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Message started by Herky78 on Aug 1st, 2013 at 8:22pm

Title: Solution: CTD / FATAL ERROR (Captain_Sim.c130.gau)
Post by Herky78 on Aug 1st, 2013 at 8:22pm
Hello herculesdrivers,

if you've got trouble loading the C-130:

TURN OFF ACCUFEEL
TURN OFF FSSOUNDSTREAM
(via FSX->Menu->Add-Ons)

You can RE-ACTIVATE those nice tools AFTER the correct initialization, which ALWAYS includes to CYCLE 2D-Panel -> VC -> Spot View (don't forget!)


It works fine on my system, Win7/64 but you have to TURN OFF both tools and RESTART FSX BEFORE you can select another C-130 version!


(Don't know exactly but it seems "Captain_Sim.c130.gau" doesn't work together with the tools mentioned above; if you disable this gauge, you don't need to turn the tools off but also don't enjoy the nice sounds like GTC or AlarmJump etc. Should be worth been fixed since it was build in 2008...)

yours sincerely


Title: Re: Solution: CTD / FATAL ERROR (Captain_Sim.c130.gau)
Post by KSATBob on Sep 7th, 2013 at 5:12pm
Since I can not post a new topic I have been directed by Captain Sim to reply to the closest topic. So, I am getting a CTD but not related to gauges. I was on a long flight and nearly 3/4 of the way complete when I got an ATC check-in messages. I replied and as soon as the Roger came back, my CTD occurred. IFR flight, no add-ons other than UTX and MyTraffic 5.4C. Any ideas, suggestions, related issues or guidance would be greatly appreciated. Not sure but it seems to be happening only when I use a C-130J. Thanks, Bob

Title: Re: Solution: CTD / FATAL ERROR (Captain_Sim.c130.gau)
Post by Markoz on Sep 7th, 2013 at 5:47pm
Did you start FSX, load the C-130, the have the CTD 3/4 of the way through the flight? Or were you using other aircraft (one or more) prior to switching to the C-130?

The reason I'm asking this is because I can fly for ages in FSX, then, out of the blue I get a CTD! I especially get a CTD when swapping between two high end addon aircraft. This led me to finish a flight, exit FSX, then restart FSX, do another flight.

Title: Re: Solution: CTD / FATAL ERROR (Captain_Sim.c130.gau)
Post by KSATBob on Sep 10th, 2013 at 3:02pm
New flight with the C-130J. Initially I did not have extra packs 1 & 2 installed and did not have a CTD. After installing packs 1 & 2, and flying the C-130J I started having the problem. Since that time I have uninstalled packs 1 & 2 and still have the problem. I have tried numerous combinations to isolate the problem including not using all the gauges (radar, pressurization, oxygen, etc) but still have the problem. I have used the startup cycle of 2d cockpit, vc and locked spot before using any gauges and still have the problem. I have even uninstalled the C-130 and reinstalled. Thanks for the feedback I will make sure it is a "clean" startup and try again............. :(

Title: Re: Solution: CTD / FATAL ERROR (Captain_Sim.c130.gau)
Post by wingclip on Sep 11th, 2013 at 10:09pm

Herky78 wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 8:22pm:
Hello herculesdrivers,

if you've got trouble loading the C-130:

TURN OFF ACCUFEEL
TURN OFF FSSOUNDSTREAM
(via FSX->Menu->Add-Ons)

You can RE-ACTIVATE those nice tools AFTER the correct initialization, which ALWAYS includes to CYCLE 2D-Panel -> VC -> Spot View (don't forget!)


It works fine on my system, Win7/64 but you have to TURN OFF both tools and RESTART FSX BEFORE you can select another C-130 version!


(Don't know exactly but it seems "Captain_Sim.c130.gau" doesn't work together with the tools mentioned above; if you disable this gauge, you don't need to turn the tools off but also don't enjoy the nice sounds like GTC or AlarmJump etc. Should be worth been fixed since it was build in 2008...)

yours sincerely




I haven't tried it yet but AccuFeel has a Glitch with the "Turbulence" setting slider. In fact, they instruct to slide the bottom one of the three, all the way to the left, (off). I was getting that mess on a different aircraft and found out that this is what caused it.

But as I said, I haven't tried it on my C130 yet, (I’ve been reinstalling FSX fresh to a new 'dedicated' HDD after installing a SSD for a fresh installation of Windows 7 O/S for the last 4 weeks or so.

So I just reinstalled my CS C130 and need to starting up and see what happens but if I have any trouble and the Turbulence slider 'trick' doesn't work, I'll definitely try your suggestion! The fact is, I’ve been just cutting off all 3 turbulence slider adjustments so I wouldn’t be fighting some strange behavior. That’s happened a few times and I always forget to try going after the AccuFeel first :(.
Thanks, Rich

Title: Re: Solution: CTD / FATAL ERROR (Captain_Sim.c130.gau)
Post by KSATBob on Sep 12th, 2013 at 12:07am
Markoz: "Did you start FSX, load the C-130, the have the CTD 3/4 of the way through the flight? Or were you using other aircraft (one or more) prior to switching to the C-130?

The reason I'm asking this is because I can fly for ages in FSX, then, out of the blue I get a CTD! I especially get a CTD when swapping between two high end addon aircraft. This led me to finish a flight, exit FSX, then restart FSX, do another flight."

You are CORRECT!! If you have a clean start of FSX and go through the cycle (2D, VC, Locked Spot) everything seems to work fine and NO CTD.............. ;D

Title: Re: Solution: CTD / FATAL ERROR (Captain_Sim.c130.gau)
Post by KSATBob on Sep 12th, 2013 at 5:02pm
I am afraid that I have to correct my earlier response. By having a clean start and going through the cycle of 2D, VC, Locked Spot it did NOT solve my problem. I have eliminated the addons where I set CPU priority and made sure no other add-ons were running but still a CTD about 1/2 through my flight. I am at a loss. I will also go back and deinstall things like DBS FollowMe and see if that is having an effect. I was flying the current C-130E. I do have base pack 1 & 2 installed as well. If I find anything I will post it here.

Title: Re: Solution: CTD / FATAL ERROR (Captain_Sim.c130.gau)
Post by Markoz on Sep 13th, 2013 at 3:48am
I don't think that the other things are causing the CTD. But then it could be an OOM (Out Of Memory) CTD, or it could be that something is not working correctly in the C-130J itself.

Try the flight with the C-130E (from the Base Pack) and see if FSX still CTD's.

You might need to reinstall the Extra Pack I to fix the problem.

The installer might be corrupt, so you might need to download the installer again (using the Extended Download Service) and then reinstall it.
Check-in to Your Profile > Product > Extended Download Service > Get New Links

Title: Re: Solution: CTD / FATAL ERROR (Captain_Sim.c130.gau)
Post by KSATBob on Sep 15th, 2013 at 2:36am
I have determined that the CTD is a result of improper AP settings. If you have the MOD SEL set to GPS you MUST have the switch set to NORMAL. If you have the MOD SEL set to GPS and the switch is set to HEADING, there is a good chance you may get a CTD. Also noted was that if you change these settings in the pop-up that does NOT mean that the settings in the cockpit (either 2D or VC) will reflect that change.

Title: Re: Solution: CTD / FATAL ERROR (Captain_Sim.c130.gau)
Post by Markoz on Sep 16th, 2013 at 3:30am

KSATBob wrote on Sep 15th, 2013 at 2:36am:
I have determined that the CTD is a result of improper AP settings. If you have the MOD SEL set to GPS you MUST have the switch set to NORMAL. If you have the MOD SEL set to GPS and the switch is set to HEADING, there is a good chance you may get a CTD. Also noted was that if you change these settings in the pop-up that does NOT mean that the settings in the cockpit (either 2D or VC) will reflect that change.

My 2D and VC A/P match each other. If I change anything on the 2D A/P it is copied in the VC, if I change anything on the VC A/P it is copied on the 2D A/P. Both of them move at the same time too (synchronized). I wonder why yours is different. :-/
Also. I always have the switch set to HEADING. I have never used it in the NORMAL position.

Title: Re: Solution: CTD / FATAL ERROR (Captain_Sim.c130.gau)
Post by KSATBob on Sep 16th, 2013 at 5:35pm
KSATBob wrote on Sep 14th, 2013, 9:36pm:

I have determined that the CTD is a result of improper AP settings. If you have the MOD SEL set to GPS you MUST have the switch set to NORMAL. If you have the MOD SEL set to GPS and the switch is set to HEADING, there is a good chance you may get a CTD. Also noted was that if you change these settings in the pop-up that does NOT mean that the settings in the cockpit (either 2D or VC) will reflect that change.

My 2D and VC A/P match each other. If I change anything on the 2D A/P it is copied in the VC, if I change anything on the VC A/P it is copied on the 2D A/P. Both of them move at the same time too (synchronized). I wonder why yours is different.
Also. I always have the switch set to HEADING. I have never used it in the NORMAL position.


I MUST have the switch set to NORMAL if I expect the AP to fly my flight plan course. Interesting that we are getting different results. I can't post the links here but I do have a drop box with pictures of both 2D and VC with the switches not coordinanted.

Title: Re: Solution: CTD / FATAL ERROR (Captain_Sim.c130.gau)
Post by Markoz on Sep 17th, 2013 at 7:56am
I've just done a test flight.

C-130J
GPS flight plan
MODE SEL Switch set to GPS
FLT DIR – AUTO PILOT Switch set to NORMAL

After takeoff, I use the A/P with the MODE SEL Switch set to HDG and intercepted my GPS flight plan.
For the en-route flight, I used the MODE SEL Switch set to GPS
For the Approach, I used the MODE SEL Switch set to HDG until I intercepted the ILS, where I switched it to VOR/ILS 1
To capture the G/S, I switched the A/P GLIDE button.
The flight went perfect all the way, not once did the 2D A/P Panel or VC A/P Panels disagree, they were synchronized for they entire flight.

This was the first flight I have ever done in any of the Captain Sim C-130's, and I honestly can't see any difference with the switch in NORMAL or MANUAL. The behaviour of the A/P was the same regardless of that switch setting. So it explains why I have never used the C-130 with the switch set to normal.

Are you sure that all the installers for your Base Pack and Extra Pack I & II are all the same version, AND the latest version, v1.3, as well? I still recommend downloading all the installers again, and then reinstall them all in the hope that it will fix the problem.

Note: I have the Captain Sim C-130 X-perience, which is the Base Pack, Extra Pack I and Extra Pack II all combined in a single installation file (csp131_1300.exe). Whether this makes a difference, or not, I don't know.


Quote:
I can't post the links here but I do have a drop box with pictures of both 2D and VC with the switches not coordinanted.

You can still paste the links (without using the format buttons) in your reply, I will just have to copy and paste them in the browser address bar so I can view them. ;)

Title: Re: Solution: CTD / FATAL ERROR (Captain_Sim.c130.gau)
Post by KSATBob on Sep 18th, 2013 at 8:09pm
2D AP settings, note difference between pop-up and panel:

app.box.com/s/h4wzxcucp7iz6o96q3ly

VC AP settings, again note difference between pop-up and panel:

app.box.com/s/ao7q3jgzobe749eq16tw

I purchased the C-130 Experience before Extra packs 1 & 2 were purchased and installed AFTER C-130 Base. Maybe there is a difference?

Title: Re: Solution: CTD / FATAL ERROR (Captain_Sim.c130.gau)
Post by KSATBob on Sep 18th, 2013 at 8:13pm

KSATBob wrote on Sep 18th, 2013 at 8:09pm:
2D AP settings, note difference between pop-up and panel:

app.box.com/s/h4wzxcucp7iz6o96q3ly

VC AP settings, again note difference between pop-up and panel:

app.box.com/s/ao7q3jgzobe749eq16tw

I purchased the C-130 Experience before Extra packs 1 & 2 were purchased and installed AFTER C-130 Base. Maybe there is a difference?


Sorry, captions are reference first one is VC and second one is 2D..

Title: Re: Solution: CTD / FATAL ERROR (Captain_Sim.c130.gau)
Post by KSATBob on Sep 21st, 2013 at 11:37pm

Markoz wrote on Sep 17th, 2013 at 7:56am:
Base Pack and Extra Pack I & II are all the same version, AND the latest version, v1.3, as well?


I went back and checked and all three Base and Extra Packs are all 1.3. I guess we just have to chaulk this up as just an unexplained issue. Thanks for your help, MUCH appreciated.

Bob

Title: Re: Solution: CTD / FATAL ERROR (Captain_Sim.c130.gau)
Post by Markoz on Sep 22nd, 2013 at 11:09am
Sorry for lack of response to this, but my FSX has "chucked a fit" and I am about to do a reinstall (not repair). I have tried repairing FSX, about 7 times, but the problem remains the same. So fun and games for me are ahead!

Anyway. Back to you problem. I see that all, but the NORMAL/MANUAL switch, are in the same position. Do they work in sync with each other? Or did you move the 2D A/P switches to match the VC A/P switches?

The NORMAL/MANUAL Switch is never synchronous for me. But even though the switches were either in the same (NORMAL & NORMAL or MANUAL & MANUAL), or opposite positions (NORMAL & MANUAL or MANUAL & NORMAL), the A/P performed the same. I did not encounter any crash and it followed my GPS route perfectly fine. It is almost like the NORMAL/MANUAL switch is a dummy switch, it appears to be INOP!

Nothing I did with the C-130J and the A/P switches cause a CTD in FSX. It just happily flew along the route to the. :-/

Title: Re: Solution: CTD / FATAL ERROR (Captain_Sim.c130.gau)
Post by udidwht on Feb 27th, 2014 at 6:47am
After reading this thread I see the OP has My Traffic X 5.4c...looking at their forums they seem to be having issues with 5.4c. I'll bet that's where the issue lies.

Title: Re: Solution: CTD / FATAL ERROR (Captain_Sim.c130.gau)
Post by Fabriziooo on Mar 2nd, 2014 at 6:52pm
Hello

I also have the C-130 but i can retrieve my order number...

The problem i have is that its not updated and with the extra pack 1, i cant control the direction when i'm not in cockpit view...

and with the extra pack 2, i cant control the direction at all, with my joystick or mouse...

I have a key file so if someone can send me the update file it would be gratefully

Title: Re: Solution: CTD / FATAL ERROR (Captain_Sim.c130.gau)
Post by Markoz on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 1:31am
If the KEY files were generated using a different computer, they won't work on the one you have now.

You will need to wait until Tanya sees this post so she can give you a link a form to fill in about changing the email address to your current one.

Note: I bought the C-130 X-perience All-in-One, so I only have the one file. You KEY files definitely won't work with it. Sorry.

Title: Re: Solution: CTD / FATAL ERROR (Captain_Sim.c130.gau)
Post by Captain Sim 2 on Mar 6th, 2014 at 9:09am
Fabriziooo, please use this form: http://www.captainsim.com/cgi-bin/user_.pl?action=rescue

Title: Re: Solution: CTD / FATAL ERROR (Captain_Sim.c130.gau)
Post by gcbraun on Jun 24th, 2014 at 7:42pm
Great tips on this post!

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