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Message started by Lost in Isaan on Aug 9th, 2013 at 11:58am

Title: Tweak "MCP displays OUT with no power"
Post by Lost in Isaan on Aug 9th, 2013 at 11:58am
You want your VC MCP to be DISPLAY Blank when in a 'Cold and Dark' situation?

You'll need to be efficient in *.spb editing or converting the files to XML and editing them in there. Rename the spb files as *.org or something and use the xml, much of a muchness at a small cost in resources.

..\SimObjects\Airplanes\CS_B777-200ER_GE\panel\Captain_Sim.x777.G04 folder there are 4 spd files:-

G04_004_DSP.spb
G04_006_DSP.spb
G04_007_DSP.spb
G04_008_DSP.spb

Where ever you see a <Visibility> syntax add the " (L"FULL COLON"DC_CAPT_FLT_INST_BUS) and" command.

Example from the G04_004_DSP.spb file.


   <Element id="mainDSP">
     <FloatPosition>370.000,5.000</FloatPosition>
     <Visibility>(L:G04_004_BLANK) ! (L:DC_CAPT_FLT_INST_BUS) and</Visibility>
     <Element id="lcd_dot">
       <FloatPosition>150.000,192.000</FloatPosition>
       <Visibility>(L:G04_004_MOD) (L:DC_CAPT_FLT_INST_BUS) and</Visibility>
       <Image id="lcd_dot.bmp" Name="lcd_dot.bmp">
         <Transparent>true</Transparent>
         <Bright>true</Bright>
       </Image>
     </Element>

YES, I know this problem was highlighted to CS back in the dark ages. Excuse the pun!

Tanya! You gotta STOP smiles from corrupting text! THEY ARE FULL COLONS followed by a DC!

Title: Re: Tweak "MCP displays OUT with no power"
Post by Markoz on Aug 10th, 2013 at 4:49am

Lost in Isaan wrote on Aug 9th, 2013 at 11:58am:
You want your VC MCP to be DISPLAY Blank when in a 'Cold and Dark' situation?

You'll need to be efficient in *.spb editing or converting the files to XML and editing them in there. Rename the spb files as *.org or something and use the xml, much of a muchness at a small cost in resources.

..\SimObjects\Airplanes\CS_B777-200ER_GE\panel\Captain_Sim.x777.G04 folder there are 4 spd files:-

G04_004_DSP.spb
G04_006_DSP.spb
G04_007_DSP.spb
G04_008_DSP.spb

Where ever you see a <Visibility> syntax add the " (L"FULL COLON"DC_CAPT_FLT_INST_BUS) and" command.

Example from the G04_004_DSP.spb file.


   <Element id="mainDSP">
     <FloatPosition>370.000,5.000</FloatPosition>
     <Visibility>(L:G04_004_BLANK) ! (L:DC_CAPT_FLT_INST_BUS) and</Visibility>
     <Element id="lcd_dot">
       <FloatPosition>150.000,192.000</FloatPosition>
       <Visibility>(L:G04_004_MOD) (L:DC_CAPT_FLT_INST_BUS) and</Visibility>
       <Image id="lcd_dot.bmp" Name="lcd_dot.bmp">
         <Transparent>true</Transparent>
         <Bright>true</Bright>
       </Image>
     </Element>

YES, I know this problem was highlighted to CS back in the dark ages. Excuse the pun!

Tanya! You gotta STOP smiles from corrupting text! THEY ARE FULL COLONS followed by a DC!

just checkmark the option where it says Check this if you'll be adding code (or don't like smilies) in the reply page (see image below).

   <Element id="mainDSP">
     <FloatPosition>370.000,5.000</FloatPosition>
     <Visibility>(L:G04_004_BLANK) ! (L:DC_CAPT_FLT_INST_BUS) and</Visibility>
     <Element id="lcd_dot">
       <FloatPosition>150.000,192.000</FloatPosition>
       <Visibility>(L:G04_004_MOD) (L:DC_CAPT_FLT_INST_BUS) and</Visibility>
       <Image id="lcd_dot.bmp" Name="lcd_dot.bmp">
         <Transparent>true</Transparent>
         <Bright>true</Bright>
       </Image>
     </Element>



And as you casn see, no "smilies" in the code. ;)

Title: Re: Tweak "MCP displays OUT with no power"
Post by jcmc1405 on Aug 12th, 2013 at 4:46pm
Hello

Im a little bit shamed to ask this. But is there a way to also make the overhead panel dark when the electrical power is off? Its really annoyig that even with no power, all those switches still bright "ON" "AUTO"...  :(

Thank you.

Title: Re: Tweak "MCP displays OUT with no power"
Post by Lost in Isaan on Aug 13th, 2013 at 3:55am
Thanks Mark, missed that during a "senior moment"!

@jcmc1405, can you post a screen shot of what your seeing. Can't remember having that problem although it may have occurred in earlier versions

Right now the ONLY hint of light I'm getting throughout the ENTIRE cockpit is the stripes on the two "Electric Drive Disconnect" buttons (Tags: O03_013_BUT and O03_014_BUT) I'm about to address that too, if I can.

Title: Re: Tweak "MCP displays OUT with no power"
Post by jcmc1405 on Aug 13th, 2013 at 4:02am
Ok I will upload it now.

Title: Re: Tweak "MCP displays OUT with no power"
Post by jcmc1405 on Aug 13th, 2013 at 4:13am

Lost in Isaan wrote on Aug 13th, 2013 at 3:55am:
Thanks Mark, missed that during a "senior moment"!

@jcmc1405, can you post a screen shot of what your seeing. Can't remember having that problem although it may have occurred in earlier versions

Right now the ONLY hint of light I'm getting throughout the ENTIRE cockpit is the stripes on the two "Electric Drive Disconnect" buttons (Tags: O03_013_BUT and O03_014_BUT) I'm about to address that too, if I can.


Ok, here it goes. By the way. I am using V1.2


Title: Re: Tweak "MCP displays OUT with no power"
Post by Lost in Isaan on Aug 13th, 2013 at 4:59am
Yes, that problem falls into the topic raised by this thread. CS defaults these switches ON but forgot to tell the lamps that there is no power.

I've just fixed the two stripes on the generator drives by doing this to the O03_013_LT1.spb and O03_014_LT1.spb files:

Adding the <Visibility>(L:DC_CAPT_FLT_INST_BUS)</Visibility> Command line to the files.

I've had to do this in many locations including the pilot and co pilots ALARM switches.






Title: Re: Tweak "MCP displays OUT with no power"
Post by jcmc1405 on Aug 13th, 2013 at 6:08am

Lost in Isaan wrote on Aug 13th, 2013 at 4:59am:
Yes, that problem falls into the topic raised by this thread. CS defaults these switches ON but forgot to tell the lamps that there is no power.

I've just fixed the two stripes on the generator drives by doing this to the O03_013_LT1.spb and O03_014_LT1.spb files:

Adding the <Visibility>(L:DC_CAPT_FLT_INST_BUS)</Visibility> Command line to the files.

I've had to do this in many locations including the pilot and co pilots ALARM switches.


Yeah I see it. It is weird that not only the gen drives light up,  but anything that you turn "on" or "auto". It is curious as many of those switches have to be on even when the a/c is not powered, like the generators. But I'm am sure that even that way they must not be bright.

So, if I do what you say above, will that fix the overhead too? Thanks.




Title: Re: Tweak "MCP displays OUT with no power"
Post by Lost in Isaan on Aug 14th, 2013 at 5:02am

jcmc1405 wrote on Aug 13th, 2013 at 6:08am:


So, if I do what you say above, will that fix the overhead too? Thanks.



For the most part YES. Just gone back and counted up the files I have modified for this problem, over time and versions, so far there is some 118 of them.

I'm pretty sure that at the end of the day CS will address the issue in a less messy way probably in their internal *.mdl file.

EDIT: Now 120, the Alternate Flaps switch code now modified. I've gotta get a life, go out and smell the roses or something!

Title: Re: Tweak "MCP displays OUT with no power"
Post by jcmc1405 on Aug 15th, 2013 at 5:42pm

Lost in Isaan wrote on Aug 14th, 2013 at 5:02am:

jcmc1405 wrote on Aug 13th, 2013 at 6:08am:


So, if I do what you say above, will that fix the overhead too? Thanks.



For the most part YES. Just gone back and counted up the files I have modified for this problem, over time and versions, so far there is some 118 of them.

I'm pretty sure that at the end of the day CS will address the issue in a less messy way probably in their internal *.mdl file.

EDIT: Now 120, the Alternate Flaps switch code now modified. I've gotta get a life, go out and smell the roses or something!


Haha. I really appreciate what you do. You should work for CS  8-)

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