Are there any members installed 777-200 1.2 to Prepar3D? I am having problem.

I copied the 777 v1.2 to P3D and they don't work. Sorry, but I don't know how to fix this problem yet. :(

Almost got it but will have to take a little time to double-check a few things.

I cross my fingers for you :D :D

+1

Installed 1.2 into FSX, then copied all folders and files across, also installed a missing DLL.xml sound reference, but still nothing.  Clutch my thoughts are with you, and lots of us are hanging on your success.

Sorry guys... no luck so far.   :-[

Markoz - I don't drop into these forums often (you tell by my number of posts, ha!), but you appear to be the "Official" or "Unofficial" CS expert/helper.  If official, do you know if CS is purposely trying to keep simmers from using their products in P3D?  I have not heard any official CS statement regarding this.

(I'll just go back to v.08 as that was working for me in P3D).

If so, I will just drop them from my list as for me the platform is waaay more important than any single developer.

Hi Clutch.

As far as I know they are NOT trying to block us from using them in P3D. When I asked about using Captain Sim products in Prepar3D, last year, the response from Captain Sim was yes we can use them with P3D. But at our own risk. This is only because Captain Sim do not make their products for P3D, only for FSX.

I would love it if they were to do them for both FSX and P3D, but only they can decide whether they will or not. :(

I have a VC with clickeable switches and rotaries but absolutely no response ..  no life.  Not even the battery will turn on.

In outside view there is no undercarriage, although the doors are open.

I have downloaded twice, uninstalled and reinstalled both the 1.2 and the 2.0.  

Should I reinstall the 1.2 and install over the top?  All else has failed though others have obviously succeeded. :'(

This is typical of the problems that occur when the activation has failed.
Have you tried doing a Manual Offline Activation?

Have you done the FULL uninstall/reinstall as described in KB #685?

Hi Markoz, yes I have completely uninstalled v1.x, cleaned out the folders, rebooted and then installed v1.2.   I also uninstalled the Expansion.  Rebooted, nothing as above.  I then uninstalled the new version complete with folders, re-downloaded, then installed  ...  same result.  So activation must be at the centre of the problem.  I will now uninstall, reboot then reinstall trying to activate offline as you suggest.

As stated by Markoz on how to get this going already.....
Just make sure do all the uninstall, removal from Add program and by doing search for any CS777* on your system folders.
Install the 1.2 and reboot your PC.
Then run FSX with some sort of default twin turbo prop as your starting flight. Do not select that twin prop plane and fly now. You need to select the B777 you want to fly and then click fly now.
When you select the 777, launch FSX and you see the B777 sitting on the runway.....Do not select another 777 because you change your mind and want to fly another livery instead.
You need to exit out and do the start up process again by selecting the livery you want to fly this time.
Once you got this routine square away with your B777 all running good ready for take off (no pending message on EICAS), then install the rest of your add-ons like the 300ER and the Freighter version. After you install all these...reboot your PC again.

Kin M.
(Klax)

I am having same problems like Macca. If you downloaded  and installed 777-200 1.2 I assume, it is not activation problem,because you already must put the right activation code , if not, it will not allow you continue to installation.
Are you installing to FSX or P3D?

The Captain Sim 777 is made for FSX, not P3D. I have not been able to get v1.2 working in P3D yet. :(
If I ever get it working, I will tell you how to do it. :)

Thanks :D

Yes, I am attempting to put it into P3D.   Does this mean CS have joined the few companies deliberately blocking installation into the other sim?  Or is there a technical glitch at work.  The previous version installed easily and I shall return to that.  I have never had a problem using the FSXtoP3D migrator, and certainly not with the previous version.  Ah well, Star Wars continues.

PS, I love the CS 767 which flies beautifully in P3D ...  as does the C130.  I am thinking of a workaround and will call back!

macca22au wrote on Jul 13^th, 2013 at 12:43am:

PS, I love the CS 767 which flies beautifully in P3D ...  as does the C130.  I am thinking of a workaround and will call back!

All of them fly beautifully in P3D (well except for 777 v1.2). I am trying to think of something that might fix this in P3D, but I have not tried anything yet. Having trouble getting quite a few addons working in P3D, is the major reason for why FSX is still installed on my computer.

I also have CS 727 and 707 in P3D.They are perfect. Some reason 777-200 1.2 has problems.
Before  every time when I started P3D with 700-200 P3D crashed.
Thanks to Markoz  found the problem and solved with small changes in Panel. cfg file adding  " // " beginning of " gauge02 line"
I am sure he will also find a solution for 777 1.2
:D
[Window00]
file=bg.bmp
background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=1024,768
window_size_ratio=1.00  
visible=1
ident=MAIN_PANEL
render_3d_window=0
window_size= 1.000, 1.000
window_pos= 0.000, 0.000
gauge00=Captain_Sim.x777.sys!main, 0,0, 1,1
gauge01=Captain_Sim.x777.sound!main, 0,0,1,1,Captain_Sim\777\sound.ini
//gauge02=Captain_Sim.x777.update!Main, 0, 0,  3, 3[/b]
gauge03=Captain_Sim.x777.wxr!main,1,1,1,1

I tried commenting out the update gauge too. I think ACE can do it for you, but I don't think it works for P3D though.
I can't verify this because FSX is installed on my computer as well and so even from Prepar3D\Captain_Sim\777\ace, it changes the 777 FSX (well the Pax/Cargo changes in FSX). :(

Also, you should change the number on the final gauge:

[Window00]
.....
gauge00=Captain_Sim.x777.sys!main, 0,0, 1,1
gauge01=Captain_Sim.x777.sound!main, 0,0,1,1,Captain_Sim\777\sound.ini
//gauge02=Captain_Sim.x777.update!Main, 0, 0,  3, 3[/b]
gauge02=Captain_Sim.x777.wxr!main,1,1,1,1 <- make this gauge02 to replace the commented out gauge02 update gauge!

It may still work without there being a gauge02, but I haven't checked this.

I changed  the gauge03  number to 2. It didn't help.
There is  no electrical  power. Engine are working background.

If there is a  electrical power gauges, It is not compatible with P3D. It need to be replace. I don't know if I am making any sense or not.
Landing gears are missing.

Well, some I got some good news and some not so good news...

Good news - I got it working in Prepar3D.

Not so good news - Not really sure how I did it, ha!  ;D

Let's see, I did use the comment out line as those done before.  But I messed with the Registry trying to trick the paths as to whether I was installing to FSX or P3D.

I think I:

1. Uninstalled everything (777 that is) on both FSX and P3D.
2. Installed 777 in FSX to make sure everything was working correctly.  It was.
3. Installed version 0.800 on P3D using the Migrator tool.  My plan was originally to compare 0.800 to 1.2 files, filenames and sizes to see if f I could find any differences.
4. I then went to the registry and searched on 'captainsim' to what was in there.  I found a section for the 777 showing the paths for uninstalling and where it was installed.  That was my FSX path.
5. I changed the path(s) to where my P3D is installed and then installed 777 v 1.2 once again.
6. It came up as a "repair" this time and continued with the repair but to P3D.
7. Went back to the registry and changed all paths back to the FSX paths.
8. Rebooted the PC just to be sure.
9. And now it seems to be working.

I think it's working as I noticed there was a difference in the opacity of the engines when running.  You can see through them alot more in v1.2.  The landing gear is there and so all all the gauges and surface controls.

Note the version in ACE showing 1.2.0.0 so I think it's correct but I'm sure experts can verify.  

Sure seems to be real heavy in FPS in the VC.  Like I loose 30%.  May be why I was not really using this anymore.  I was planning to just hide the VC and use my cockpit hardware but it appears my GoFlight EFIS and MCPpro will not match up to it.  Funny, some of my Saitek stuff does, though.

Anywho,  please don't take the above as gospel.  I was just messing around and got lucky I think.  Plus I didn't about install and un-installing several times as I have not really customized  anything in there.

That also reminds me several posts here talk about changing the [AUTOPILOT] section with some new numbers.  I checked my cfg and those numbers were already there?  Oh well...  all in good fun!

---

CC,
Thanks, It is a great news.
I have two problems:

1-I uninstalled FSX from my PC and I have only P3D
2-I don't have 777 version 0.8. CapatainSim BLOCKED all old versions and allow only 777 1.2 for installation.( I have no idea why it was done like that)

I uninstalled/reinstalled  777 1.2  , checked registry and reinstalled 777.1.2 with the repair. but no success.'

If I go on  reinstall FSX, with out 777 0.800 it will not work. :(

This is the end of  the story. I cannot fly 777.1.2.because I need to have 0.8 version to load 1.2 version to complete the loading.
:( :( :'(

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Strange, I used the Estonia migrator, changed the Gauge entry as per previous versions, fired up P3D, it crashed with a Simconnect problem.

I rebooted the PC, and bingo, CS777 1.2 is flying beautifully.

Markoz wrote on Jul 13^th, 2013 at 2:49am:

macca22au wrote on Jul 13th, 2013 at 12:43am: PS, I love the CS 767 which flies beautifully in P3D ...  as does the C130.  I am thinking of a workaround and will call back! All of them fly beautifully in P3D (well except for 777 v1.2). I am trying to think of something that might fix this in P3D, but I have not tried anything yet. Having trouble getting quite a few addons working in P3D, is the major reason for why FSX is still installed on my computer.

I used to think that P3D was the answer to a superior simulator to FSX, but I have come to realize that P3D is based on the old code from FSX at it's core. So any new features by the P3D developers that are added to P3D could be restricted by the old code that P3D rests on. As it stands now in my opinion, is that FSX with all its warts, is still a slicker simulator then P3D. I believe that possibly XPlane may have the answer to a superior simulator for flight. Here are the pros for XPlane , it has DirectX 11; 3D scenery structures, latest support for the newest advances in graphics; flight model is much more realistic; airports are depicted in a realistic way as opposed to FSX, and P3d, where the airstrip is an unrealistic flat as a pancake, and perfectly level piece of concrete; XPlane is a 64 bit application, thereby allowing for it's unlimited use of all the memory you can throw at it; and it's ability to fully implement multi-core processors to their fullest extent. On the down side XPlane is very unpolished; not user friendly; no in house structures at any airport in the world, except with only one exception; too many useless aircraft, that have very little value as a simulator enthusiast. I believe FSX is the best way to go at present if you take into consideration it's limitations, and not wasting your money on too many scenery upgrades that cover the world, as well as some of the utilities that are useful, but since some work in the background, they take some of the CPU power away from FSX. DirectX 11 is definitely better then directX 9, but to think that when P3d adds directX 11, that it will significantly improve frame rate is in my opinion wishful thinking. I have all three, and I will probably wait for something much better before I drop FSX. Possibly XPlane.

No solution to v1.2 in P3D? :'(

"changed the Gauge entry as per previous versions"
Will you please inform which Gauge entry did you change?
Can you put copy of the Gauge entry line?
THX

asanal wrote on Jul 31^st, 2013 at 1:29am:

"changed the Gauge entry as per previous versions" Will you please inform which Gauge entry did you change? Can you put copy of the Gauge entry line? THX

My gauge entries look like this

gauge00=Captain_Sim.x777.sys!main, 0,0, 1,1
gauge01=Captain_Sim.x777.sound!main, 0,0,1,1,Captain_Sim\777\sound.ini
//gauge02=Captain_Sim.x777.update!Main, 0, 0,  3, 3
gauge03=Captain_Sim.x777.wxr!main,1,1,1,1

I then tried to start P3D in Legacy mode and it crashed. I rebooted the PC and bingo, have done 5 flights with not a hiccup

No still I have no landing gear and  all PDF screens are black.
Thanks

bought the 777 today and used migration tool to install it.  My PC doesn't have FSX installed and the 777 works great in P3D.  I had to run P3D in Legacy mode to make it work. ;)

Confirm that B777 works in P3D Legacy mode if installed via P3D migration tool.
Thanks for the tip ;)

Interesting. But I do have FSX installed and do not really want to use the migration tool to put it in P3D.

Has anyone installed something in both FSX, then in P3D with the migration tool (or vica-versa)? How did it go.
I really should just try it myself, but I'm being lazy! :o :-[

I love Captain Sim and own alot of their products, including the Space Shuttle :D  I was so happy that my $70 CDN wasn't wasted with P3D.  I do own FSX but it's not installed.  Captain Sim 777 + FTX GLOBAL = Sim Heaven :)

p.s  I had to add this in the DLL.xml to get more sounds that were missing:

<Launch.Addon>
    <Name>Captain Sim 777 Sound</Name>
    <Disabled>False</Disabled>
    <Path>Captain_Sim\777\cs.sound.dll</Path>
</Launch.Addon>

I also have to mention/confirm that i'm on Win8 64bit ;)  and the 777 works flawlessly in my P3D.

I have used the migration tool to install CaptainSim 777 in Prepar3D and none of the cockpit gauges work in the VC: the PFD and ND are black and none of the overhead switches work.

I am using Version 1.2 for the 777.

Any help would be more than welcome to get the bird flying in P3D.

I appear to be a newbie to the migration tool. If you run Prepar3D in legacy mode (which you can only do if you run the migration tool in Virtual FSX mode), then the gauges reappear and, indeed, as has been reported, the undercarriage suddenly reappears (otherwise absent)! So don't waste your time responding and I shall be a happy bunny again with CaptainSim in Prepar3D!

LecLightning56 wrote on Aug 24^th, 2013 at 11:33am:

I appear to be a newbie to the migration tool. If you run Prepar3D in legacy mode (which you can only do if you run the migration tool in Virtual FSX mode), then the gauges reappear and, indeed, as has been reported, the undercarriage suddenly reappears (otherwise absent)! So don't waste your time responding and I shall be a happy bunny again with CaptainSim in Prepar3D!

Legacy mode keeps crashing P3D for me. So not so lucky me. :o :-/

Markoz wrote on Aug 25^th, 2013 at 2:58am:

LecLightning56 wrote on Aug 24th, 2013 at 11:33am: I appear to be a newbie to the migration tool. If you run Prepar3D in legacy mode (which you can only do if you run the migration tool in Virtual FSX mode), then the gauges reappear and, indeed, as has been reported, the undercarriage suddenly reappears (otherwise absent)! So don't waste your time responding and I shall be a happy bunny again with CaptainSim in Prepar3D! Legacy mode keeps crashing P3D for me. So not so lucky me. :o :-/

I think it's because you already have fsx installed along with P3D on same computer.  Legacy works better alone with just P3D installed.

how do you activate Legacy  P3D?

You need to have the Estonia Migrator Tool. In the Tool, enable "Virtual FSX", this allows you to install into P3D just about any FSX add on.

You leave "Virtual FSX" enabled in the Migrator tool, you can close the tool, and Virtual FSX will be enabled until you start the tool and disable it.

As long as Virtual FSX is enabled, you will get the "Legacy Mode" option in your Windows Start menu. Just double click on it and away you go.

Thanks
It did work. First time I saw the landing gear and DUs were all on.
Only major problem  was Legacy Mode is not stable in my PC. At least I managed to have 777.

It looks like I cannot have 777 in normal mode. I gave up on CS-777. I will uninstall it and CS-777 will  go to hangar.

Mark,

WKTZ's  following below recommendation works well for P3D. You have TO UTULIZE the Estonia Migrator Tool.
Only problem ,I think   my PC is not working well with Legacy Mode. You do not need uninstall FSX. May be you will manage better then me.

"You need to have the Estonia Migrator Tool. In the Tool, enable "Virtual FSX", this allows you to install into P3D just about any FSX add on.

You leave "Virtual FSX" enabled in the Migrator tool, you can close the tool, and Virtual FSX will be enabled until you start the tool and disable it.

As long as Virtual FSX is enabled, you will get the "Legacy Mode" option in your Windows Start menu. Just double click on it and away you go. "


Ahmet  :D

No  luck either guys.  Worked with the DLL file and Migrator with latest update and no luck.  Looks the only true aircraft other than freeware that are work (oops never mind forgot where I was) anyway some other payware working very well.

Sirxamoc wrote on Oct 31^st, 2013 at 1:06am:

No  luck either guys.  Worked with the DLL file and Migrator with latest update and no luck.  Looks the only true aircraft other than freeware that are work (oops never mind forgot where I was) anyway some other payware working very well.

All the other Captain Sim FSX products work just fine in P3D, it is ONLY their 777 v1.2 that doesn't. I thought it might be the WXR that was the problem, so I removed the entries from the panel.CFG, but that didn't solve it either. It might be the Terrain Radar that's causing it, so I will remove the entries for that in the panel.CFG and try it out.

For all I know, it might be one of the primary function of the 777 that causes the P3D CTD, and if that is the case, I won't bother with it in P3D.
Maybe Captain Sim can sort it out for the next update! We can always hope. ;)

Already FSX market is shrinking for CS .If CS does not react in sooner, will miss the P3D market. :(

asanal wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2013 at 3:29am:

Already FSX market is shrinking for CS .If CS does not react in sooner, will miss the P3D market. :(

My opinion, just an opinion:
1 I believe that CS knows about marketing products for FSX.
2 As soon as released version 2.0 of P3D, will rise to the CS 777 for P3D and fill a gap.
3 The way it will be done, I have to buy a crystal ball!

João Alfredo

I hope so.. :)

I purchased and installed P3D v2 and tried 777. Still same problems remains  no landing gear  and no power,display units are DARK.
What a disappointment, :( :( :(

asanal wrote on Nov 28^th, 2013 at 5:42pm:

I purchased and installed P3D v2 and tried 777. Still same problems remains  no landing gear  and no power,display units are DARK. What a disappointment, :( :( :(

I wouldn't expect it to work in P3D v2 if it isn't working in P3D v1.4. I'm currently taking the CS737-200 for a flight in P3D v2 and it appears to be working just like it works in FSX. So that means the others might work fine too (of course that doesn't include the 777 :()

Ok  I will install CS737-200. : ;)

asanal wrote on Nov 28^th, 2013 at 5:59pm:

Ok  I will install CS737-200. : ;)

I'm not game to test the PDCS yet. It IS known to cause a CTD in FSX, so the question is whether that will happen in P3D v2. :o

Markoz wrote on Nov 28^th, 2013 at 5:53pm:

asanal wrote on Nov 28th, 2013 at 5:42pm: I purchased and installed P3D v2 and tried 777. Still same problems remains  no landing gear  and no power,display units are DARK. What a disappointment, :( :( :( I wouldn't expect it to work in P3D v2 if it isn't working in P3D v1.4. I'm currently taking the CS737-200 for a flight in P3D v2 and it appears to be working just like it works in FSX. So that means the others might work fine too (of course that doesn't include the 777 :()

I was one of the lucky ones...it worked beautifully.

Then my PC died and I installed P3D in my laptop...no go, had to go back to FSX on my laptop but could not run any of my CS fleet.

Finally got a new PC in the last 2 weeks but my CS777 account is locked!!!  Have sent support an email to please unlock it, but so far no response.

As soon as they do, I will load it into P3D2...can't wait to finally fly the big bird again, as well as the 707

WKTZ wrote on Dec 15^th, 2013 at 9:49am:

Finally got a new PC in the last 2 weeks but my CS777 account is locked!!!  Have sent support an email to please unlock it, but so far no response. As soon as they do, I will load it into P3D2...can't wait to finally fly the big bird again, as well as the 707

Don't expect it too happen quickly on Weekends, as Tanya gets time off then, although she often pops in briefly on weekends (to do things like making an announcement for a €9.99 sale).

Yeah all good, I know Tanya will sort me out, I am getting so desperate I might buy the 777 again!   ;D

:) Done!

Hi all!

Quick question first... those of you who run CS 777-200 under P3D v2 can make the POSINIT function to work?

Now my steps...

1. I've got a CLEAN new P3D installation (no FSX installed and no FSX traces whatsoever)
2. I've installed EMS (Estonia Migration Tool) and enabled Virtual FSX
3. Installed CS 777-200 1.2 and then the 1.3 update
4. Open \SimObjects\Airplanes\CS_B777-200ER_GE\panel\panel.cfg
5. Under [Window00] section I've changed this line:
gauge02=Captain_Sim.x777.update!Main, 0, 0,  3, 3
to
\\gauge02=Captain_Sim.x777.update!Main, 0, 0,  3, 3
6. Run Prepar3D v2 in Legacy Mode

Now.. everthing seems to load fine. But whenever I try to use the POSINIT function in the CDU (clicking on LSK 4R and then on LSK 5R) I get an INVALID ENTRY error. Any ideas? Thanks so much in advance.

It seems like latest P3D patch has broke CS 777 on EMT:

http://board.flightsim.ee/discussion/296/unsolved-captain-sim-crashes-p3d

I concur that Prepar3D v2.1 + HF (hotfix 1) + legacy mode using the Estonia Migration Tool makes the CS 777 work again, but I am not seeing any frame rate improvements in CS 777 V1.3 above Version 1.2. Has anyone else used CS 777 in Prepar3D v2.1 + HF (hotfix 1) and claims improvements in FPS, or is it only in FSX that you are likely to realise any benefit?

LecLightning56 wrote on Mar 10^th, 2014 at 6:31pm:

I concur that Prepar3D v2.1 + HF (hotfix 1) + legacy mode using the Estonia Migration Tool makes the CS 777 work again, but I am not seeing any frame rate improvements in CS 777 V1.3 above Version 1.2. Has anyone else used CS 777 in Prepar3D v2.1 + HF (hotfix 1) and claims improvements in FPS, or is it only in FSX that you are likely to realise any benefit?

I don't know what computer system you have, but I did try CS 777  once around the pattern.  Boy, you better have a strong computer for P3D and CS 777.  I got i7 920 @ 3.2 ghz and GF 560ti.  I would think that's bare minimum.  When I tried it, I realized I needed a new setup.  

I managed to get the 777 running in P3D v2.1 using the Estonia Migrator Tool and running P3D in Legacy Mode. The aircraft does power up but some things are not working. I am unable to start the engines other than using Ctrl + E. Manual starts just do not seem to work. I am also unable to select the majority of the lighting options in the aircraft such as the panel lights and most external lights. When running P3D in error logging mode, there are multiple gauge errors for almost all the lights. Only using the "L" key seems to turn everything on, but the switches in the cockpit simply do not work. Even if they move they are non-functional. It is not possible to control the lighting individually, except for the taxi and landing lights, using the "L" key is a all or nothing deal. Some lighting knobs will not move at all, even though the mouse cursor changes to the hand cursor when hovered over the knob. They did rotate in P3D v1.4.

I believe that this is one Captain Sim aircraft that is a bust for use in P3D v2.1.  :-/

Has anybody got the new P3D version running in P3D V1.4 ?  I haven't upgraded to P3D2 yet, and I'd love to find out that the 777 now works without needing to use Legacy mode - never could get that working on my system...

I don't mind buying the new version, but since it only mentions P3D2 I'm a little hesitant...  Plus, do the 300 and Freighter expansion packs for FSX work with the P3D version ?

BM

The P3D version works fine in P3D v2, I'm not sure it's compatible with P3D v1.x. :(

[edit]There is now a 777 Captain for P3D v2, but you'll have to pay for it (€29.99).[/edit]

I haven't tried in P3D V1.4 ... it does work VERY well in P3D V2.2.

Cheers, Rob.

Hi I'm hoping someone can help me

I've just installed CS777 1.4 for P3D v2.2 and the performance seems really low. I seem to get no more than 15-17fps.

Turning other display options like msaa etc seems to have no real effect. I've tried changing cpu affinity in task manager, which has resulted in the 15-17fps - before it was more like 12fps.

I have all the latest software drivers etc afaik

AMD 8320 8 core OC'd @ 4200
GTX770 2gb
16GB RAM
Win 7

Does this sound right?  :-[

The cost of moving to P3D v2xx is small for the Academic version.

The proportion of simmers using v1.4 compared to v2.2 is tiny.  I can't imagine that any business approach to sim add-ons will willingly include v1.4 any longer.

carbonfootprint wrote on Jun 30^th, 2014 at 10:58am:

Hi I'm hoping someone can help me I've just installed CS777 1.4 for P3D v2.2 and the performance seems really low. I seem to get no more than 15-17fps. Turning other display options like msaa etc seems to have no real effect. I've tried changing cpu affinity in task manager, which has resulted in the 15-17fps - before it was more like 12fps. I have all the latest software drivers etc afaik AMD 8320 8 core OC'd @ 4200 GTX770 2gb 16GB RAM Win 7 Does this sound right?  :-[

Your video card is lacking - hate to tell yah that but it is

rsvette12 wrote on Jul 1^st, 2014 at 10:43pm:

[quote author=carbonfootoprint link=1373640774/60#63 date=1404125896]Hi I'm hoping someone can help me I've just installed CS777 1.4 for P3D v2.2 and the performance seems really low. I seem to get no more than 15-17fps. Turning other display options like msaa etc seems to have no real effect. I've tried changing cpu affinity in task manager, which has resulted in the 15-17fps - before it was more like 12fps. I have all the latest software drivers etc afaik AMD 8320 8 core OC'd @ 4200 GTX770 2gb 16GB RAM Win 7 Does this sound right?  :-[/quote] Your video card is lacking - hate to tell yah that but it is

The 777 for P3D is heavy on the frame rates (just like the 777 for FSX is)! I get 17-20 at large airports, but the frame rates increases as I gain altitude and get further away from the airports (naturally). Although this is similar to what I get in FSX, I have my sliders higher in P3Dv2.2. I am willing to sacrifice some FPS for looks! Besides, 17-20 in DX11 looks/feels smother than it does in DX9.

Cheers for the input. I guess it's frustrating when you compare the performance to the airbus x fps. Hopefully more optimisation lies in the future  :)

I just finished installing P3D v2.2 in Windows 8.1. I seem to be getting slightly better frame rates with the 777 (first plane I have tried).

The VC looks neat too (I'm pretty sure it looks neater in P3D in Wiundow 7 too). It must be the way P3D handles the textures better (just guessing). :o

Note. I'm not totally sure the setting are the same in both installations of P3D yet.

Just checking.....

I purchased 777 1.4 for P3D
I do NOT have FSX installed
I am using P3D version 2.3

I'm one of the people who can't get the 777 to install (yoke hard over, no roll or pitch control, no visible gear)

Is it possible that the P3D version of 777 installs in P3D ONLY if FSX is ALSO installed?

I assume you've tried all of the common steps, e.g. deleting existing registry keys, installing as admin, manual offline activation, etc.?

If so, you may be relegated to doing like me and using the migration tool.

Yup, tried ALL the steps - except this migration tool thing. I guess I'll look into that , yuk...

Hmm. So in an effort to be a little more dilligent before purchasing something, I've been over in the 1011 section reading about any sort of issues that thing has and I came across a comment from a dude about a similar issue:


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Hello

I 've had the missing landing gear / panel issue. In my case, it was due to simconnect : need to install it again from :

\redist\Interface\FSX-SP2-XPACK\retail\lib\SimConnect.msi

from within Prepar3D root folder.

Tips found on Majestic software forum. (Which Q400 had the same issue.)

Just to share.
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This is a far more promising and sensible problem and solution and I would urge anyone having this issue to try this first, especially if you don't want to buy the migration tool (and to be honest, you shouldn't have to considering this is a P3D addon). I have better things to do than unintentionally uninstalling something just to see if a new install process works out this issue so I'll save my attempt at it until the next time I need to do a fresh P3D install for whatever reason. So, certainly, give this a try folks and see if this works.

So just an update guys I fixed the activation issue. The problem was that I did not have FSX installed on the machine. It seems that the CS 777 needs some registry entries generated by FSX in order to work in Prepar3d V2. You must have FSX installed in order to run the add on. That fixed my problem with landing gear not showing...etc...

Thank you for confirming that.

Hey garrettprs, I ran SimConnect.msi, got into P3d, picked the 777 and to my shock, I now have full control and real landing gear.

Thank you so much!

P.S. The installer for -300 expansion module prompted me for the location of the FSX folder. I thought that was strange because I thought I bought an expansion module for P3D. Anyway, if you copy the Prepar3d.exe file as fsx.exe, the installer is then happy to install it as a P3d airplane.  

As far as I know, the -300 and Freighter Expansion Models are for FSX only, not for FSX and/or P3D.
See the 777-300 & Freighter Expansion Models in P3Dv2 topic.

Markoz,
Now that I look again, yes it does look like the -300 module I purchased is NOT advertised as for P3D.

But in spite of that, it appears to fly just fine in P3D. The -300 autopilot also appears to work in P3D.

Some key combos (shft-5, shft-6, and shft-9) just show a black rectangle so as you suggest the -300 doesn't look to be 100% compatible.

KCMO wrote on Aug 29^th, 2014 at 2:16am:

Some key combos (shft-5, shft-6, and shft-9) just show a black rectangle so as you suggest the -300 doesn't look to be 100% compatible.

In the topic I mentioned in my previous post, is a link to the modified panel.cfg's that I did to make the 777-300 and 777 Freighter work great in P3D. That way, there should be no black rectangles.

To save you the trouble, here is the link for them: https://www.dropbox.com/s/cfg3vf6vmvxh89m/773%26777F_P3Dv2.zip ;)

Oh, you are good.

Works perfectly - thank you!

KCMO wrote on Aug 28^th, 2014 at 11:58pm:

Hey garrettprs, I ran SimConnect.msi, got into P3d, picked the 777 and to my shock, I now have full control and real landing gear.

Good to hear!

So when Boeing777_300er said that things were fixed upon reinstalling FSX, I bet what really happened is that it merely just reloaded SimConnect.

carbonfootprint wrote on Jun 30^th, 2014 at 10:58am:

Hi I'm hoping someone can help me I've just installed CS777 1.4 for P3D v2.2 and the performance seems really low. I seem to get no more than 15-17fps. Turning other display options like msaa etc seems to have no real effect. I've tried changing cpu affinity in task manager, which has resulted in the 15-17fps - before it was more like 12fps. I have all the latest software drivers etc afaik AMD 8320 8 core OC'd @ 4200 GTX770 2gb 16GB RAM Win 7 Does this sound right?  :-[

having exactly the same experience. Frame rates in the basement, auto pilot with a mind of it's own, not to mention a schizophrenic auto throttle, overall pretty disappointed.I own the FSX version as well and it ran adequately for me, not so it's PD3 V 2.3 cousin it seems. If someone can kindly point me in the direction of a hot fix or patch I would be grateful otherwise I'm afraid I'll be returning this captain sim product.It's bad enough knowing that I have to repurchase all the products I own for FSX in order to get them to work in P3D. Then when I do repurchase and find that it works worse than it's FSX cousin I go from being a previously happy Captain Sim customer to a unhappy one :(.

Regrettably, my experience has been similar.

First, the sheer irritation of having to use the smallest display size in order that the magnified speed on the tape is the same as the actual speed.  My eyes are old and dim!

On levelling out in cruise the A/T randomly goes off duty (while still showing a green bar) with the A/P still engaged - usually leading to an overspeed situation.  Re-establishment of VNAV cruise also is random in the sequence that A/P, A/T, VNAV and pilot set speed are recycled or used.

It's impact on framerates is, as others have described,  is really heavy.  It is the heaviest impact of any complex airliner that I have in my hangar.

Mark, I know that you are simply a kind soul who helps us in our times of need, but could you pass these genuine concerns to the CS devs.  I really hope the development of this aircraft has not been frozen or abandoned.

Questions:


777/200 upgrades are free? (I do not speak of the expansions, only 777/200 base) I hope so, I've been told you have to pay, is that true?

They have to fix the gauges programmers (do not know when .. but I guess they will, I hope .......) because this is a FRAMEKILLER 777, also happens to my quiet me

manelin wrote on Sep 26^th, 2014 at 2:26pm:

Questions: 777/200 upgrades are free? (I do not speak of the expansions, only 777/200 base) I hope so, I've been told you have to pay, is that true?

As a general rule, all Captain Sim updates are free, as long a the primary number remains the same (i.e. v1.0 to v1.9), but once that primary number changes (i.e. 1.x to 2.x) you will have to buy it.

This is why the the CS757 v5.0 and CS767 v2.0 will not be free upgrades. ;)

Merlin851526 wrote on Sep 4^th, 2014 at 8:15pm:

[quote author=carbonfootoprint link=1373640774/60#63 date=1404125896]Hi I'm hoping someone can help me I've just installed CS777 1.4 for P3D v2.2 and the performance seems really low. I seem to get no more than 15-17fps. Turning other display options like msaa etc seems to have no real effect. I've tried changing cpu affinity in task manager, which has resulted in the 15-17fps - before it was more like 12fps. I have all the latest software drivers etc afaik AMD 8320 8 core OC'd @ 4200 GTX770 2gb 16GB RAM Win 7 Does this sound right?  :-[/quote]having exactly the same experience. Frame rates in the basement, auto pilot with a mind of it's own, not to mention a schizophrenic auto throttle, overall pretty disappointed.I own the FSX version as well and it ran adequately for me, not so it's PD3 V 2.3 cousin it seems. If someone can kindly point me in the direction of a hot fix or patch I would be grateful otherwise I'm afraid I'll be returning this captain sim product.It's bad enough knowing that I have to repurchase all the products I own for FSX in order to get them to work in P3D. Then when I do repurchase and find that it works worse than it's FSX cousin I go from being a previously happy Captain Sim customer to a unhappy one :(.

you're not the only one who feels cheated >:( :-/ and then 30 euros (minimum) my 777/200 10 fps in maximum P3D 15 and the systems do not work, autothrottle, systems fail buf etcect, to not work well and do not give clear support to solve the problems, (no support) only help other users, so I paid and as a customer I can express myself freely (without insulting clear ) but I like to tell the truth and how I feel (then clear from another update to be paid) my 777 time is the worst purchase I have made, captain sim would have to have this policy: Until this finish the product will not be for sale, ie only cetrarse on a plane and this plane until this finish does not start with another plane  

Markoz wrote on Sep 27^th, 2014 at 1:39am:

manelin wrote on Sep 26th, 2014 at 2:26pm: Questions: 777/200 upgrades are free? (I do not speak of the expansions, only 777/200 base) I hope so, I've been told you have to pay, is that true? As a general rule, all Captain Sim updates are free, as long a the primary number remains the same (i.e. v1.0 to v1.9), but once that primary number changes (i.e. 1.x to 2.x) you will have to buy it. This is why the the CS757 v5.0 and CS767 v2.0 will not be free upgrades. ;)

that is, that once I paid for the product, change the number updates to pay!?!? Shocked Undecided (30 euros at the end of the plane costs 400 euros) irony and a little disappointed,in a few words that take 4.5 to say something and hopefully not (do not want to be waiting until age 50) will have to make gold because of me not going to help I paid my product and I want this finished and complete without having to pay, so of course, markoz you would like to buy a car that will charge 2 times one for buying and one for leaving the dealership? :( :( :( :( :( >:( >:( >:( :-/ :-/ :-/

manelin wrote on Sep 27^th, 2014 at 6:54pm:

that is, that once I paid for the product, change the number updates to pay!?!? Shocked Undecided (30 euros at the end of the plane costs 400 euros) irony and a little disappointed,in a few words that take 4.5 to say something and hopefully not (do not want to be waiting until age 50) will have to make gold because of me not going to help I paid my product and I want this finished and complete without having to pay, so of course, markoz you would like to buy a car that will charge 2 times one for buying and one for leaving the dealership? :( :( :( :( :( >:( >:( >:( :-/ :-/ :-/

Have a look in the 757 version 4.x (FSX ONLY) forum, and you will see that v4.0 was released years ago (v1.x and v2.x are for FS9/FS2004). The 757 Captain 5.0 wish list forum was started over 2 years ago with still no sign of when it might be released, so I don't think you need to worry about a 777 v2.0 any time soon (it could be years away). :o

Markoz wrote on Sep 28^th, 2014 at 7:53pm:

manelin wrote on Sep 27th, 2014 at 6:54pm: that is, that once I paid for the product, change the number updates to pay!?!? Shocked Undecided (30 euros at the end of the plane costs 400 euros) irony and a little disappointed,in a few words that take 4.5 to say something and hopefully not (do not want to be waiting until age 50) will have to make gold because of me not going to help I paid my product and I want this finished and complete without having to pay, so of course, markoz you would like to buy a car that will charge 2 times one for buying and one for leaving the dealership? :( :( :( :( :( >:( >:( >:( :-/ :-/ :-/ Have a look in the 757 version 4.x (FSX ONLY) forum, and you will see that v4.0 was released years ago (v1.x and v2.x are for FS9/FS2004). The 757 Captain 5.0 wish list forum was started over 2 years ago with still no sign of when it might be released, so I don't think you need to worry about a 777 v2.0 any time soon (it could be years away). :o

Ya, mmm but the question is to 2.0 (for example) or get the product without bugs directly (I only time I care about the product that I paid for) my 777, simple, or get the completely finished product, and if have small bugs get a couple of small updates to fix bugs that exist :-? :-? :-? :-? :-?

I have the FSX version CS777 v1.4 installed in P3Dv2 using EMT.  I do not see the landing gear and instrument displays are black, and yoke is locked in one position.  This is when I run P3Dv2 in normal mode.

Then I run it in Legacy Mode, which I do not really want to do, and I find that the 777 loads fine and works fine.  I do have FSX installed, if that matters.

I realize there is a P3D version with a P3D installer, and it comes at no discount that I can gather.  Not terribly interested in that.

Is there anybody here that has managed to get the FSX version of this thing running normally in P3D v2 (eg, not in Legacy Mode)?

Sounds quite indicative of not having Simconnect not installed or "talking to" the aircraft.

Try this... in the P3D root folder, locate:

\redist\Interface\FSX-SP2-XPACK\retail\lib\SimConnect.msi

Execute the Simconnect.msi. Not much will happen in the way of prompts or anything but it will no doubt install. Open up P3D and let us know if the problem is solved.

By the way, this also happens with the P3D version of the 777 so it really doesn't have much to do with using the FSX version. Odd.

I saw your earlier post, sir and I thank you for pointing this out.  I tried it yesterday, and to no avail.  I will try it again, just in case.

So, let me ask - which version of CS777 are you running in P3Dv2?  Are you using the FSX version or the new P3D version?  Are you limited to legacy mode?

Hmm, that's odd.

I'm using the correct P3Dv2 version but, as stated, still have simconnect issues, the symptoms of which are exactly as you describe. Said issues are immediately fixed upon executing the simconnect package.

Some folks have claimed to successfully use the -300 and freighter versions in P3D, even though CS has only released them for FSX. I would have figured that this would mean the base model would work as well. I can't attest to this since I only have the base model.

Have you tried following the proper activation procedures (running the installer as administrator, using manual offline activation, etc.)? Have you deleted the Captain Sim registry keys?

Also, I assume that you had FSX installed at some point? I wonder if something is still pointing the aircraft files to your FSX installation, whether you've deleted it or not...

Yes, I still have FSX installed.  I am not too keen on deleting it all while I am still in the process of making the transition over to P3Dv2.  So it is a gradual migration, if you will.  Some of it is a little more gradual than the rest.

Well I don't really want to go spend another 30 Euro just to have the exact same issue here.

I have done all the proper removal, deletions, cleaning registry and reinstalling as administrator, ber the KB685 or whatever # that is.

So evidently the install is looking for something in amongst my FSX files and not finding it in regular P3D mode.  I had the same thought.  Then when I run Legacy Mode (which is not stable and creates all kind of error messages caused by other add-ons), it seems to locate what it is looking for and voila, it works!

I just need to localize what that is.

Then my hunch is probably correct: I think lots of folks try to simultaneously install aircraft into both FSX and P3D and yet it will only work in one or the other... although typically only FSX. That it works in P3D legacy mode seems to essentially confirm that.

I can't blame you for wanting to keep your FSX installation (I've moved on, so I can't entirely relate) but we need someone to chime in that's successfully installed a CS aircraft--or any 3rd-party aircraft--into both simulators at the same time in order to see if there's a method that works.

Not to upset CS (although I'm becoming doubtful that they meander into their own forum with any regularity these days) but I'm pretty sure you don't need to purchase another 777. Once you have a setup with only one simulator, I'll betcha it works.

If you have space left on your hard drive(e.g. 40+ gb), you could try partitioning off a large block and installing windows, P3D, and the aircraft to ensure that it works. If it does, delete the partition and merge it back into the rest of the drive. But that's a lot of hassle...

I have both P3Dv2.3 and FSX installed and I have the CS 777-200 (FSX and P3Dv2 versions) and I have no problems at all with the CS 777-200, -300 or Freighter, in P3Dv2. They work just fine.

It might depend on where you have FSX and P3Dv2 installed. Mine are:

FSX is installed in J:\Flight Simulator X (1st partition of the 3rd HDD (*1TB))
P3Dv2 is installed in H:\Prepar3D v2 (3rd partition of the 2nd HDD (2TB))

So they are (1) NOT in the C:\Program Files or C:\Program Files (x86), (2) they are not even installed on the C: drive, and (3) they are not installed on the same partitions (in fact they are both on different partitions, on different HDD's).

At one time, I had both FSX and P3Dv2 on the same drive and on the same partition (J:), and the Captain Sim 777 for P3Dv2 worked fine for me then too. :)

* My 3TB HDD is IN my computer, but I haven't initialized it yet because I am still wondering how many partitions I will divide it into, and I have to decide what will go on which partition. So at this time, I am still using 2x2TB HDDs and 1x1TB HDD, with 1x3TB HDD not in use. Call me crazy, but eventually I will figure it out. I just didn't think I would still be undecided on what to do by now. :o


[edit]And one more thing. Both FSx and P3Dv2 are always run using 'Run as administrator'![/edit]

garrettprs wrote on Oct 1^st, 2014 at 2:52am:

Then my hunch is probably correct: I think lots of folks try to simultaneously install aircraft into both FSX and P3D and yet it will only work in one or the other... although typically only FSX. That it works in P3D legacy mode seems to essentially confirm that.

Well, I don't use FSX anymore (in fact it doesn't even work, for whatever reason), and I do not have CS777 installed in FSX.  But FSX remains, just as a placeholder, until I get all the way moved over.  I generally remove stuff as I get it working in P3D.


Quote:

I can't blame you for wanting to keep your FSX installation (I've moved on, so I can't entirely relate) but we need someone to chime in that's successfully installed a CS aircraft--or any 3rd-party aircraft--into both simulators at the same time in order to see if there's a method that works.

Sorry this is not the case, as I explained above.

Are you suggesting that it work if removed FSX entirely?  

Remember the darn thing works fine in P3D if I enable Legacy Mode.  I'm only looking for a way to get this working in Normal Mode in P3D.


Quote:

Not to upset CS (although I'm becoming doubtful that they meander into their own forum with any regularity these days) but I'm pretty sure you don't need to purchase another 777. Once you have a setup with only one simulator, I'll betcha it works.

Again you are saying it will work when FSX is totally uninstalled?  Because I DO NOT have CS777 installed in two places.


Quote:

If you have space left on your hard drive(e.g. 40+ gb), you could try partitioning off a large block and installing windows, P3D, and the aircraft to ensure that it works. If it does, delete the partition and merge it back into the rest of the drive. But that's a lot of hassle...

Agreed.  Not going there.

Markoz wrote on Oct 1^st, 2014 at 4:16am:

I have both P3Dv2.3 and FSX installed and I have the CS 777-200 (FSX and P3Dv2 versions) and I have no problems at all with the CS 777-200, -300 or Freighter, in P3Dv2. They work just fine.

OK, that dispels that theory.



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It might depend on where you have FSX and P3Dv2 installed. Mine are: FSX is installed in J:\Flight Simulator X (1st partition of the 3rd HDD (*1TB)) P3Dv2 is installed in H:\Prepar3D v2 (3rd partition of the 2nd HDD (2TB)) So they are (1) NOT in the C:\Program Files or C:\Program Files (x86), (2) they are not even installed on the C: drive, and (3) they are not installed on the same partitions (in fact they are both on different partitions, on different HDD's).

I have FSX and P3D both installed in D:\PROGRAM FILES

You think this might be my issue?


Quote:

At one time, I had both FSX and P3Dv2 on the same drive and on the same partition (J:), and the Captain Sim 777 for P3Dv2 worked fine for me then too. :)

OK maybe we can dispel that theory as well.  Hmmm...


Quote:

[edit]And one more thing. Both FSx and P3Dv2 are always run using 'Run as administrator'![/edit]

I suppose.  I'll check this but I can tell you this has not had an effect on anything else so far.  Probably I already AM running P3D as admin, otherwise there would be other problems with so many other addons installed.

Anyway guys all this is useful discourse for me, as well as for others potentially, that run into the same issues.  Thanks for all the effort and ideas, I certainly appreciate it.

I guess my choices are to live with this and try to run CS777 in Legacy Mode (which I am loath to do) or wait for a holiday sale and hope I can pick up the P3D version of this for less.  Or just remove it altogether and try to forget.

Don't be fooled into thinking that because your user account is an administrative account, that you are running FSX and/or P3D as an administrator. With Vista, Win7 & Win8/8.1, you are only really running them as an administrative if

1) you right click on the FSX/P3D shortcut and select the Run as administrator option:

http://i669.photobucket.com/albums/vv58/Markoz958/runfsxasadministrator_zpsb234943f.jpg~original

2) right click on the FSX/P3D .exe files, select Properties, select the Compatibility tab, then checkmark the (place a tick in) box beside Run this program as an administrator (under Privilege Level):

http://i669.photobucket.com/albums/vv58/Markoz958/runfsxasadministrator.jpg~original

It is highly recommended NOT to install FSX (and I assume the same applies to P3D) in the C:\Program Files or C:\Program Files (x86) because Windows has too many restrictions on these folders (and everything within them). You are better off installing them in the C: root, i.e. C:\Microsoft Flight Simulator X and C:\Prepar3D v2.

My FSX and P3D are install on the F: drive in Windows 8.1 (because Win8.1 is installed on my F: drive): F:\Flight Simulator X and F:\Prepar3D v2, and they both work fine.

FSX is now removed completely.  And I have Prepar3d.exe set to run as administrator, just like your screen shots, Mark.

This was after I reinstalled CS772 1.4 yesterday - also ran the simconnect.msi again.

No change.

EDIT:  Still works just fine in Legacy Mode.  So it is getting registered.

I noticed that I do not have any simconnect entries anywhere.  Probably that is my problem.  

However, simply running that simconnect.msi does do anything as far as I can tell...

Do you see an entry in your programs/features list in the Windows control panel?

garrettprs wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2014 at 9:38pm:

Do you see an entry in your programs/features list in the Windows control panel?

Sure do.

I also have no less than 4 SIMCONNECT entries in my registry and 4 installations in my windows folder.

hello
The joystick, 2D cocpit dont work
help me s'il vous plait !!

There is no main 2D panel in the product, please check the manual.

Hi all .. yesterday I bought this plane .. and I'm disappointed  :( .. because "FPS friendly" hmm no for me ..

in short - I have i5 4.8Ghz, GTX780@Ti, 12GB ram etc ... P3D 2.4 high settings (no max)

Airbus (another company) - 35-50fps
B350i (milviz) - 35-50fps
B737-200 (milviz) 35-50fps
etc ..
CS777 - from VC - 16-25MAX for me unplayable  :-/ I didn't expect that it would be so bad. from outside is ok (40-60)fps

I did try set default(low) P3D .. and I got 25-30  :-/

I'm sad

problem is on my side or FPS are normal ?

regards

So .. thx for support  ::) .. I'll keep that in mind for the future.

I haven't looked to see what my frame rates for the 777 in P3D are, but it looks smooth enough for me not to worry about the fps, nor check to see exactly what they are (see my computer specs in my signature below).

Please delete also my previous posts , Sorry about harassment.

There is a 777 Captain for P3Dv2 available now. I don't use P3Dv1.4 any more, but it wouldn't surprise me if the 777 worked in that.

Endyamon wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 6:06pm:

in short - I have i5 4.8Ghz, GTX780@Ti, 12GB ram etc ... P3D 2.4 high settings (no max)regards

I solved this problem - uninstal

After 6 consecutive stall and crash on takeoff I tried this last night and it worked! DO NOT USE TO/GA SWITCH flaps 5 throttle advance manually rotate GENTLY and monitor airspeed keep wings level. When airspeed increases to more than 200 kts by adjusting pitch (forget about flight director) then engage autopilot lnav vnav and autothrottle

Shaktman wrote on Feb 5^th, 2017 at 6:49pm:

After 6 consecutive stall and crash on takeoff I tried this last night and it worked! DO NOT USE TO/GA SWITCH flaps 5 throttle advance manually rotate GENTLY and monitor airspeed keep wings level. When airspeed increases to more than 200 kts by adjusting pitch (forget about flight director) then engage autopilot lnav vnav and autothrottle

If you set the trim correctly, it shouldn't stall! But if you are using derated thrust, you need to be very careful not to stall it. To avoid that, it might be worth setting the A/T to a higher speed (I set it to about 200/205 knots). I always use the TOGA switch to take off, and I can't remember the last time the 777 stalled just after takeoff.