You would probably be the best person to ask this question. When will or is the paintkit available for the 727 freighter?

Rpotter wrote on Nov 27^th, 2013 at 2:29am:

You would probably be the best person to ask this question. When will or is the paintkit available for the 727 freighter?

Check-in to Your Profile > Product (727-100 Base Pack) > Get Repaint Kits

Hi,

Got some problems with the smoke of the 727  :-[
It's black and after the black smoke it becomes normal, also is the black smoke blocked.
Wanted to upload a picture, but im not allowed.
Anyone a idea what is wrong ?

Vampire wrote on Nov 30^th, 2013 at 3:09pm:

Hi, Got some problems with the smoke of the 727  :-[ It's black and after the black smoke it becomes normal, also is the black smoke blocked. Wanted to upload a picture, but im not allowed. Anyone a idea what is wrong ?

It' supposed to be there when the engines are running, but sometimes it's not. Press the "I" key (default keyboard command for turning smoke on/off) and it should be there again. ;)

Hi Mark,

Thanks for your reply.
When the problem starts it's when there must become contrails, the smoke is getting thicker and white, then it's becoming blocked right after the engines.

I would say that the black smoke disappears because is not very thick or dark, whereas the contrails are thick and white, so it smothers the black engine smoke.

stand by, still two more posts and then I can add a picture

Still 2 to go  ;)

last one and then there is a picture

Here is the famous photo  ;D


http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w496/Vampire_339/727_zps45a9d46b.jpg

Well I have to say that that's not what I was expecting to see! :o

I have had that kind of problem before, and I'm pretty sure it had something to do with my graphics settings for FSX at the time.

That's pretty awesome, right. Well, I have the 707,727 and of course the C-130, and I love CS Aircrafts. The only problem I got is the 727. Must say this problem occurs from FL240 only, so if I fly at FL220,  there is no problem  ;). Was just wondering.
Thanks for the reply and maybe one day there will be a solution, till then I just keep on flying !!!!!!

Mine does not have that problem. As I said, I did have a problem like that before, quite a long time ago, but it was not for very long. I'm pretty sure it was a setting in Settings > Customize > Display. If it wasn't because of my settings, then a reinstall of the 727-100 Base Pack fixed it.

So maybe you should try reinstalling the 727 using the repair option, it might fix the problem.
Remember to use the Run as administrator option if your OS is Vista/Win7/Win8.

Hi,
I have a problem with the VHF NAV frequencie selector and vhf RADIOS on B727 100 & 200.

I can't set frequencies. Figures don't move, knobs don't work.

I need your help please!

Thanks

Hi,
I bought B727-100 &200 but I have problem with VHF NAV & VHF RADIO for setting frequencies.

Knobs don't work and figures don't changes.

What should I do?

Thanks for help

Use the left and right mouse buttons to move the frequencies. Do you have a joystick , yoke?
Ron

The aircraft does not have a master avionics switch and the radios will not respond unless the avionics are switched on.
You will need to use the FSX key which you will find under settings\controls\buttons\keys\Avionics Master (on/off)

Regards,
Nick

Guys I have new computer with windows 8.1.  I cannot get my 727 to run in the OS.  I have FS9 and I did the whole compatibility thing and run as administer but the sim crashes every time I try to load the aircraft.  Please advise I miss flying this great aircraft. >:(

There doesn't seem to be good info in the manuals regarding proper
operation of the fuel transfer system.  How accurately is it modeled?
What are the transfer switch positions at engine start?  My fuel
transfer system never seems to do what I expect it to based on
switch position(s) > thus my questions.
 I normally start my flights by loading the default Cessna and then
shutting down it engine, electrical system, and magneto switch. I
leave the avionics switch in the ON position.  Then I load a B721
livery (usually Eastern AL).
Thank you,
Ken Boardman

As far as I know....

Tank to Engine at engine start (all the switches are already set that way when the 727 is first loaded into FSX).
Possibly Tank to Engine during the climb, but if not, Center Tank to ALL Engines.
Once at cruise altitude, feed all engine from the centre tank until it is equal to the fuel remaining in the wing tanks, then switch it back to Tank to Engine for the rest of the flight.

Note. If all fuel tanks are equal when you start the engines, leave them that way for the entire flight.

To set it up so that the center tank to feeds all the engines, set the switches like I have them set in the following image:

http://i669.photobucket.com/albums/vv58/Markoz958/727fuel.jpg~original

Thank for the reply and for inserting the illustration Mark.
My transfer (rotary) switches do not appear the way they
look in your  illustration  when the 727 is first loaded.
They appear as > LH and RH transfer switches horizontal (closed ?)
and CTR transfer switch vertical (as though the center tank
would feed all three engines; however fuel is being drawn
from all three tanks after the engines are started ?).  
As I mentioned earlier< I always begin a 727 flight be
loading the default Cessna first.  
 Is it possible that I'm missing something during scenario startup
that causes the 727's transfer switches to load improperly;
perhaps showing closed when perhaps they are open?
I'm thinking that something may be causing them to
be "out of synch" (operating bass ackwards ~:)
Best regards,
Ken

No! The image is for how to set them so that the Center Tank feeds fuel to all 3 engines.

Mine do not look like they are set, in my previous reply, when the 727 first loads into FSX either.

They look like this:

http://i669.photobucket.com/albums/vv58/Markoz958/727_fuel_setup_on_starting_in_fsx_zps374bcc3b.jpg~original

That is how the fuel switches are set in the 727 when it first loads into FSX for me. With these settings, the fuel is set to Tank to Engine - i.e.:

#1 Tank (Left Wing Tank) feeds fuel to #1 Engine (Left Engine)
#2 Tank (Center Tank) feeds fuel to #2 Engine (Center Engine)
#3 Tank (Right Wing Tank) feed fuel to #3 Engine (Right Engine)

Thanks for the followup explanation Mark. Mine is loading just like yours.
I guess that's a good thing :)
 Makes more sense to me now.  I'd kinda figured out how to make
the system work the way I needed it to >> after a few inflight engine
restarts, LOL!!  I think that all is well now here.
 The plane still makes me scratch my head a lot,  but I do enjoy
flying it. I find it to be very smooth on the ground,  and smooth in the
air too (fun to hand fly).
Best regards,
Ken

I think it helps to take the confusion out of the system if you look at the fuel panel as the schematic drawing that it actually is.

Each section (ENG 1 - left, ENG 2 - center, ENG 3 - right) is schematically drawn with the tank (represented by the gauges labeled NO 1, NO 2 & NO 3 TANK) in the middle. Follow the lines from the tank and you'll see the flow of fuel. It is drawn to the pumps, then through the LOW PRESS lights (OFF if the pumps are ON) to join up immediately prior to flowing through each respective Fuel Shutoff valve to the engine. The engines in the picture are where the ENG 1 / 2 / 3 label is, right below the shutoff valve. There are even small arrows on the lines between the low press lights and the shutoff valves indicating direction of flow.

As Mark stated, in normal operation with equal fuel in all tanks, the switches are set for tank to engine operation and the #2 Fuel Crossfeed Manifold valve stays open to keep the Fuel Crossfeed Manifold pressurized. Looking at the schematic while feeding all engines from the center tank, you can see that with the #1 & #3 AFT and FWD Boost Pumps off, the only way the left and right engines get fuel is through their respective Fuel Crossfeed Manifold valves, which will be open.

I'm pretty sure that in the real airplane, there is no need to switch off any pumps to feed all engines from the center tank, as the four pumps in the #2 system run at a higher pressure than the ones in the #1 & #3 systems, so basically overpower those to feed fuel to the outboard engines. It's been a very long time since I flew the airplane though, so in order to prove that I'd have to dig through a mound of manuals in the garage...or just wait for Lou to confirm, deny or clarify ;)

The thing that I find difficult with the fuel management is that whenever I open the Left and Right Fuel Crossflow Valves, while the Left and Right FWD and AFT Boost Pumps are ON, the fuel is fed from one tank, say the No1 Tank, for a while, then it will switch to another tank (No2), then the next (No3). It will cycle through this  until I either close the Left and Right Fuel Crossflow Valves, or turn the Left and Right FWD and AFT Boost Pumps are OFF. I've never found out if that is the way it happens in real life or not, but it seems strange to me.
:-/

In the early days after I got the CS 727, I spent a lot time trying to balance them better. After Lou explained what to do (as per the info I provided before), I have never had to worry about it. It becomes a simple case of the Center (No2) Tank feeding all the emgines until it is roughtly equal to the Left (no1) and Right (No3) Tanks. Then turn on all the Boost Pumps, and close the Left and Right Fuel Crossflow Valves.

Markoz wrote on May 8^th, 2014 at 6:08am:

The thing that I find difficult with the fuel management is that whenever I open the Left and Right Fuel Crossflow Valves, while the Left and Right FWD and AFT Boost Pumps are ON, the fuel is fed from one tank, say the No1 Tank, for a while, then it will switch to another tank (No2), then the next (No3). It will cycle through this  until I either close the Left and Right Fuel Crossflow Valves, or turn the Left and Right FWD and AFT Boost Pumps are OFF. I've never found out if that is the way it happens in real life or not, but it seems strange to me. :-/ In the early days after I got the CS 727, I spent a lot time trying to balance them better. After Lou explained what to do (as per the info I provided before), I have never had to worry about it. It becomes a simple case of the Center (No2) Tank feeding all the emgines until it is roughtly equal to the Left (no1) and Right (No3) Tanks. Then turn on all the Boost Pumps, and close the Left and Right Fuel Crossflow Valves.

I noticed that too, which led me to just turn off the pumps. I'm sure it doesn't work that way in the real airplane as the #2 system pumps should overpower the #1 and #3 pumps. For me that was an initial ground school thing as I flew the airplane as an FO so fuel balance wasn't my job, but that of the SO. I do remember them taking great pride when running tank to engine, in getting all the levels exactly equal by tweaking them with the Fuel Crossfeed Manifold valves. This wouldn't have been possible if they had to turn off pumps to crossfeed as the delay in re-setting pumps and valves wouldn't allow the exact equality they were looking for.

The CS version works just fine as you stated. The only time it's been an issue for me is on the odd occasion when needing max range, my virtual SO ;) has left the system in crossfeed mode until the center tank is much lower than the wing tanks ::)  You should be able to just turn off all the #2 pumps and feed equally from #1 and #3 but that ain't happening because of the characteristic you mentioned above about feeding from the tanks on a rotational basis. It will feed from #1 then #3 then whatever it feels like doing at the time. so it becomes from that point, a constant monitoring operation feeding from #1 with all the rest of the pumps off until its level is equal to #2, then feeding from #3 until it equals the other two.

Oh for an actual virtual SO to whom you could say, "Ain't my job...just fix it" ;D

To Mark and Rob,
 Everything you both have stated above has been my experience
also. My skepticism regarding it's operation as related to real
world 727 fuel system is what prompted me to ask about it.
 I have had no trouble balancing tanks (as long as #2 level doesn't
go below #1 and #3); however as you've pointed out, I've found
it necessary to routinely cycle the boost pumps off/on to ensure
a reasonably balance fuel load :)
Thank you for your great explanations.
Ken

I've big problem with my b727 by capitan. I really like the plane but I can't fly because just before landing my fsx is turning off by an error. What i supposed to do? >:(

The 727 fuel system is NOT able to transfer fuel, only cross feed.

In general, regardless of fuel load, start, taxi & takeoff tank-to-engine.

After climb power set: if fuel in tank #2 exceeds tanks #1 & #3, start a cross feed from tank #2 to feed all engines until all tanks are equal.

The way this is done is:

1. All boost pumps ON.............................. ON
2. Ignition ON.......................................... ON
3. All cross feed valves OPEN..................... OPEN
4. Turn off boost pumps one at a time in tanks #1 & #3
    while observing engine........ CHECK
5. When all tanks equal:
    Turn ON all boost pumps...................... ON
6. Cross feed valves #1 & #3 CLOSE......... CLOSE
7. Cross feed #2 valve OPEN.................... OPEN
8. Ignition OFF............................. .......... OFF

In the real world, this is a crew coordinated procedure. That means the F/E will alert the rest of the crew before turning off boost pumps.

If both stages of the engine driven fuel pump are working, the engine will suction feed from the fuel tank without boost pump pressure at less than full power. The boost pumps in tank #2 are slightly higher pressure than tanks #1 & #3.

Any questions????
Hope this makes sense.

Lou

sorry but I was trying to find out how to start a new post but have not found out yet...I am new on this forum...so please bear with me.....
My question is if I bought the 727 Captain ACE pack, 727 Captain 100 and 200 exterior mods do I still need to to purchase the base pack???? I bought all 3 of there back in 2005 -2007(so yes it has been a while since I bought them) I just never used them yet.... so again...would I need the Base pack for these mods????    any help is appreciated!!!!

dinger wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 9:33pm:

sorry but I was trying to find out how to start a new post but have not found out yet...I am new on this forum...so please bear with me..... My question is if I bought the 727 Captain ACE pack, 727 Captain 100 and 200 exterior mods do I still need to to purchase the base pack???? I bought all 3 of there back in 2005 -2007(so yes it has been a while since I bought them) I just never used them yet.... so again...would I need the Base pack for these mods????    any help is appreciated!!!!

You need to reach 10 posts before you can start a new topic. This is an Anti Spam measure that Captain Sim uses for the forum. :-/

Unfortunately, I can't answer your question about the 727 Base Pack, but Tanya can. You will just have to wait for her response ;)

dinger wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 9:33pm:

sorry but I was trying to find out how to start a new post but have not found out yet...I am new on this forum...so please bear with me..... My question is if I bought the 727 Captain ACE pack, 727 Captain 100 and 200 exterior mods do I still need to to purchase the base pack???? I bought all 3 of there back in 2005 -2007(so yes it has been a while since I bought them) I just never used them yet.... so again...would I need the Base pack for these mods????    any help is appreciated!!!!

Thank you for interest.
You can still use them if you want, there will be no issues. But if you would like to have all features of base pack and will want to use 727-200 Expansion with base pack you may buy discounted upgrades: http://www.captainsim.com/products/x727/discount.html

Hi,
I purchased the 727-100 Base Pack recently. (707, 737 too)
I am mightily impressed and am getting my head around this one before tackling the others. 

My question is - does a Service Pack or something exist for this
airplane, or do you have to manually install all the tweaks etc separately ?

The only change I have made so far is to install the V-One Takeoff and Landing Gauge with Sounds by fsxpaul - On this forum

If you do have to manually install the tweaks etc, is there a best order to do it in ?
Am simply trying to avoid swapping air files constantly and editing the airplane.cfg etc all the time.

Enjoying learning the autopilot on this one - NOT lol.
Thank you.
Terry.

Hi Terry.

A lot of mods for the 727 are provided by forum members. I don't use any of them.

The autopilot works much better if you have the Acceleration Expansion Pack installed. FSX Gold comes with Acceleration, but I don't know if it has to be installed, or not. :-/

Hi Mark,

Thanks for your reply mate.
I don't have acceleration but I have SP1, SP2, and FSGlobal 2008.

I may have a look at buying the acceleration. Will have a read
on the old 'google' about it.
Cheers.
Terry

TerryT wrote on Dec 31^st, 2014 at 8:55am:

I may have a look at buying the acceleration. Will have a read on the old 'google' about it.

FSX Gold tends to be pretty cheap to buy. I'm not sure about the cost of Acceleration, but I'm sure that you can still get it. ;)

Hi!

Where I can download the paintkit of the 727 Freighter, please?

Check-in to Your Profile > Product (727-100 Base Pack) > Get Repaint Kits

I've just recently bought the 727, recommended by a friend. On a -100 i did a normal load and then cut the engines off. For the flight i was going to make i was told to leave the center tank empty. I made sure that the flow from the left and right tanks is on, but for some reason the aircraft only used fuel from the center tank, which is empty, so i could not start the engines or have them running without fuel in the center tank. Can someone help me solve this issue? thanks

Example on fuel use.

Say a flight requires 40,000 pounds of fuel, then you fill all 3 tanks equally to 12,000 pounds each, then add the additional 4,000 pounds in the centre tank.
For the flight, I will use Tank #2, to feed fuel to all 3 engines, by opening the 3 fuel crossfeed valves. I will leave it like this until Tank #2 has 12,000 pounds remaining, then I will close the 3 fuel crossfeed valves, and let each tank feed fuel to the corresponding engine - i.e. Tank #1 feeds fuel to Engine #1, etc.

If I do a flight that only requires 18,000 pounds of fuel, then I put 6,000 pounds of fuel in each tank, leave the fuel crossfeed valves closed, and let each fuel tank feed its corresponding engine.

All tanks must have fuel in them (although you can probably still fly it without any fuel in the centre tank (Tank #2)), but it is not how the 727 was designed to use fuel. LOU, a former airline pilot that flew the 727, spoke about it in another topic in this forum (the 727 Captain forum), but I can't find it right now. :-/

Where I can get detailed cockpit textures? Default textures of 727 cocpit is so fuzzy, then I can't read no one words on panels.

Thank you.

Rikenbacker wrote on Nov 19^th, 2015 at 9:32am:

Where I can get detailed cockpit textures? Default textures of 727 cocpit is so fuzzy, then I can't read no one words on panels.

Funny, I am here because I have exact the same question :-)

I only found HD repaints for the exterior, payware on sim market.
Is there anything for the virtual cockpit? I would pay for it if there is one.

Thank you

Do you have the "High Resolution Virtual Cockpit" option enabled in FSX?

Why "master avionic switch" bug still not fixed? It's bug known for more than 5 years, and users regularly ask about it on this forum. It's so difficult to switch master avionics on after switching galley power?

David Paul wrote on Nov 19^th, 2015 at 7:55pm:

Do you have the "High Resolution Virtual Cockpit" option enabled in FSX?

Prepar3D have this option? I didn't know about it. Thank you, I'll try to check it option.

Rikenbacker wrote on Nov 20^th, 2015 at 7:40am:

David Paul wrote on Nov 19th, 2015 at 7:55pm: Do you have the "High Resolution Virtual Cockpit" option enabled in FSX? Prepar3D have this option? I didn't know about it. Thank you, I'll try to check it option.

Nom Prepar3D has no option. Textures still look ugly.

Could you please show this with a screenshot? Maybe this is normal.

I cannot start a new thread.  And I did a search for 'cold and dark' which I believe is the topic I am looking for.  But the forum gave me 0 matches.  So, I guess I have to just post this anywhere I can...   ::)

How can I create a quick Free Flight mission with everything shut down? 

I also would like to make sure that ALL of the switches are in their default positions so that I can follow the manual and do a complete startup?

Thanks.

Start FSX, select your CS aircraft, then click Load (lower left on window), select cold and dark. You take it from there.

Add a post with a period a few more times.

Thanks for the reply and advice.  I hesitate to 'spam' with periods, but if that is acceptable here I will do it if I need to.   ;)

Yes, I have loaded that Cold and Dark flight before.  But it is not all shutdown.  There are still lights on. 

So, I turn off the 'Battery Switch' on the top of the back panel, and all of those lights go off.  I saved the mission.  But when I load it again, the Battery Switch is back on!!  And  I am wondering what other switches are not off(or in their default position). 

I am not a professional pilot, so I don't know..  I assume that between flights, some things/systems are left on.  But when an aircraft is completely 'Cold and Dark' shouldn't everything be off?

Hi @all.
My name is Phil and this is my first question - hopefully my last one   ;)
I've bought the 727-100 P3D v3.1. Everything works fine.

I only have one question about the INS in combination with the Flightplan-Page.
I know - and it works fine - that the INS can auto-switch to the NEXT page of the flightplan (if there are more than one).
But, is it possible und how is it possible to switch manually back to e.g. the first page and fly to one of these waypoints?!
E.g. you already are on page 2 but due to an emergency etc. you want to go direct to a waypoint / airfield from the first page..

Since I have this wonderful airplane i am looking all over the net for an answer, but nothing found yet..  :-/

Thanks  :)

I don't think that you can do a Direct To on a waypoint on a previous page (a page that is no longer in use). I think you would need to add the waypoint manually (insert the coordinates) to a position along the route ahead, then set the route leg as 0X (X being the number where you added the waypoint.

For example:

Say I am doing the Page 2 45 leg of the route. I would then insert the coordinates for the airport into waypoint 6 (or 7, 8, 9). Then I would select WY PT CHG and enter 06 (or 07, 08, 09). This would have me flying Direct To the waypoint with the coordinates I have entered.

To get the coordinates of the airport I wanted, I would open the GPS > Press the Right Large Arrow to go to the APT (airport) page > Press the PUSH CRSR button > Press the Left Small Arrow (to set the cursor on the first letter) > Then enter the airport code using the keyboard (i.e. KLAX) > Then press ENT twice to accept, then remove the highlight. Under Position, is the coordinates for the airport, so I would enter those into the INS to set that airport as the waypoint. This method can be used for getting the coordinates of Intersections (INT), NDB's, and VOR's.

Hi an thank you for your answer.
Unfortunately I guessed something like that :(

Thanks for the description anyway. I know how to add / change the coordinates.

But I asked because I also use Pro-ATC/X and I have chosen to let the program auto-load a new GPS flightplan whenever I got the STAR & Arrival. (so: new GPS Flightplan = new INS Flightplan). - It is not really a complete new plan, but the SID-points have then been deleted and instead the STAR points have been inserted after the last enroute point. So all points from the plan are now changed in position.
I recognized "the problem" when I already was on Page 2  Leg 23 and I got the STAR from ATC which was auto-loaded in the Flightplan.
BUT: the STAR now startet at the end of page 1 and the INS still, of course, was on Page 2 23, which now was in short final of the flight. So I wanted to change the actual waypoint to the correct one which is now on page 1. ...

But now I think, in this case I have to change manually all points whenever Pro-atc loads up the new plan or add the STAR points coordinates manually when I get the correct star... :(

Does anybody know how it was done in the real world with INS!? Did the pilots input all STAR coordinates while they were already descending?

Thanks anyway :)