz, Colubia, then to Bogota, then to Mexico City and from there to Houston. �Some have included some fairly complicated procedures, including holds, and conditional fixes, e.g. fly runway heading to 9200' then turn.

I have not had one problem with the FMC doing anything but exactly what is supposed to do. �In fact, it seems particularly convenient, functional and robust to me. �So all I'm saying is that in a variety of routes in two hemispheres, the FMC is a solid part of at least the version I got.

If you provide a complete route that you have been unable to fly successfully, I would be happy to try it out.

I am using the latest Navigraph data.

There are just too many weird problems being reported that don't make any sense. �Al Bradbury over at Avsim reported he was having problems until he did an uninstall and fresh reinstall of FSX. �I'm not advocating anything so drastic here, but I don't see how it can be a problem with the airplane if it works find for some people.

So if someone wants to shoot me a (preferably shorter) route, let me see what happens.

ADDITIONAL:  The FMC is pretty complicated.  It does a lot.  If you are creating routes in another program and importing to FSX, then importing that to your FMC... I notice that there are some routes that work with SIDs and STARs, and some that (realistically) sort of leave you hanging because they are going to vector you.  I also notice that you might have to work with a route, with a STAR, to get it the way you want it.

For example, I just planned KIAH to KMIA.  On the procedure chart and in the FMC both, the SID just starts several miles from the airport.  That means you are to expect them to tell you how to get there, I believe.  Other charts will actually show you turn here, pick up that radial, whatever, all the way from the runway, but this one doesn't and we must live with that.

And at the other end of the route, both the chart and the STAR in the FMC kind of dump me without a route to a particular runway.  Again, I'm expected to get vectors.  I think realistically, some airports are just that way.  I made a route myself that will take me right to the runway where I can pick up the localizer, based on the approach plate for 8R, but that isn't exactly realistic for this particular airport, I believe.  In other words, I created a made-up STAR to avoid messing with ATC (because this is FSX and I can!)

For my alternate route, everything is the same, expect it follows the real procedure, which dumps me and makes me follow ATC.  In both I've added altitude and speed restrictions, and multpile holds, just to see what happens.

I think sometimes you can do a route dump from FSX with not problem.  Other times you are going to run into challenges that aren't necessarily unrealistic.  When you are starting from another program to begin with, I don't know.  I'm just thinking out loud here, and will fly this route tomorrow, since I have to get up to go to work in about five hours.

But I've been thinking, Mr. Schmid, and if your engines are stuck at 300 kts like you report, you obviously have something FUBAR with your installation.  I wouldn't expect the FMC to work.

I am beginning to think that we are seeing trouble reports from people who have installation problems and/or operator error.  I have been studying this airplane intensely for several days (I have to) and I am still learning a lot.  This is a self-selected group and it is impossible to make a judgment on the product.  IF even one person is getting it to work right here, that tells me we can't just say the FMC doesn't work.

If the FMC turns out to be garbage, I'll be the first to say so.  However, I respectfully submit that we owe to ourselves to not be premature about this.

I have a problem with the FMC and flight plans.  I will explain the process that I use and tell me if anything I do is wrong.  The problem is the departure (SID).  I take off and fly the SID fine, but in the FMC, it says ROUTE DISCOUNTINUTY, even though from the finishing point of the SID I have a waypoint that is Direct from the finishing point of the SID to the next waypoint.  So here is what I do: 1) I go to this site (http://rfinder.asalink.net/free/) and I use the route it provides to me.  2) I manually enter the route into the FMC. (first loading the whole route and then SID and STAR).  3) I fly the SID, but the FMC says route discontinuity though I programed a direct route from the ending point of the SID to the next waypoint (it is DIRECT).  ANY HELP WOULD BE APPRECIATED!  Thanks!

Any time I have seen a route discontinuity (they're not uncommon when you're programming your FMC) that means there is an actual disconnect somewhere. �You know about setting the view to PLAN and stepping through your flight plan on the LEGS page? �Once you find the disco, click on the waypoint below it to copy it into the scratchpad, then click on the disco to close it up.

It helps to know what is going on behind the scenes when you are programming your FMC. �For instance, when you say you are putting in a route, are you using the "via-to" method and inputing airways on the route page, or doing them all direct on the route page, or adding them on the legs page directly?

Keep in mind that outside routes may be produced with different AIRACs. �Have you downloaded and installed the latest from Navigraph? �If you want up-to-date navdata and procedures, many manufacturers require this; Navigraph charges a small fee for this service (one of several they offer).

It is your responsibility as pilot to make sure your route makes sense and there are no problems. �Are you downloading your airport diagrams for taxiing, your SIDs and your STARs and runway approaches and comparing them to your FMC data?

I sometimes have to tinker with routes until I am satisfied with them. �Usually. �There is a learning curve to this. �People think the 757 Captain is just a pretty bit of fluff. �Wrong. �The FMC is complicated.

Jim's approach is a good one. �He's working with the system, trying to figure things out. �That's what it takes.

I'll just tell you quickly (I need to get back to work) how I do it.

I program the FMC on the route page using airways, like UM221 on the left "via" side to wherever I am getting off that airway, which will be a fix, like SEXXY. �All the waypoints along that route are entered automatically, and I can see them on the LEG page. �When I know what runway I'm taking off from, I'll put in the SID (finding the right one for my route by looking on SIDs I get from AirNav or someplace). �There may be some duplication, so I go through and delete and mess with until it all looks right to me. �Sometimes it is all perfect right from the start; sometimes I have to tinker.

If you have a good idea what runway you are going to land on, put that in, too, and the STAR. �Again, I go through the same process as for the SID. �As I mentioned earlier, sometimes they will leave you hanging for ATC, sometimes they will roll out the red carpet for you right to the runway threshhold.

Ideally, you should have your STAR showing on your PLN display in front of you, with your runway and missed approach already put in. �The MAP will usually look like a racetrack somewhere off the to side of the airport.

Make sure your altitude constraints match up with your published documents, and don't consider yourself finished until you know your route is correct, have fixed any discos, etc. etc.

Now, let's say your cruise is 30,000 feet, Jim. �You are going to get something less than that from ATC when you get clearance, say 6000 feet. �That's what you set your altitude to. �VNAV will take you up that far and hold, switching to SPEED. �When you are cleared to go higher, dial it in and hit VNAV. �Now you ascend to that altitude according to your original profile. �Keep doing this until you are cleared to your final cruising altitude.

Coming down, I usually don't use VNAV with ATC. �I like Flight Level change instead. �Usually, all bets are off anyway, as ATC is going to vector you around. �HOWEVER, if you want to do without ATC, dial in a low altitude before you reach your Top of Descent. �VNAV will automagically head down on schedule and follow your plan / vertical profile.

I think some of the problems are that people are (understandably) learning about this airplane. �Yeah, I've had (I'll go ahead and say "other") Airbusses, 737, Ejets, MD-11, Queen of the Skies, yadda, yadda, yadda �But while I consider myself ahead of the game on learning this one, this is the firsts FMC that has inspired me to really learn how to use the darn thing.

EDIT: ha, I can write darn and it looks like darn. �Anyway, here's another tip.

To learn this bird, just forget ATC and turn off traffic. �Learn how the FMC controls your flight using maximum automation. �I always make that call before I do anything: ATC or not? �I have Radar Contact, which is much, much better and will leave you alone to do your published procedures, but even so, if I want to sit back and watch Robo-Plane work, I will not use ATC. �Period. �But keep in mind, this is not an Airbus. �Pilots are not optional!

On the other hand, if I want to fly "realistically," there is no way I am having VNAV get within ten feet of my descent. �I am going to be responding to controllers who don't give a crap about what I've programmed into my FMC. �DO NOT USE VNAV FOR DESCENT WITH ATC. �In the final stage I'm using V/S and manually setting speeds. �Read your manuals, friends.

I honestly believe that if you if follow my advice here, you'll get more out of your airplane, unless your install is FUBAR, which can happen, too. �But believe me. �The FMC works. �I has yet to fail me when I have done things right on four flights in two hemispheres.

ONE MORE darn THING: 

Once you get your route the way you like it, be sure to save it as a company route.  That way you don't have to mess with it next time.  One of the really nice features of this airplane is that y ou have so many options.  Also, don't forget you can program your Route 2. I have actuallyl started doing that, too.

Again, if you want pre-made routes I know work, download that 100 World's busiest.  Try those out, and I bet you'll see how well this thing works.

Written in haste and rambling, sorry.

Hit your DEL key.  It will show DELETE in the scratch pad.  Then hit the line select key next to the waypoint you want to delete.  (This only works on the LEGS page.)   Poof!  It's gone.

Wow, if knowing how the DEL key works qualifies one for godhood, it ain't what it used to be!  But thanks, glad to help out.

As of time of post you can find me on the live ACARS link from the FTG link in my sig, in Miami, now boarding for Atlanta.  See for yourself if automated flight works   I'll be one of the tiger heads en route.  I've thrown in some weird stuff like holds for fun.

I assume that as part of your preflight you switched to PLN and looked at your LEGS page in your MCU and used the STEP button (lower right LSK) and did not see any discos when you went through step by step?

It is not unusual to have weird double-backs and strange excursions, usually because I put in the wrong waypoint, or there were duplications or whatever. �You catch those before you take off � �That's what I mean by saying you have to monkey with them until they're right sometimes.

I think a lot of simmers (not �you) expect too much from certain equipment. �There is no magic button. �A good example is descent. �VNAV is not your magic "take me home" button. �Once you learn how the different ways you can descend work, and what they're each good for, then you can use them sensibly. �Now tonight, I do plan to use VNAV, because I'm not fooling with ATC and just want to see what the airplane can do for me.

Anyway, if you had no discos when you left, I don't see how you could suddenly develop one in flight.  (Unless you used your awesome new DEL powers for evil.) �If that happened to me, I would just click on the waypoint I was supposed to be going to on my LEGS page, so it showed up in the scratch pad, then hit the top left LSK to go direct. �No big deal as far as that goes, but you're flying with something wonky.

For how little the AIRAC cycles cost, and since you can use them in any airplane you have that Navigraph supports (not the same one, but you can download installers for each for just the one price) I would indeed recommend it. �I really don't know what the 757 Captain ships with, but I would guess the last free one, which is pretty out of date. �Plus, you get a lot of procedures, too, that are pretty reliable. �You buy "credits" at Navigraph that you can use to buy your AIRAC cycles, and also procedure charts and even en route charts if you want to, but that costs more. �While a lot is available online, there's something to be said for having what you want when you want it, too.

Maybe Navigraph is why I'm enjoying so much success, I don't know.

Hang in there. �This is not easy stuff at the beginning. �Once you start understanding exactly why things work, it will click for you. �Just to make sure about the RTE page, although I used one airway and "exit" a real plan will probably have more, though, and those all have to get entered. �You probably know that, but thought I'd mention it.

The STAR I wanted to use tonight was at AirNav, but not in my FMC database. �It happens. �So I just kind of made my own by combining a STAR I did have with the approach plate for the runway I intend to land on, so I basically wind up at the initial approach fix at the right speed and altitude.

By the way, I cranked up traffic at KMIA and was no. seven for takeoff with other planes landing, in front and behind me. �I was getting 20 FPS in spot, 17 looking out the vc window, and 15 on spot during climbout looking at the airport behind me. �In cruise I'm getting 25 from the vc and 30+ in spot.

With the sunlight putting all the knobs in the vc in bright relief, and the Atlantic Ocean glistening out the window, it is really a beautiful trip.

Tim.

I respectfully disagree with your point of view as what I am experiencing here has nothing to do with bad FSX install.

Yesterday I have made another flight - and I'll do so many as needed to see if and where maybe I'm doing some mistake.

As you probably know, Boeing CDU logical are very similar - for a 73x , 76x or for a 74x. If you learn to use one, you certainly know how to use the others.

My flight: UHMA to PANC - FL310.
BUMUL G212 YUREE H201 OME J111 MIGAN

SID: BUMUL - STAR: TAGER5.MIGAN

I have created my flightplan and imported it to FSX flightplanner. When programming CDU, I imported the flightplan. MIGAN and PANC disappeared. So I inserted them manually.

Bug1: When importing a flightplan, destination airport and last waypoint disappear on LEGS page.

I usually fly on IVAO. Sometimes VATSIM. As you probably know, as you contact ATC at your destination you have information on what runway to land, due to METAR at that moment.

So, inserting arrival information at departing airport is just a guess. Even if you have the METAR at your arrival airport, and let's say, winds are 060�, which runway at PANC - 06L or 06R?

So the final information is inserted on CDU during your approach.

Bug2: If you insert this information during flight, you have a discontinuity, which is expected and very normal to happen. When you copy the next waypoint to scratchpad and then to discontinuity boxes, all your approach disappears, you miss your T/D and FL is set to 310 to the remaining waypoints.

For this flight I pre-set all information on CDU. Selected RWY06L to land at PANC and inserted a few waypoints to make a smooth wind leg and base leg. So I added FROZN, SUPOY and WEWWO waypoints.

I also checked airport charts and adjusted altitude at CI07L to be sure that I'll be at 1600' and catch the glide.

I have also made some adjustments on speed, to make a smooth turn and avoid overshooting the waypoints at the final.

If you don't use VNAV for your descent, I suggest you to try it. That maybe the difference. It also seems you are still learning all the benefits of CDU. That's great. I hope you can fully experience it.

Departure and cruise were fine. At departure, the aircraft followed SID route quite well.

Before descent, I set altitude to 1600' on MCP. At T/D aircraft began it descent as expected. Speedbug at 300 knots. Throttle on idle. N1 displaying about 30% confirming idle.

At 10000' speedbug automatically decreased to 250 knots. CDU displayed 'drag required' message. Speedbrakes at full. The aircraft did not reduced speed until leveled.

Bug3: Speedbrakes seem to be uneffective.

Although VNAV was still activated, the aircraft descended to 1600' not reacting to CDU altitude restrictions at the waypoints.

Bug4: VNAV seems to be uneffective at descent.

At TAGER I set 170 knots on CDU and all the other waypoints assumed correctly this speed. When over HEYEB speedbug increased to 300 knots and also aircraft speed. One or two miles after the waypoint, the speedbug decreased to 170 knots. This also happened when over ANC.

Bug5: Speedbug/throttle strange behaviour

The aircraft followed the route correctly. LNAV works perfect.

Localizer and ILS were correctly captured.

Landing perfect, autobrakes and speedbrakes worked fine.

I apologize for such this long post but I think it is needed, and again with due respect to your opinion, I disagree this aircraft works fine.

I'll wait for some news from dev's and I really hope they can fix the problems many of us are reporting on this forum.

Regards

Schmid.

(oh, please, 'Mr.' is not needed and sounds a little bit of sarcasm. �)

Tim and Schmid

I am enjoying the friendly exchange of ideas between you and the interesting points of view about how to fly the FMC.

I'm neither a real pilot or an experienced FMC simmer, just an old (74 years) flight enthusiast trying to expand my knowledge of the FMC. My capacity to learn is now somewhat diminished so with what years still remain in my life I need to learn enough to have fun quickly. With your tips that fun has come easier. Thank you. I'm perfectly happy to fly the entire plan in auto mode and not interface with ATC. When the FMC works, it is great fun to experience the moves the plane makes and watch the adjustments of the controls, speed bugs, and the display of the map and plan as the flight progresses.

Tim and Schmid's recent posts have elevated the good information level of this thread. Wish CS had better English skills and the time such that they could contribute more to this thread. Between the complexity of the FMC in general, the unique features of the CS FMC, real world use of the FMC and total automated use of the FMC leaves a lot of room for different operation of the FMC. Knowing how others view the FMC operation is instructive. I will soon settle on a very limited knowledge base in the use of the FMC and be happy with it.

Reading the manuals is tough for me. I've not yet been entirely through the FMC manual since I realize I still don't understand how to use the information I've read, and my eyes begin to glaze over trying to continue reading. The most instructive way for me to learn is to grasp enough of the information and try it in the plane. What I've considered quirks in the CS FMc may be the way the real ones work, yet I'm still skeptical about some features. Only a real pilot of a 757 or the FMC designer could probably give us the true answers.

Tim, I've tried to locate your CS757 review at AVSIM. Can you now provide the link? Thanks.

Jim

Thanks for the kind comments, Jim.  I think the discussion at this point has come down to expectations and how people use the airplane.  I used to paint miniatures.  I am fascinated by the art of recreating a world in miniature, so visuals are very important to me.  If there turn out to be a few buglets I have to work around, I'm happy to do that.

If you really want to have some fun, create a hold somewhere before your final fix.  It is so cool to watch how the airplane works it.  (Slow down to 200 kts, using speed window / button if necessary.  No sense wasting more fuel than you have to, and you get tighter turns.)

CS is out of office until Thursday, so maybe they'll chime in when they get back.  Or maybe they'll make popcorn and listen to us talk

As for the rewiew... I have something much more detailed and interesting in the works.  So I consider my off-the-cuff reader review to be less than the best I could do.  If you can wait a bit, I would appreciate it. (Otherwise email me.)

Have a nice day!

Tim, Ill wait for your expanded review. Curious about what it contains.

OK, I'll look into the circling HOLD. As you say, it could be an enjoyable to experience.

Great news!  The reinstall was the trick!  I flew a short flight from Minneapolis to O'Hare.  Successful SID, STAR, and route!  I even successfully did two holds (one of which I actually needed to loose altitude!)!  I will be getting the new AIRAC cycle tonight.  Thanks for all of your time and help!

Where are you from, Flavio?

God willing, I will try out your flight tonight.  I'm looking forward to it because I do not recognize the airports and have no idea in what part of the world I will be in. (Although PANC rings a very tiny bell.)

Since I assume you have the necessary procedure charts, would it be a bother to have you send them to me via email?  I think you can do that here.

My flight: UHMA to PANC - FL310.
BUMUL G212 YUREE H201 OME J111 MIGAN

SID: BUMUL - STAR: TAGER5.MIGAN

So would a fair test be to set it up and just let the airplane fly automated the whole way?

There's a lot to work with in the FMC, I agree, and I don't know that I have come anywhere close to exhausting the features.  LNAV / VNAV, holds, calculated vspeeds & flap settings, ILS info... that's what I can think of off the top of my head.

One thing I've seen on other FMCs is a page to do with climb and cruise performance.  Have I just missed it?  (I am ashamed to admit it, but I still have yet to read that part of the manual, although I have read the other parts.)

The FMC CG is wrong, I believe.  5.75 trim is too much, because the first thing I have to do after take off is trim nose down or I start heading for the moon.  Also a/c rotates by itself, depriving me of the fun.  A suggestion was CG 40 trim 4.5.  I'm going to try that, too.  Apparently, you can count the ticks on the payload page in sim and convert roughly to a scale of 1-100 %, too, to arrive at your real CG.  This will be the next issue I'll be looking into.

Besides the functionality, the one thing I really like about the FMC is how easily it imports FS flight plans and saves company routes.  For whatever reason, others seem to turn this process into something of a dark art, requiring special names, etc. if they do it at all.

Here was my route from KMSP to KORD with a Northwest 757-200:

Dep. Airport: KMSP
SID: Coult2 to DLL
MSN
STAR: JVL5 via MSN
Arrival Airport: KORD

Simplified Version:
KMSP COULT2 DLL MSN JVL5 KORD

All waypoints:
KMSP
COULT
LMFRY
ARTCC
DLL
MSN
GARTT
JVL
LOCEN
TIRRO
BULLZ
TEDDY
KRENA
ORD
(I landed on 32L so that had a bunch of other waypoints)
KORD

@ Tim.

To correctly calculate the CG of the 757, go to the fuel and payload manager.  Next, count how many red lines it is to the center of dot (from top to bottom).  Then divide the number of lines you counted by 32 (total number of red lines).  Then multiply that by 100.  Round your answer to the nearest number.  That is the % that you enter in the FMC.

Hope this helps!

No need to apologize to anyone for the way you choose to play with your toy airplanes

Now, see, you have accomplished something I didn't. �It ignored my speed restriction, which is why I did it the other way. �So that means that the suspected problem in the program is more likely a problem in what I was doing. �If I can't get it right, I'll be asking you for help.

Yes, much better to practice stuff a bit at a time, rather than learn at end of a nine hour flight you don't know how to find your flap settings and vref speed!

You might try saving the flight after you got it all set up.  Whether it will save the panel state perfectly or not, I don't know.  Don't forget you can at least save the route that you have created as a company route.  That might save you some work.

As far as just resetting the FMC, that's a good question.

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I'm from Rio de Janeiro.

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That's the deal, Tim. If I could have this aircraft doing correctly almost the full job, I would consider it reliable.

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Don't be ashame. What is mandatory: a full flightplan without disconnections. Flight level, with or without step climbs which is calculated by CDU. PERF INIT page filled. V1, V2 and VR completed.
Take your time to see about CLB and CRZ but don't worry. CDU will set your best speeds based on GW and CI.

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CDU calculates your trim based on CG. But you have to set your trim on pedestal panel. I also noticed that aircraft rotates by itself. On a near future I'll include different loads to see its behaviour.

Regards

Schmid

Hi, Tim.

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Come on! Anchorage is a very nice place! And not so unkown... �

I'll PM you some charts. �

Cheers

Schmid