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Message started by trevm on Jul 14th, 2013 at 4:54am

Title: Re: 767/757 Approach Advice
Post by Markoz on Jan 5th, 2014 at 2:01am

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There are actually quite a few STARS and TRANS that I canīt find in my system. Such as OLM8 (I have OLM7) SONDR and HAWKS3. I havenīt changed my cycles from the original May05June01/11.
It can make it difficult, especially when a tutorial is done for an earlier AIRAC cycle than the one currently in use (if you happen to do an update/or update monthly). But I can use FSC9 or PFPX to create a route similar to a tutorial, by using the same jetways, but with slightly different waypoints, due to changes.


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I then tried to make some other arrivals using other STARS and TRANS, deleting waypoints to smoothen up the approaches. But then I ended up with endless missing T/D issues :(
There is a trick to removing waypoints and still being able to get the T/D, but it can take a lot of messing around with to get it. What I do is take note of all the waypoints in the STAR/TRANS and the APPROACH/TRANS, and all speed and altitude constraints that go with them. Then I select a runway (as in 34R, NOT ILS34R) and then manually enter the waypoints and any speed/altitude constraints, leaving out the ones I don't want to use. In the case of KSEA 34R, it could mean leaving out some waypoints from the APPROACH/TRANS IF the heading is going to require a 180o turn. From memory, doing that allows me to have a T/D, but keeping that waypoint prior to the runway waypoint, (i.e. CF34R before RW34R).


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Would it help to update the Navigraph base to a new Cycle?
There are some differences between AIRAC cycle 1313 and 1105, but probably not a huge difference. As I said in a reply in the 777 Captain - Tech issues > FMC (incl LNAV, VNAV) forum:


Markoz wrote on Jan 1st, 2014 at 4:25am:

fuzzy11 wrote on Dec 31st, 2013 at 9:49pm:
How do you deal with having FSX nav data out of date versus FMC data being very up to date?
It does make it hard because things do change over time. For example, YMML SID DOSEL8 used to be DOSEL7, but the waypoints in both are the same. Another thing I have noticed is that waypoints do occasionally have name changes, so the name of a waypoint in AIRAC 1212, might be different in AIRAC 1312. One other thing that I think happens, is that when a waypoint name changes, it may not be that it is changed, but that it is removed and replaced with different waypoint, and at different LON/LAT coordinates, than the old ones.

So I wouldn't worry too much about changing it. At a cost of around €25 ($AU38) for 13 cycles ($AU2.93 per cycle), I consider it pretty cheap to update it monthly. If I was flying online for a Virtual Airline, it would make more sense to update it monthly, but I don't, so I have no real reason to update it, other than that I choose to do so.

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