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Message started by mark767 on Aug 3rd, 2015 at 1:02pm

Title: Instructions for adding Delco Carousel IV-A INS
Post by mark767 on Aug 3rd, 2015 at 1:02pm
This works now for verson 2.6

INS is available at www.simufly.com/ins/ 
Download version 1.51

It will look like this:  Shift-2 gives you the ICONS to bring up the units.
http://i.imgur.com/eoRbypU.jpg


You need to do the following to the Panel.cfg for each version of the 727 you have installed.  Copy and paste the highlighted items below into your panel.cfg and make sure you double check the numbering to make sure its sequential.

[Window Titles]
Window00=Main
Window01=Simicons
Window02=Animations Control
Window03=Autopilot
Window04=Radio Stack
Window05=GPS
Window06=Carousel IV-A INS
Window07=CS Weather Radar
Window08=Navigation Map
Window09=Take Off Data Card
Window10=Crew Messenger
window11=INS Control Display Units
window12=ADEU
Window13= INS MSU


[VIEWS]
VIEW_FORWARD_WINDOWS=MAIN_PANEL,RADIO_STACK_PANEL,60,115
VIEW_FORWARD_ZOOM=0.8
VIEW_FORWARD_DIR=1.0,0.0,0.0
VIEW_DOWN_WINDOWS=30,80,115
VIEW_REAR_RIGHT_WINDOWS=33,85,115
VIEW_DOWN_ZOOM=1.0
VIEW_DOWN_DIR=-30.0,0.0,30.0
VIEW_REAR_RIGHT_ZOOM=0.8
VIEW_REAR_RIGHT_DIR=0.0,0.0,120.0

[Window00]
file=bg.bmp
background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=1024,768
window_size_ratio=1.00   
visible=1
ident=MAIN_PANEL
render_3d_window=0
window_size=1.000, 1.000
window_pos=0.000, 0.000
gauge00=..\..\CS_B727-100\panel\Captain_Sim.p721.sys!main, 0,0, 2,2

[Window01]
size_mm=36,168
background_color=0,0,0
window_pos=0.000,0.75
type=special
visible=1
render_3d_window=0
zorder=99
ident=11101
gauge00=Captain_Sim.p722.tools!icons,0,0,36,168

[Window02]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=180,305
window_pos=0.000,0.07
visible=0
ident=10002
type=special
gauge00=Captain_Sim.p722.tools!animations, 0,0,178.5,305

......edited out......

[Window09]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=188,252
window_pos= 0.0, 0.25
visible=0
type=special
ident=10050
gauge00=..\..\CS_B727-100\panel\V-One!DataCard, 0,0,188,252

[Window10]
background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=176,146
position=7
visible=0
ident=10007
render_3d_window=0
gauge00=..\..\CS_B727-100\panel\Captain_Sim.p721.P15!P15_bg, 0,0,176,146

[Window11]
size_mm=480,106
window_pos= 0.300, 0.020
;position=2
Background_color=0,0,0
visible=0
ident=10005

gauge01=../civa/INS!CduPanelIconB,    427, 0, 20, 20, 40
gauge02=../civa/INS!AdeuPanelIconB,    427, 20, 20, 20, 41
gauge03=../civa/INS!NavModeDual,    427, 40, 50, 45

[Window12]
size_mm=420,221
background_color=0,0,0
window_pos=0.300, 0.160
position=0
visible=0
ident=40

gauge00=../civa/ins!Cdu1,       0,  0, 200, 158
gauge01=../civa/ins!Cdu2,     200,  0, 200, 158
gauge02=../civa/INS!UpdateFlags, 150, 160, 115, 63
gauge03=../civa/INS!CduPanelIconB,    400, 0, 20, 20, 40
gauge04=../civa/INS!AdeuPanelIconB,      400, 138, 20, 20, 41


[Window13]
size_mm=420,161
background_color=0,0,0
window_pos=0.300, 0.450
position=0
visible=0
ident=41

gauge00=../civa/INS!Msu1,       0,  0, 200, 57
gauge01=../civa/INS!Msu2,     200,  0, 200, 57
gauge02=../civa/INS!Adeu1,     0, 60, 250, 101
gauge03=../civa/INS!AdeuPanelIconB,    400, 0, 20, 20, 41


[VCockpit01]
size_mm=1024,1024
pixel_size=1024,1024
texture=$FPSP
background_color=0,0,0
gauge00=..\..\CS_B727-100\panel\Captain_Sim.p721.general!L_backlight, 25, 230, 200, 20
gauge01=..\..\CS_B727-100\panel\Captain_Sim.p721.L01!L01_machmeter, 24,26, 200,200
gauge02=..\..\CS_B727-100\panel\Captain_Sim.p721.L02!L02_clock, 50, 300, 155, 151
gauge03=..\..\CS_B727-100\panel\Captain_Sim.p721.L03!L03_aplight, 625,749, 55,55
gauge04=..\..\CS_B727-100\panel\Captain_Sim.p721.L04!L04_airspeed, 275, 30, 177, 169
gauge05=..\..\CS_B727-100\panel\Captain_Sim.p721.L05!L05_rmi, 275, 775, 200,200
gauge06=..\..\CS_B727-100\panel\Captain_Sim.p721.L10!L10_altimeter, 275,270, 210,240
gauge07=..\..\CS_B727-100\panel\Captain_Sim.p721.L11!L11_vsi, 20,524, 217,220
gauge08=..\..\CS_B727-100\panel\Captain_Sim.p721.L13!L13_ra, 260,505, 240,240
gauge09=..\..\CS_B727-100\panel\Captain_Sim.p721.L14!L14_ealtimeter, 25, 779, 200, 220
gauge10=..\..\CS_B727-100\panel\Captain_Sim.p721.general!R_backlight, 25, 749, 200, 20
gauge11=..\..\CS_B727-100\panel\Captain_Sim.p721.general!C_backlight, 25, 500, 200, 20
gauge12=..\..\CS_B727-100\panel\Captain_Sim.p721.L07!L07_adi, 505, 29 , 168, 150
gauge13=..\..\CS_B727-100\panel\Captain_Sim.p721.L07!L07_010_slip, 275,225, 200, 47
gauge14=..\..\CS_B727-100\panel\Captain_Sim.p721.L08!L08_hsi, 599, 399, 199, 239
gauge15=..\..\CS_B727-100\panel\Captain_Sim.p721.L09!L09_002_light, 725,649, 133,64
gauge16=..\..\CS_B727-100\panel\Captain_Sim.p721.L09!L09_003_light, 725,724, 133,64
gauge17=..\..\CS_B727-100\panel\Captain_Sim.p721.L09!L09_004_light, 725,799, 133,64
gauge18=..\..\CS_B727-100\panel\Captain_Sim.p721.L09!L09_005_light, 725,874, 133,64
gauge19=..\..\CS_B727-100\panel\Captain_Sim.p721.L09!L09_006_light, 725,949, 80,64
gauge20=..\..\CS_B727-100\panel\Captain_Sim.p721.L09!L09_007_light, 799,949, 80,64
gauge21=..\..\CS_B727-100\panel\Captain_Sim.p721.L09!L09_008_light, 871,649, 136,64
gauge22=..\..\CS_B727-100\panel\Captain_Sim.p721.L09!L09_009_light, 871,724, 136,64
gauge23=..\..\CS_B727-100\panel\Captain_Sim.p721.L09!L09_010_light, 871,799, 136,64
gauge24=..\..\CS_B727-100\panel\Captain_Sim.p721.L09!L09_011_light, 871,874, 136,64
gauge25=..\..\CS_B727-100\panel\Captain_Sim.p721.L09!L09_012_light, 871,949, 136,64
gauge26=..\..\CS_B727-100\panel\Captain_Sim.p721.L09!L09_001_light, 623,924, 92,90
gauge27=..\..\CS_B727-100\panel\Captain_Sim.p721.L15!L15_001_dme,      499,799, 90,30
gauge28=..\..\CS_B727-100\panel\Captain_Sim.p721.L15!L15_002_light, 625,824, 100,45
gauge29=..\..\CS_B727-100\panel\Captain_Sim.p721.L15!L15_003_light, 625,873, 100,45
gauge30=..\..\CS_B727-100\panel\Captain_Sim.p721.L06!L06_001_light, 624,698, 101,46
gauge31=..\..\CS_B727-100\panel\Captain_Sim.p721.L06!L06_002_light, 498,923, 115,81
gauge32=..\..\CS_B727-100\panel\Captain_Sim.p721.L06!L06_003_light, 499,849, 87,57
gauge33=..\..\CS_B727-100\panel\Captain_Sim.p721.L09!L09_013_light, 626,649, 100,45
gauge34=..\..\CS_B727-100\panel\Captain_Sim.p721.L13!L13_001_light, 500,675, 50,50
gauge35=Captain_Sim.p727.sound!main, 0,0, 10,10, Captain_Sim\727\sound.ini
gauge36=..\..\CS_B727-100\panel\civa!general,1,1
gauge37=..\..\CS_B727-100\panel\V-One!AltCallOuts_CS_gauge,      0,0,0,0
gauge38=..\..\CS_B727-100\panel\V-One!V-One, 0,0,0,0
gauge39=Captain_Sim.p722.sys!main, 0,0, 2,2
gauge40=../civa/INS!Config,            0, 0, 0, 0, CS727 // this gauge initializes the Civa INS gauges, "CS727.Isd"


Title: Re: Instructions for adding Delco Carousel IV-A INS
Post by Jim Kaye on Aug 3rd, 2015 at 8:47pm
Thanks very much for the INS gauge for the 727.  I installed it this morning, and it works perfectly!  This makes the 727 even more realistic and enjoyable to fly.

Jim Kaye  :) :)

Title: Re: Instructions for adding Delco Carousel IV-A INS
Post by Naibor on Aug 4th, 2015 at 3:35pm
I can't get it works for me. I can't see the icons on the panel shift + 2.

I have copied and paste all the lines marked in yellow in the files panel.cfg either in 727-100 and 727-200.

Simuyfly CIVA INS is installed and working in other aircrafts.

Any idea why it does not work?

Thank you very much.

Title: Re: Instructions for adding Delco Carousel IV-A INS
Post by Jim Kaye on Aug 4th, 2015 at 10:14pm
When I was installing the CIVA, I noticed that I needed to add one line above the two that had been marked in yellow, in order to have the gauges all in sequence, i.e. gauge37, gauge38, gauge39, and gauge40.  You might check and see if you need that extra line, which has to do with V-One.  Gauge37 refers to AltCallouts, gauge38 refers to V-One, gauge39 Captain_Sim.p722, and gauge40 refers to /civa/INS!Config...

Jim Kaye

Title: Re: Instructions for adding Delco Carousel IV-A INS
Post by mark767 on Aug 6th, 2015 at 7:09pm
I am thinking now that the Shift+2 icons are from another install of this gauge on an earlier version of the 727 and I had to install those icons into the gauges folder.  Not sure thought but let me look.

Title: Re: Instructions for adding Delco Carousel IV-A INS
Post by mark767 on Aug 6th, 2015 at 7:15pm
Here is the original post from CoolIP.

http://www.captainsim.org/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1286031420


It seems that those icon gauges are part of the CIVA INS version1.51.  Maybe you need to try and reinstall it from here:  http://www.simufly.com/ins/download.html


Title: Re: Instructions for adding Delco Carousel IV-A INS
Post by Kyprianos Biris on Aug 9th, 2015 at 7:31am
I added
gauge01=../civa/INS!Config, 0, 0, 0, 0, Def_B727

in [Window00] per CIVA documentation

Title: Re: Instructions for adding Delco Carousel IV-A INS
Post by Peje on Aug 10th, 2015 at 2:50pm
Ins config. must take place in [Vcockpit01] in order to position and align the INS.
MSU's and CDU's are not powered if Ins config is set in [Window00]

However, on the ground, on my computer,  the INS switches are not clickable.
I didn't make a flight yet.

Title: Re: Instructions for adding Delco Carousel IV-A INS
Post by fsxpaul on Aug 10th, 2015 at 10:54pm

Peje wrote on Aug 10th, 2015 at 2:50pm:
Ins config. must take place in [Vcockpit01] in order to position and align the INS.
MSU's and CDU's are not powered if Ins config is set in [Window00]

However, on the ground, on my computer,  the INS switches are not clickable.
I didn't make a flight yet.


Peje is correct in that the CIVA INS will not function with 'gauge01=../civa/INS!Config, 0, 0, 0, 0, Def_B727' under a certain condition.

If you have FSX set-up with 'Setting - Display' to 'Default Cockpit View' set to '2D', then having 'gauge01=../civa/INS!Config, 0, 0, 0, 0, Def_B727' in '[Window00]' will work just fine.

However, if the 'Default Cockpit View' is set to '3D', you can only activate the CIVA INS by switching to Cockpit View (2D Window) or pressing 'Shift + 1' before you can power-up the CIVA INS.

If you always start-up in the '3D' cockpit, then place 'gauge0X=../civa/INS!Config, 0, 0, 0, 0, Def_B727' in the [VCockpit01] section of your panel.cfg file.

Title: Re: Instructions for adding Delco Carousel IV-A INS
Post by Peje on Aug 11th, 2015 at 1:25pm
fsxpaul, thank you for your contribution.
I did add the,../civa/INS!Config, 0, 0, 0, 0, Def_B727,in both windows, starting the INS from shift 1 window.
Now both CDU's are powered and the INS switches are clickable.

Jus need to  check that on flight one of these days.
BTW there is only one file in the CIVA folder.

Title: Re: Instructions for adding Delco Carousel IV-A INS
Post by Ken Boardman on Aug 14th, 2015 at 11:13pm
I just installed the 2.6 update and I'm a bit confused
about status of the CIVA INS.  Prior to uninstalling
the previous version,  I had a properly operating
dual CIVA system.  After installing V2.6, I was preparing
to reinstall dual CIVA and then noticed that CIVA entries
already existed in the new (v2.6) panel.cfg files.
Not sure what to do now ~:)   The included CIVA
appears to be a single unit system.  If this is
correct,  I suppose (to be safe) that to install a
dual CIVA system,  all the existing CIVA
entries should be removed from the panel.cfg
and then just follow the instructions for installing
the dual CIVA. 
  Any clarification or tips will be appreciated. 
  Also,  I could not find any instructions in the 2.6
manuals for using the (included) CIVA. 
Ken Boardman


Title: Re: Instructions for adding Delco Carousel IV-A INS
Post by davecat on Aug 15th, 2015 at 2:16am
Same question as Ken in the post above.  I have made the mods to the panel config.  Shift +2 still only brings up the old set of ICONS.  I can get the INS, AEDU, and MSU by going to views, instrument panel and selecting them.  Do we need to eliminate the single INS references in the config that came with v 2.6 to get the icons to work properly for this dual INS setup?

Title: Re: Instructions for adding Delco Carousel IV-A INS
Post by Naibor on Aug 15th, 2015 at 8:17am

davecat wrote on Aug 15th, 2015 at 2:16am:
Same question as Ken in the post above.  I have made the mods to the panel config.  Shift +2 still only brings up the old set of ICONS.  I can get the INS, AEDU, and MSU by going to views, instrument panel and selecting them.  Do we need to eliminate the single INS references in the config that came with v 2.6 to get the icons to work properly for this dual INS setup?


The same happens to me. I could'n make to display the icons in the icons tools.

Title: Re: Instructions for adding Delco Carousel IV-A INS
Post by Naibor on Aug 15th, 2015 at 8:45am
And how can I get b727 follow Delco Carousel IV-A INS in auto pilot?

And one more question, How can I load ADC file in the second CDU?. When I load the ADC, I can only operate it in the primary CDU.

Thank you very much.

Title: Re: Instructions for adding Delco Carousel IV-A INS
Post by fsxpaul on Aug 15th, 2015 at 5:23pm
Okay...let's try this again.

It was nice that mark767 offered a CIVA INS solution but there seem to be too many questions and some confusion regarding Shift+2 to bring up the CIVA icons.

Here is code for a Dual-CIVA using a non-modified / stock panel.cfg, copy and paste the yellow highlighted sections where nessesary:

NOTE: Place gauge39=../civa/INS!Config, 0, 0, 0, 0, CSB727 in [VCockpit01] -OR- gauge01=../civa/INS!Config, 0, 0, 0, 0, CSB727 in [Window00] - NOT both places!




Code (]
[Window Titles):


Window00=Main
Window01=Simicons
Window02=Animations Control
Window03=Autopilot
Window04=Radio Stack
Window05=GPS
Window06=Carousel IV-A INS
Window07=CS Weather Radar
Window08=Navigation Map
Window09=Take Off Data Card
Window10=Crew Messenger
Window11=INS Control Display Unit
Window12=INS MSU + ADEU

[Window01]
size_mm=36,192
background_color=0,0,0
window_pos=0.000,0.75
type=special
visible=1
render_3d_window=0
zorder=99
ident=11101
gauge00=Captain_Sim.p721.tools!icons,0,24,36,168
gauge01=../Civa/Ins!CduPanelIconL,    0,0,18,24,11040
gauge02=../Civa/Ins!MsuPanelIconL,    18,0,18,24,11041

[Window11]
size_mm=318,203
background_color=0,0,0
window_pos=0.300, 0.160
position=0
visible=0
ident=11040
gauge00=../civa/ins!Cdu1, 0, 0, 159, 159
gauge01=../civa/ins!Cdu2, 159, 0, 159, 159
gauge02=../civa/INS!UpdateFlags, 159, 159, 50, 45
gauge03=../civa/INS!NavModeDual, 110, 159, 50, 45

[Window12]
size_mm=318,161
background_color=0,0,0
window_pos=0.300, 0.450
position=0
visible=0
ident=11041
gauge00=../civa/INS!Msu1, 0, 0, 159, 57
gauge01=../civa/INS!Msu2, 159, 0, 159, 57
gauge02=../civa/INS!Adeu1, 0, 57, 159, 101
gauge03=../civa/INS!Adeu2, 159, 57, 159, 101

[VCockpit01]
..
gauge37=..\..\CS_B727-100\panel\V-One!AltCallOuts_CS_gauge,      0,0,0,0
gauge38=..\..\CS_B727-100\panel\V-One!V-One, 0,0,0,0
gauge39=../civa/INS!Config,      0, 0, 0, 0, CS727


Title: Re: Instructions for adding Delco Carousel IV-A INS
Post by davecat on Aug 15th, 2015 at 5:41pm
Bingo!!!!  Thanks Mark.  Icons all accounted for and working.

Title: Re: Instructions for adding Delco Carousel IV-A INS
Post by Naibor on Aug 15th, 2015 at 7:03pm
OOOH YES !!! works like a charm !!!

Thank you very much Fsxpaul !!!

Title: Re: Instructions for adding Delco Carousel IV-A INS
Post by mark767 on Aug 18th, 2015 at 7:59pm
Glad everyone has this working now.

Title: Re: Instructions for adding Delco Carousel IV-A INS
Post by speck on Sep 6th, 2015 at 11:02am
Quick question FSXpaul, now I can see both INS panels displaying correctly, however I lost the click-ability of the overhead panel. Do you have this issue?

Ok fixed...Did the following as per your suggestion.

Added the line in
[window00]
gauge01=../civa/INS!Config,      0, 0, 0, 0, CS727

and kept gauge 39 default in
[VCockpit01]
gauge39=Captain_Sim.p722.sys!main, 0,0, 2,2

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