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Message started by CoastalDriver on Sep 8th, 2013 at 8:30am

Title: Anything New Planned by Captain Sim?
Post by CoastalDriver on Sep 8th, 2013 at 8:30am
Just curious as to whether or not Capt Sim is planning any new aircraft for FSX/P3D? Very quiet at the moment all over! And no not trying to start a new topic about what would I would like to see, that has been done to death already. Everybody wants something different including me!

Title: Re: Anything New Planned by Captain Sim?
Post by AirCanadaGuy on Sep 8th, 2013 at 10:21pm
I know that a lot of people (Including me  ;)) want to see Captain Sim release the L-1011 as well as Service packs for all the current aircraft. That is a lot of work for them!  :o

Title: Re: Anything New Planned by Captain Sim?
Post by CoolP on Sep 9th, 2013 at 3:28am
Evan, I fully agree to your points.  :)

Title: Re: Anything New Planned by Captain Sim?
Post by Markoz on Sep 9th, 2013 at 3:44am

wrote on Sep 8th, 2013 at 10:21pm:
I know that a lot of people (Including me  ;)) want to see Captain Sim release the L-1011 as well as Service packs for all the current aircraft. That is a lot of work for them!  :o

That pretty much sums up my thoughts on this subject. ;D ;)

Title: Re: Anything New Planned by Captain Sim?
Post by CoastalDriver on Sep 9th, 2013 at 1:51pm
Ah well guess I will just have to keep playing around with the other mobs L1011 in the meantime. Yep and some fixes for some bugs in the other stuff would be nice too.

It seems the downturn in other places and worldwide is starting to bite in the flight sim world, there are a lot of dead sites and a lot of the community freeware effort has gone now as I am sure the cost of maintaining sites etc is too much for some and not enough bums on the seats for others. Then again there was a lot good stuff done in FS2004 and it seems the changes in modelling systems etc and lack of compatibility has meant for many it has just become too hard and who can afford it anyway, so they have given it away. Starting to see the same trend in some simmers who just cannot justify upgrading PC's etc. Then again if you look at the real world of aviation you can hardly get excited about a B787 or Airbus A350.

Title: Re: Anything New Planned by Captain Sim?
Post by daveduck on Sep 9th, 2013 at 8:20pm
I don't suppose an X-Plane version of the 707 is in the works...

Oh, to dream.


Title: Re: Anything New Planned by Captain Sim?
Post by Cappy on Sep 10th, 2013 at 11:14am
you know I was wondering what they could come up with and started thinking outside the fsx box. I'm not a fan of military aircraft in fsx as they have their own very good simulators.

But I thought about the early 50's and there were some very interesting jet powered sea planes. One was quite a large American 4 engine bomber which flew at just under mach 1.

The other I thought of was an Ekranoplan. Now I'd love to see one of those modelled correctly.  :o

*Think of the possibilities, Lou and Bruce sailing the high seas (well 20ft) at 500mph while sipping on their martinis. (shaken, not stirred!)

Title: Re: Anything New Planned by Captain Sim?
Post by CoolP on Sep 16th, 2013 at 6:37pm
Excellent suggestion, Cappy.  :D

Title: Re: Anything New Planned by Captain Sim?
Post by CoastalDriver on Sep 17th, 2013 at 10:25am
Nah, seaplanes are really hard to model well in FSX, love them nonetheless and collect all of them, the good the bad and the ugly. Problem with flying boats and amphibians or seaplanes if you like is that you got nowwhere to park them and serious flying boat bases and facilities are non existant. Had a go at one or two but have not got the hang of the object placement tools yet!

I would still love to see the other 707 variants, 128, 720 etc even the RR powered 300 of BOAC would be good. Nah tell em their dreaming. 8-)

Title: Re: Anything New Planned by Captain Sim?
Post by AirCanadaGuy on Sep 17th, 2013 at 2:23pm
Talking about sea plane's, I have always wanted to see a properly modeled CL-215 and CL-415 water bombers. The good thing is you don't stop on the water, just a touch and go without having to "slide" on the FSX water.  ;D

Title: Re: Anything New Planned by Captain Sim?
Post by Kapitan on Sep 19th, 2013 at 12:11pm
Yes, the cooling down of flight simulation is something I have always predicted. The reason are new planes, fly-by-wire and the boring cockpits with two big screens.

Simming is about enjoying a challenge, like how people got amazed at visiting the cockpit because of all those instruments, knobs, lights, etc. Today a modern cockpit doesn't impress people anymore...

Once people understood what GPS does for their lives, be it in a car or in a plane, everything is pretty much the same. Before their was curiosity with navigation, vor, ils...people wonder how planes went from a to b. Pilots were heroes. Captains were God. Stewardess were pop stars. That is what made a flightsim so popular in from FS4 in an IBM PS2. The magic of flying.

There is no magic anymore, just programming GPS, FMC, and inputing painlessly data on computers within your computer. We are just simulating computer data filling. That's not fun.
Do you know why we don't simulate cars riding along streets? Because its a pretty straightforward process that even my granny can do it.

Captainsim will be one of the last ones because they have kept around the classics, but again this niche is small. I read some guys here never saw a Tristar, just by internet pics. The thing is the Tristar is not that old, I flew in some in the 90s. Imagine about the other models.

Xplane is overrated, when come to facts, when you sit in a cockpit, even a payware, you feel like in a drawn cockpit, it doesn't feel real.

A DC8 would be welcome, its the only plane from the golden era that lacks a good CS quality addon. The future will allow for continuous services for the current planes, or relaunches when technology allows better cabin interaction with moving people, but not in this platform of course.


CoastalDriver wrote on Sep 9th, 2013 at 1:51pm:
Ah well guess I will just have to keep playing around with the other mobs L1011 in the meantime. Yep and some fixes for some bugs in the other stuff would be nice too.

It seems the downturn in other places and worldwide is starting to bite in the flight sim world, there are a lot of dead sites and a lot of the community freeware effort has gone now as I am sure the cost of maintaining sites etc is too much for some and not enough bums on the seats for others. Then again there was a lot good stuff done in FS2004 and it seems the changes in modelling systems etc and lack of compatibility has meant for many it has just become too hard and who can afford it anyway, so they have given it away. Starting to see the same trend in some simmers who just cannot justify upgrading PC's etc. Then again if you look at the real world of aviation you can hardly get excited about a B787 or Airbus A350.


Title: Re: Anything New Planned by Captain Sim?
Post by Pvjinflight on Sep 19th, 2013 at 3:22pm
"Yes, the cooling down of flight simulation is something I have always predicted. The reason are new planes, fly-by-wire and the boring cockpits with two big screens. "

FS isn't cooling down if you ask m, new products keep coming and people happily buy them. Most of the best selling FS addons have been those very airliners you call boring, such as the 737NG and 777 that got just released by a famous developer.

I hope CS is still working on the Tristar, been very quiet lately...

Title: Re: Anything New Planned by Captain Sim?
Post by Kapitan on Sep 20th, 2013 at 1:52pm
Maybe I should rephrase it...
its cooling down "compared to" the euphoria that flightsim was between FS98 and FS2004.

for those who were not regular flightsimmers in that period the amount of Forum interest, addon releases, virtual airlines, scenery developpers, etc etc was far larger than today, as was the amount of hours spent in flightsim by average simmers.

and its not fair to say the addons were of weak quality, they were considering the technology of the day, extremely advanced, I can mention a few, like the same 727 by captainsim for fs2002/fs9, the DF737 and many freewares like David Maltby and others, some still unsurpassed by todays developpers, or that took many years for a better one to come up.

the 737NG excellently done by the other is a special plane, a) first its the most widely used passenger plane flown today, given this boring world of few models compared to other epochs.
b) Any Tommy teen I-want-to-be-a-pilot carreer dreamer is bound to study and fly the 737ng thoroughly.

So, for introducing to carreeer and training flightsim will be the all favorite simulator, cheap, available and pretty accurate in some features.

But what about flightsim as a hobby? that's the cooling down I meant....compared to...to give you an idea, flightsim created such curiosity in gamers that it was more popular than MS Word or Excel in the early days. Bill Gates had to bundle FS4 with Windows because everybody was talking about siumulating flying a plane.

I see you like the 747..which developer you fly with? the other? come on! any simmer that has been on a 747 can tell their work is still cartoonish, its using gauges and graphics from fs2000, did you know that even Captainsim, the 727, 707 they are using the same gauges released by their first 727 back in ...when 2003?
Ten years have passed! reason? good developpers have also moved on to other things

Title: Re: Anything New Planned by Captain Sim?
Post by Pvjinflight on Sep 20th, 2013 at 6:51pm
"I see you like the 747..which developer you fly with? the other? come on! any simmer that has been on a 747 can tell their work is still cartoonish, its using gauges and graphics from fs2000, did you know that even Captainsim, the 727, 707 they are using the same gauges released by their first 727 back in ...when 2003?
Ten years have passed! reason? good developpers have also moved on to other things"

I highly doubt that as most FS2002/FS2004 gauges aren't compatible with FSX... The 747 of that developer is already quite old and they are making new V2 version of it.

Developers today utilize potential of FSX about as well as possible.

Title: Re: Anything New Planned by Captain Sim?
Post by AndersCN on Oct 2nd, 2013 at 3:06pm
I agree with most posters, that they should finish the Tristar first, and then release a couple of service packs for various current aircraft.

After that there could plenty of options with expansion from current basepacks: a RR Convay equipped 707-400, the 707-100, 707-200.. In fact the entire 707 versions up to the -700 series with High bypass turbofan engines.

And then we have the 767-400.

Next in the line, a classic 741/742 would be nice.

Further out in the future we could imagine the DC-8 and Convair 880/990.

BR
Anders


Title: Re: Anything New Planned by Captain Sim?
Post by wfriedman1971 on Oct 19th, 2013 at 4:55pm
and yet...military flight simming is up.....due to budget cuts, more reliance on sims is used, rather than waste gas on the real plane and put hours on it.

Title: Re: Anything New Planned by Captain Sim?
Post by CFG-Repaints on Nov 16th, 2013 at 10:58pm
Are there any news ?
Whats with CS? Since July nothing new???

Title: Re: Anything New Planned by Captain Sim?
Post by Tim Capps on Nov 18th, 2013 at 7:38am
Fix the 757 and 767 -- soooo close. Now, I realize you're not going to make money on releasing bug fixes. So how about a really nice early MiG?  Just for fun. Just hammer down the bugs in the 757 and 767, please.

Title: Re: Anything New Planned by Captain Sim?
Post by dbhally on Nov 18th, 2013 at 9:12pm
I hope its a 747-100...plenty of great suggestions for CS but to me this is the only truly great plane not done right in fsx.

Sure has been quiet on the homepage...but I guess these doldrums are normal for the most part.

Title: Re: Anything New Planned by Captain Sim?
Post by DAL191 on Nov 19th, 2013 at 3:47am

dbhally wrote on Nov 18th, 2013 at 9:12pm:
but to me this is the only truly great plane not done right in fsx.


And you think CS is going to do it right?

Michael Cubine

Title: Re: Anything New Planned by Captain Sim?
Post by Tim Capps on Nov 19th, 2013 at 5:16am
747-100 sounds great to me! Or here's a good ideal: MiG and Saber with weapons and stuff to shoot at. What a package that would make. But the 747-100 hasn't been done really well since Ready for Pushback although someone -- CLS? -- had fairly decent mode. (I actually remember what a great manual it had, and  beautifully done tutorial, more than the airplane itself lol.)

Title: Re: Anything New Planned by Captain Sim?
Post by dbhally on Nov 19th, 2013 at 5:19am

DAL191 wrote on Nov 19th, 2013 at 3:47am:

dbhally wrote on Nov 18th, 2013 at 9:12pm:
but to me this is the only truly great plane not done right in fsx.


And you think CS is going to do it right?

Michael Cubine


that's subjective of course...

for the most part, they have done some great vintage planes and the most likely developer out there that I know of to do a good job with it....In line with their other nostalgia products is all I can hope for.

if we could mention others Id ask who you'd like to see do it. There is only one other I consider better and there is no way they are doing a 100.

Title: Re: Anything New Planned by Captain Sim?
Post by CFG-Repaints on Nov 19th, 2013 at 6:34pm
why should they start with a new plane ?
At first they should fix the bugs, and finish the L011.

Title: Re: Anything New Planned by Captain Sim?
Post by dbhally on Nov 19th, 2013 at 6:52pm
no arguments there but at some point they will add a new aircraft.

Title: Re: Anything New Planned by Captain Sim?
Post by Markoz on Nov 20th, 2013 at 3:50am

CFG-Repaints wrote on Nov 19th, 2013 at 6:34pm:
why should they start with a new plane ?
At first they should fix the bugs, and finish the L011.

I agree. ;)

Title: Re: Anything New Planned by Captain Sim?
Post by mario1983 on Nov 24th, 2013 at 9:34pm
The Stratolifter or C-17 would be nice

Title: Re: Anything New Planned by Captain Sim?
Post by Chigley on Dec 1st, 2013 at 2:25am
I support all your thoughts about classic aircraft and the "monotony" of modern aircraft cockpit layout and ergonomics. However thinking outside the box of the classics and moderns that CS have produced there is a format that CS have dabilled with and that's the high tailplane format. Yes the 727 was produced but it was a bit of an one shot venture. Something that has a good deal of complexity in its systems and in the delivery of power, coupled with a short takeoff capability and is totally different to fly is the Vickers VC10. The "Vicky 10" being British built and "old-school design" would be totally different from the rest of CS's stable and with a civilian/military pax/freight/tanker/combi would add simulator variety.

Title: Re: Anything New Planned by Captain Sim?
Post by DAL191 on Dec 2nd, 2013 at 4:51pm

Chigley wrote on Dec 1st, 2013 at 2:25am:
The "Vicky 10" being British built and "old-school design" would be totally different from the rest of CS's stable and with a civilian/military pax/freight/tanker/combi would add simulator variety.

I would probably buy that just to look at the exterior view.

Michael Cubine

Title: Re: Anything New Planned by Captain Sim?
Post by mario1983 on Dec 5th, 2013 at 2:23pm
Or, an update for B-52

Title: Re: Anything New Planned by Captain Sim?
Post by BrianG on Dec 7th, 2013 at 7:35pm

Tim Capps wrote on Nov 18th, 2013 at 7:38am:
Fix the 757 and 767 -- soooo close. Now, I realize you're not going to make money on releasing bug fixes. So how about a really nice early MiG?  Just for fun. Just hammer down the bugs in the 757 and 767, please.


I'm sure CS in working feverishly to fix bugs for all their planes going back to the 727. I expect to see all their planes fixed very, very shortly.

Title: Re: Anything New Planned by Captain Sim?
Post by Markoz on Dec 8th, 2013 at 5:19am

BrianG wrote on Dec 7th, 2013 at 7:35pm:

Tim Capps wrote on Nov 18th, 2013 at 7:38am:
Fix the 757 and 767 -- soooo close. Now, I realize you're not going to make money on releasing bug fixes. So how about a really nice early MiG?  Just for fun. Just hammer down the bugs in the 757 and 767, please.


I'm sure CS in working feverishly to fix bugs for all their planes going back to the 727. I expect to see all their planes fixed very, very shortly.

I wouldn't say very shortly! :o But I certainly hope that's not too far off. ;)

My concern for the 757 and 767 is that they have already said there will NOT be any more free upgrades. This means they are staying at v4.6 (757) and v1.5 (767). New versions are possibly on the cards for them, rather than bug fixes. In all honesty, I would rather see the bugs fixed on the current versions, rather than them being completely redone. Both the 757 and 767 are top of the line visually, and with the remaining bugs fixed, they would be top of the line across the board, or at least very close to it.

Title: Re: Anything New Planned by Captain Sim?
Post by minisukai on Dec 8th, 2013 at 12:33pm
.....but there was no upgrade  from 2013.7 to now= =~~~and no news from the official............

Title: Re: Anything New Planned by Captain Sim?
Post by Blover on Dec 8th, 2013 at 12:38pm
Hi, I am reading this now, and I feel there is no point doing a new version of the 57-67-77.
All three planes have a climb' that is not realistic - no 4-5000fpm at FL250
The climb is controlled by the elevator using the available thrust.
All three planes should capture the Stars wpts.
the 57-77 should have the descent path like my 67
Otherwise they are great.!

In an effort to see if it could make a difference, I removed Accel from my FSX and replaced with SP1 + SP2. No changes, all remain the same.  Did not gain, did not loose, except a few airplanes I never flown.

Honest, my 67 is so close ! :o

Raymond     Boeing or nothing
KFLL      South florida  

Title: Re: Anything New Planned by Captain Sim?
Post by DAL191 on Dec 8th, 2013 at 2:01pm

Blover wrote on Dec 8th, 2013 at 12:38pm:
Otherwise they are great.!

Raymond     Boeing or nothing
KFLL      South florida  


How are the Wind Pages and Descent Forecast working in the FMC?

Michael Cubine

Title: Re: Anything New Planned by Captain Sim?
Post by FabioL on Dec 8th, 2013 at 2:26pm
The CS757 still beats all other 757's, IMHO.

With all the tweaks and adjustments in place, I find that it gives a comparable climb rates that are certainly close to what I'd expect from the "other" well known 757.
I return to the CS757 and CS737 time and time and time again. They're exceptional in every way, except in one respect: None are quite finished.
My wish is that CS will provide fixes for their 757, 767, & 777 rather than expect users to fix their ever-so-slightly-not-quite-there-yet aeroplanes.
Please CS, two New Year's resolutions: Issue final fixes for your products as clearly they need some fine tuning (flight dynamics and SID/STAR management) and please issue some regular news bulletins as once upon-a-time, I know that CS issued three updates within two months (or similar; Tim's review if I recall correctly mentioned this).
Once you update the current models, only then should you create new aircraft. I hate reading all the negative CS press and narratives in the "other" unofficial forum, although some of it, dare I say, appears justified.

BTW, is there an issue with your Navigraph raw data? For instance, the MELVO approach to MHTG Toncontin has spurious elements in it, which when removed and adjusted, allows the CS757 to fly the RNAV RW02 perfectly. On top of this, many ILS-X, Y, or Z approaches don't appear within the route after selection in the FMS, and this knocks out the TOD/VNAV profile, which leads me to suspect the data, only because the aircraft flies RNAV and VNAV without fault.

Hobestly CS, only you can fix this! Raise your profile to where it should be. Please consider issuing fixes for existing operational problems.


Title: Re: Anything New Planned by Captain Sim?
Post by druco on Jan 8th, 2014 at 9:35am
Guys, I agree with the most of you.
first let them finish what was started. And the L1011 will be a great addon.

But then, keeping developing models or versions from planes already on the market or very similar, sounds having the same again!!!

How about low wing medium range props, like BAe ATP, SAAB, Electra, etc. FS is lack of them in all versions. I can't find one that is good modeled. Also the CL415, above mentioned by another simmer; great plane.

There are many options for that kind of aircraft, models that no other developer has made and will make us have different experiences on FS, not just flying heavy jets...

Title: Re: Anything New Planned by Captain Sim?
Post by druco on Jan 10th, 2014 at 3:05pm
Also I have posted twice, some time ago in this forum, (those posts apparently vanished) asking for a classic former soviet plane. They are great.
How about the iconic IL-76. there are great models already, but no VC, no great panel. Some sort of partnership could be done with free developers for the body and dynamics, and CS could develop panel, VC and interiors. Even an occidental gauge version for Market reasons, I´m sure will be much appreciated by so many simmers and we will have some new for a change.

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