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Message started by tyler767l on Aug 12th, 2013 at 9:14pm

Title: Problems with transatlantic flight
Post by tyler767l on Aug 12th, 2013 at 9:14pm
I am trying to do a flight from Washington-Dulles (KIAD) to Geneva (LSGG) but I am having problems with the flight plan on the FMS. On the display, it shows a waypoint called "LRP", but no matter how far I fly, or how much I zoom in or out, it is always directly in front of me. I cannot delete it from the FMS because it won't show it there. And when I try to add more waypoints, the path will try to go back to LRP.

Does anyone have any ideas?

Title: Re: Problems with transatlantic flight
Post by Markoz on Aug 13th, 2013 at 6:50am
1. Which AIRAC are you using?
2. Where did you get you info for the Atlantic Tracks?

Can you show us the entire route here so I (or anyone else who might want to) can test it out please.

Title: Re: Problems with transatlantic flight
Post by tyler767l on Aug 13th, 2013 at 9:50pm
Hi,

I'm not sure what you mean by AIRAC, but

I generated the route using FSBuild, and put it into the FMS by selecting the Flight Plan. But the route looked crazy with sharp turns, overlapping lines, and reverse. So I deleted all the legs and entered them in normally, but the leg called LRP won't remove itself, and I think it is causeing the problem.

Here is the route in the .PLN file:

[code]<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>

<SimBase.Document Type="AceXML" version="1,0">
   <Descr>AceXML Document</Descr>
   <FlightPlan.FlightPlan>
       <Title>KIAD to LSGG</Title>
       <FPType>IFR</FPType>
       <RouteType>HighAlt</RouteType>
       <CruisingAlt>35000</CruisingAlt>
       <DepartureID>KIAD</DepartureID>
       <DepartureLLA>N38° 56' 50.00",W77° 27' 35.00",+000000.00</DepartureLLA>
       <DestinationID>LSGG</DestinationID>
       <DestinationLLA>N46° 14' 17.00",E6° 6' 33.00",+000000.00</DestinationLLA>
       <Descr>KIAD, LSGG</Descr>
       <DeparturePosition>GATE D 23</DeparturePosition>
       <DepartureName>WASHINGTON_DULLES_INTL</DepartureName>
       <DestinationName>GENEVE</DestinationName>
       <AppVersion>
           <AppVersionMajor>10</AppVersionMajor>
           <AppVersionBuild>61472</AppVersionBuild>
       </AppVersion>
       <ATCWaypoint id="KIAD">
           <ATCWaypointType>Airport</ATCWaypointType>
           <WorldPosition>N38° 56' 50.00",W77° 27' 35.00",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
           <ICAO>
               <ICAOIdent>KIAD</ICAOIdent>
           </ICAO>
       </ATCWaypoint>
       <ATCWaypoint id="STOIC">
           <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
           <WorldPosition>N39° 8' 58.00",W77° 40' 31.00",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
           <ICAO>
               <ICAOIdent>STOIC</ICAOIdent>
           </ICAO>
       </ATCWaypoint>
       <ATCWaypoint id="DIXXE">
           <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
           <WorldPosition>N39° 11' 59.00",W77° 40' 31.00",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
           <ICAO>
               <ICAOIdent>DIXXE</ICAOIdent>
           </ICAO>
       </ATCWaypoint>
       <ATCWaypoint id="JEFFW">
           <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
           <WorldPosition>N39° 14' 19.00",W77° 33' 33.00",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
           <ICAO>
               <ICAOIdent>JEFFW</ICAOIdent>
           </ICAO>
       </ATCWaypoint>
       <ATCWaypoint id="COHEN">
           <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
           <WorldPosition>N39° 15' 27.00",W77° 17' 36.00",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
           <ICAO>
               <ICAOIdent>COHEN</ICAOIdent>
           </ICAO>
       </ATCWaypoint>
       <ATCWaypoint id="WOOLY">
           <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
           <WorldPosition>N39° 20' 19.00",W77° 2' 11.00",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
           <ICAO>
               <ICAOIdent>WOOLY</ICAOIdent>
           </ICAO>
       </ATCWaypoint>
       <ATCWaypoint id="LRP">
           <ATCWaypointType>VOR</ATCWaypointType>
           <WorldPosition>N40° 7' 11.00",W76° 17' 28.00",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
           <ICAO>
               <ICAOIdent>LRP</ICAOIdent>
           </ICAO>
       </ATCWaypoint>
       <ATCWaypoint id="HOUTN">
           <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
           <WorldPosition>N40° 20' 15.00",W75° 49' 38.00",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
           <ICAO>
               <ICAOIdent>HOUTN</ICAOIdent>
           </ICAO>
       </ATCWaypoint>
       <ATCWaypoint id="KAYNE">
           <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
           <WorldPosition>N40° 25' 27.00",W75° 38' 27.00",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
           <ICAO>
               <ICAOIdent>KAYNE</ICAOIdent>
           </ICAO>
       </ATCWaypoint>
       <ATCWaypoint id="PARKE">
           <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
           <WorldPosition>N40° 40' 59.00",W75° 4' 35.00",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
           <ICAO>
               <ICAOIdent>PARKE</ICAOIdent>
           </ICAO>
       </ATCWaypoint>
       <ATCWaypoint id="BWZ">
           <ATCWaypointType>VOR</ATCWaypointType>
           <WorldPosition>N40° 47' 54.00",W74° 49' 18.00",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
           <ICAO>
               <ICAOIdent>BWZ</ICAOIdent>
           </ICAO>
       </ATCWaypoint>
       <ATCWaypoint id="SAX">
           <ATCWaypointType>VOR</ATCWaypointType>
           <WorldPosition>N41° 4' 3.00",W74° 32' 17.00",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
           <ICAO>
               <ICAOIdent>SAX</ICAOIdent>
           </ICAO>
       </ATCWaypoint>
       <ATCWaypoint id="FLOSI">
           <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
           <WorldPosition>N41° 32' 36.00",W74° 20' 2.00",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
           <ICAO>
               <ICAOIdent>FLOSI</ICAOIdent>
           </ICAO>
       </ATCWaypoint>
       <ATCWaypoint id="WEETS">
           <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
           <WorldPosition>N41° 51' 27.00",W74° 11' 51.00",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
           <ICAO>
               <ICAOIdent>WEETS</ICAOIdent>
           </ICAO>
       </ATCWaypoint>
       <ATCWaypoint id="ACOVE">
           <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
           <WorldPosition>N42° 14' 5.00",W74° 1' 54.00",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
           <ICAO>
               <ICAOIdent>ACOVE</ICAOIdent>
           </ICAO>
       </ATCWaypoint>
       <ATCWaypoint id="ALB">
           <ATCWaypointType>VOR</ATCWaypointType>
           <WorldPosition>N42° 44' 50.00",W73° 48' 11.00",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
           <ICAO>
               <ICAOIdent>ALB</ICAOIdent>
           </ICAO>
       </ATCWaypoint>
       <ATCWaypoint id="RUMMY">
           <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
           <WorldPosition>N43° 28' 41.00",W72° 10' 38.00",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
           <ICAO>
               <ICAOIdent>RUMMY</ICAOIdent>
           </ICAO>
       </ATCWaypoint>
       <ATCWaypoint id="SQUAM">
           <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
           <WorldPosition>N43° 46' 40.00",W71° 29' 0.00",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
           <ICAO>
               <ICAOIdent>SQUAM</ICAOIdent>
           </ICAO>
       </ATCWaypoint>
       <ATCWaypoint id="FRIAR">
           <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
           <WorldPosition>N44° 26' 28.00",W69° 53' 4.00",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
           <ICAO>
               <ICAOIdent>FRIAR</ICAOIdent>
           </ICAO>
       </ATCWaypoint>
       <ATCWaypoint id="BGR">
           <ATCWaypointType>VOR</ATCWaypointType>
           <WorldPosition>N44° 50' 30.00",W68° 52' 26.00",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
           <ICAO>
               <ICAOIdent>BGR</ICAOIdent>
           </ICAO>
       </ATCWaypoint>
       <ATCWaypoint id="YSJ">
           <ATCWaypointType>VOR</ATCWaypointType>
           <WorldPosition>N45° 24' 25.00",W65° 52' 15.00",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
           <ICAO>
               <ICAOIdent>YSJ</ICAOIdent>
           </ICAO>
       </ATCWaypoint>
       <ATCWaypoint id="YYG">
           <ATCWaypointType>VOR</ATCWaypointType>
           <WorldPosition>N46° 17' 50.00",W63° 7' 10.00",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
           <ICAO>
               <ICAOIdent>YYG</ICAOIdent>
           </ICAO>
       </ATCWaypoint>
       <ATCWaypoint id="UMETI">
           <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
           <WorldPosition>N47° 34' 47.00",W59° 15' 29.00",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
           <ICAO>
               <ICAOIdent>UMETI</ICAOIdent>
           </ICAO>
       </ATCWaypoint>
       <ATCWaypoint id="YQX">
           <ATCWaypointType>VOR</ATCWaypointType>
           <WorldPosition>N48° 53' 58.00",W54° 32' 5.00",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
           <ICAO>
               <ICAOIdent>YQX</ICAOIdent>
           </ICAO>
       </ATCWaypoint>
       <ATCWaypoint id="5047N">
           <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
           <WorldPosition>N50° 0' 0.00",W47° 0' 0.00",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
           <ICAO>
               <ICAOIdent>5047N</ICAOIdent>
           </ICAO>
       </ATCWaypoint>
       <ATCWaypoint id="5139N">
           <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
           <WorldPosition>N51° 0' 0.00",W39° 0' 0.00",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
           <ICAO>
               <ICAOIdent>5139N</ICAOIdent>
           </ICAO>
       </ATCWaypoint>
       <ATCWaypoint id="5131N">
           <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
           <WorldPosition>N51° 0' 0.00",W31° 0' 0.00",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
           <ICAO>
               <ICAOIdent>5131N</ICAOIdent>
           </ICAO>
       </ATCWaypoint>
       <ATCWaypoint id="5123N">
           <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
           <WorldPosition>N51° 0' 0.00",W23° 0' 0.00",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
           <ICAO>
               <ICAOIdent>5123N</ICAOIdent>
           </ICAO>
       </ATCWaypoint>
       <ATCWaypoint id="5115N">
           <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
           <WorldPosition>N51° 0' 0.00",W15° 0' 0.00",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
           <ICAO>
               <ICAOIdent>5115N</ICAOIdent>
           </ICAO>
       </ATCWaypoint>
       <ATCWaypoint id="LESLU">
           <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
           <WorldPosition>N51° 0' 0.00",W8° 0' 0.00",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
           <ICAO>
               <ICAOIdent>LESLU</ICAOIdent>
           </ICAO>
       </ATCWaypoint>
       <ATCWaypoint id="INSUN">
           <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
           <WorldPosition>N50° 23' 43.00",W6° 19' 23.00",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
           <ICAO>
               <ICAOIdent>INSUN</ICAOIdent>
           </ICAO>
       </ATCWaypoint>
       <ATCWaypoint id="LND">
           <ATCWaypointType>VOR</ATCWaypointType>
           <WorldPosition>N50° 8' 10.00",W5° 38' 13.00",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
           <ICAO>
               <ICAOIdent>LND</ICAOIdent>
           </ICAO>
       </ATCWaypoint>
       <ATCWaypoint id="DOLUR">
           <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
           <WorldPosition>N49° 29' 4.00",W5° 3' 25.00",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
           <ICAO>
               <ICAOIdent>DOLUR</ICAOIdent>
           </ICAO>
       </ATCWaypoint>
       <ATCWaypoint id="FIR01">
           <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
           <WorldPosition>N49° 27' 21.00",W5° 1' 56.00",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
           <ICAO>
               <ICAOIdent>FIR01</ICAOIdent>
           </ICAO>
       </ATCWaypoint>
       <ATCWaypoint id="GANTO">
           <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
           <WorldPosition>N49° 23' 49.00",W4° 58' 51.00",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
           <ICAO>
               <ICAOIdent>GANTO</ICAOIdent>
           </ICAO>
       </ATCWaypoint>
       <ATCWaypoint id="NERLA">
           <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
           <WorldPosition>N48° 59' 35.00",W4° 37' 55.00",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
           <ICAO>
               <ICAOIdent>NERLA</ICAOIdent>
           </ICAO>
       </ATCWaypoint>
       <ATCWaypoint id="RUSIB">
           <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
           <WorldPosition>N48° 58' 37.00",W3° 48' 30.00",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
           <ICAO>
               <ICAOIdent>RUSIB</ICAOIdent>
           </ICAO>
       </ATCWaypoint>
       <ATCWaypoint id="BETUV">
           <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
           <WorldPosition>N48° 57' 16.00",W3° 7' 19.00",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
           <ICAO>
               <ICAOIdent>BETUV</ICAOIdent>
           </ICAO>
       </ATCWaypoint>
       <ATCWaypoint id="KOKOS">
           <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
           <WorldPosition>N48° 54' 25.00",W1° 40' 33.00",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
           <ICAO>
               <ICAOIdent>KOKOS</ICAOIdent>
           </ICAO>
       </ATCWaypoint>
       <ATCWaypoint id="GALBO">
           <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
           <WorldPosition>N48° 50' 17.00",W0° 15' 0.00",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
           <ICAO>
               <ICAOIdent>GALBO</ICAOIdent>
           </ICAO>
       </ATCWaypoint>
       <ATCWaypoint id="LGL">
           <ATCWaypointType>VOR</ATCWaypointType>
           <WorldPosition>N48° 47' 26.00",E0° 31' 49.00",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
           <ICAO>
               <ICAOIdent>LGL</ICAOIdent>
           </ICAO>
       </ATCWaypoint>
       <ATCWaypoint id="DITAL">
           <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
           <WorldPosition>N48° 44' 40.00",E0° 53' 21.00",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
           <ICAO>
               <ICAOIdent>DITAL</ICAOIdent>
           </ICAO>
       </ATCWaypoint>
       <ATCWaypoint id="PIGOP">
           <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
           <WorldPosition>N48° 41' 8.00",E1° 20' 20.00",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
           <ICAO>
               <ICAOIdent>PIGOP</ICAOIdent>
           </ICAO>
       </ATCWaypoint>
       <ATCWaypoint id="TABOV">
           <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
           <WorldPosition>N48° 38' 39.00",E1° 38' 56.00",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
           <ICAO>
               <ICAOIdent>TABOV</ICAOIdent>
           </ICAO>
       </ATCWaypoint>
       <ATCWaypoint id="RESMI">
           <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
           <WorldPosition>N48° 34' 6.00",E2° 11' 30.00",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
           <ICAO>
               <ICAOIdent>RESMI</ICAOIdent>
           </ICAO>
       </ATCWaypoint>
       <ATCWaypoint id="ODEBU">
           <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
           <WorldPosition>N48° 16' 51.00",E2° 37' 34.00",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
           <ICAO>
               <ICAOIdent>ODEBU</ICAOIdent>
           </ICAO>
       </ATCWaypoint>
       <ATCWaypoint id="OGULO">
           <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
           <WorldPosition>N48° 13' 5.00",E2° 40' 9.00",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
           <ICAO>
               <ICAOIdent>OGULO</ICAOIdent>
           </ICAO>
       </ATCWaypoint>
       <ATCWaypoint id="LUSAR">
           <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
           <WorldPosition>N46° 40' 8.00",E5° 10' 45.00",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
           <ICAO>
               <ICAOIdent>LUSAR</ICAOIdent>
           </ICAO>
       </ATCWaypoint>
       <ATCWaypoint id="SAUNI">
           <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
           <WorldPosition>N46° 37' 24.00",E5° 28' 40.00",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
           <ICAO>
               <ICAOIdent>SAUNI</ICAOIdent>
           </ICAO>
       </ATCWaypoint>
       <ATCWaypoint id="LIRKO">
           <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
           <WorldPosition>N46° 34' 14.00",E5° 48' 51.00",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
           <ICAO>
               <ICAOIdent>LIRKO</ICAOIdent>
           </ICAO>
       </ATCWaypoint>
       <ATCWaypoint id="DINIG">
           <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
           <WorldPosition>N46° 29' 43.00",E5° 53' 26.00",+000000.00</WorldPosition>
           <ICAO>
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Title: Re: Problems with transatlantic flight
Post by Markoz on Aug 14th, 2013 at 2:50am
That's not quite what I meant, but it will do. I'll use that to create a new PLN file (or just use the waypoints within it if necessary) and then give it a test.

I create flights using FSC 9 (now at version 9.3). It makes it easier with figuring out which SID's, Jet Airways, STAR's and Transitions to use for the flight I plan to do. It can also download the latest North Atlantic Tracks for use in the flight plan. This is why I asked where you got the Atlantic Tracks (I forgot to write North Atlantic Tracks in my previous reply) info from.

Title: Re: Problems with transatlantic flight
Post by Markoz on Aug 14th, 2013 at 1:25pm
Okay. I've done your flight. It went fine. BUT....

1. After pasting the route into notepad and saving it as a PLN, I could not open it in FSX. Every time it "loaded", the flight plan remained as nothing.

2. I can't find the first 3 waypoints! STOIC, DIXXE or JEFFW. Nor could I find the waypoints KAYNE and INSUN. I can't find them in FSC9, FS Map or FS Flight Planner. Not even at the LON/LAT co-ordinates in the PLN you gave. So how did you create the flight plan? Did you use the default FS Flight Planner? :o

3. The LRP waypoint was not a problem for me at all. Once I reached it, the 767 continued on to the next waypoint and I never saw LRP again over the next 8 or so hours of the flight. I have no idea why it stayed in front of you all the time or why you couldn't delete it. So this one is a mystery to me. :-/


Title: Re: Problems with transatlantic flight
Post by tyler767l on Aug 14th, 2013 at 11:09pm
Hi,


Quote:
1. After pasting the route into notepad and saving it as a PLN, I could not open it in FSX. Every time it "loaded", the flight plan remained as nothing.


Not sure why this happened. It worked fine for me.


Quote:
2. I can't find the first 3 waypoints! STOIC, DIXXE or JEFFW. Nor could I find the waypoints KAYNE and INSUN. I can't find them in FSC9, FS Map or FS Flight Planner. Not even at the LON/LAT co-ordinates in the PLN you gave. So how did you create the flight plan? Did you use the default FS Flight Planner? :o


After you load the flight plan, did you click "find route?" when you do that, FS completely ignores the route you just loaded and makes its own.


Quote:
3. The LRP waypoint was not a problem for me at all. Once I reached it, the 767 continued on to the next waypoint and I never saw LRP again over the next 8 or so hours of the flight. I have no idea why it stayed in front of you all the time or why you couldn't delete it. So this one is a mystery to me. :-/


Me too. But today when I loaded the saved flight, it was still there, but somewhere in the remaining flight, LRP disappeared.  :question

But I was able to finish the flight without any problems.

Thanks

Title: Re: Problems with transatlantic flight
Post by Markoz on Aug 15th, 2013 at 2:53am

Quote:
[quote]1. After pasting the route into notepad and saving it as a PLN, I could not open it in FSX. Every time it "loaded", the flight plan remained as nothing.


Not sure why this happened. It worked fine for me.[/quote]
Me either! :o


Quote:
[quote]2. I can't find the first 3 waypoints! STOIC, DIXXE or JEFFW. Nor could I find the waypoints KAYNE and INSUN. I can't find them in FSC9, FS Map or FS Flight Planner. Not even at the LON/LAT co-ordinates in the PLN you gave. So how did you create the flight plan? Did you use the default FS Flight Planner? :o


After you load the flight plan, did you click "find route?" when you do that, FS completely ignores the route you just loaded and makes its own.[/quote]
I couldn't select "find route", the button was greyed out. That's because the flight plan did not load. After selecting the plan and pressing OPEN to load it, the FS Flight Planner page simply remained BLANK (no departure airport listed, no arrival airport list and therefore no route between them). :( In the end, I created the route using the waypoints as listed in the PLN that I copied from your post. Interestingly enough, the location of KIAD is different in mine:

<DepartureID>KIAD</DepartureID>
       <DepartureLLA>N38° 56' 22.51",W77° 27' 35.18",+000312.00</DepartureLLA>


This is from yours:

<DepartureID>KIAD</DepartureID>
       <DepartureLLA>N38° 56' 50.00",W77° 27' 35.00",+000000.00</DepartureLLA>


The same applies to quite a lot of the waypoints in the route. I curious to find out why they are different. I mean we both ARE using FSX aren't we? :o


Quote:
[quote]3. The LRP waypoint was not a problem for me at all. Once I reached it, the 767 continued on to the next waypoint and I never saw LRP again over the next 8 or so hours of the flight. I have no idea why it stayed in front of you all the time or why you couldn't delete it. So this one is a mystery to me. :-/


Me too. But today when I loaded the saved flight, it was still there, but somewhere in the remaining flight, LRP disappeared.  :question

But I was able to finish the flight without any problems.[/quote]
Definitely a mystery! Anyway, I'm glad you were able to complete the route without problems in the end.

Title: Re: Problems with transatlantic flight
Post by LOU on Aug 15th, 2013 at 6:04pm
I thought I would try this flight too, since I flew it many times in real life in a 767-200.
I did not include page 7 as it was just the hold after a missed approach.
I don't have any current charts, so I just looked on line at Europe high level maps and made up my own route.

Just my 2 cents.  ::)

Lou

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Title: Re: Problems with transatlantic flight
Post by Markoz on Aug 16th, 2013 at 6:18am
I use FSC9, with RouteFinder (free) to get the route with the Jetways provided, then I create the route in the CDU/FMC and add a SID, STAR and ARRIVAL RWY. I do not usually make them with the FS Flight Planner, although I have sometimes saved the FSC9 flight plan as a PLN (in the Documents/Flight Simulator X files folder) and then loaded it into the CDU/FMC, then add the SID, STAR and ARRIVAL RWY to that route and it works fine.

I desperately want to know where those waypoints that I couldn't find in the FS Flight Planner, or FSC9, came from. I'm very curious for the answer to that question. HINT HINT :D ;D ;)

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