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Message started by ARNZX on Mar 28th, 2013 at 5:21am

Title: 777 Tutorial
Post by ARNZX on Mar 28th, 2013 at 5:21am
Greetings Captains,

A tutorial has been published on my website for those who would like some guidance/help going from a cold and dark cockpit through to programming the FMC, setting up the AP and preparing for push, engine start and working through the electronic checklists.

Its designed for those who take a more relaxed approach to flying as it doesn't follow 'correct' procedures, but it certainly works for me and I am yet to experience any problems configuring and flying this wonderful aircraft.

Because I cant post links yet (not enough posts) if you Google ARNZX the first site listed in search results will be my website.

dub dub dub dot flightsim dot com.

Hope its of some help, happy flying Captains.
777TUT1.jpg (Attachment deleted)

Title: Re: 777 Tutorial
Post by ARNZX on Mar 31st, 2013 at 7:09am
No feedback Captains? Its crap, ok, good, other lol

Your thoughts are welcome as it will help us improve part 2 and we can update part 1.

Title: Re: 777 Tutorial
Post by luca toscani on Mar 31st, 2013 at 9:42am
the first part is done very well, explains in detail what to do. when it comes to the second part so I can do a test flight?

Title: Re: 777 Tutorial
Post by Markoz on Apr 1st, 2013 at 12:53am
Hi ARNZX.

Sorry, but I've had a busy week with family (too many birthdays at the end of March and the beginning of April) and so I have not taken time to check it out yet. I shall do so, as soon as the time allows. ;)

Title: Re: 777 Tutorial
Post by Daryl Smith on Apr 5th, 2013 at 5:11am
This is excellent, Jon! The clearest and most thorough explanation of cold-n-dark start-up procedure I've seen. I also picked up a few helpful FMC tips along the way, and corrected a couple of "bad habits." :-)

I highly recommend this tutorial, and look forward to Part 2.

If I had one wish, it would be for a smaller pdf. Reducing the output resolution to 150 dpi might cause a big size reduction, with minimal reduction in viewability.

Title: Re: 777 Tutorial
Post by marius scheepers on Apr 5th, 2013 at 9:26am
Well Done Excellent Tutorial! :)

Title: Re: 777 Tutorial
Post by ARNZX on Apr 6th, 2013 at 7:53pm
Thanks guys.

@Daryl, I'm saving into PDF directly from PowerPoint so my options are limited, what I can do is s save 2 versions, the second will be 1/3 the file size but not as clear.

Title: Re: 777 Tutorial
Post by guy1300 on Apr 8th, 2013 at 11:53am
Great tutorial! wait to the next part!.

Title: Re: 777 Tutorial
Post by RichardL on Jun 1st, 2013 at 6:05am
Great job on this tutorial...I hope EFB will be included in your next tutorial...I'm so confused by this brief explanation in CS manual ;)

Title: Re: 777 Tutorial
Post by Lee Park on Jun 4th, 2013 at 6:32am
Excellent piece of work, and I love the "All Blacks" livery even though I'm a Springbok supporter. Great job ARNZ. Would also like more info on this EFB thing as I'm clueless.  :)

Title: Re: 777 Tutorial
Post by Drego22 on Jun 28th, 2013 at 10:45pm
Where is the tutorial, I went to the web site, and didn't find the tutorial for the 777 or any other tutorial of any kind, how do I get this tutorial? :-?

Title: Re: 777 Tutorial
Post by Markoz on Jun 28th, 2013 at 11:24pm
Someone else ask a while ago, so I uploaded a copy to RapidShare: https://rapidshare.com/files/2155790904/777_Tutorial_Pt1.zip

It's ARNZ's tutorial and not mine. ;)

Title: Re: 777 Tutorial
Post by sixty4 on Jul 11th, 2013 at 2:29pm
Jon, thanks for the tutorial. Great help!!

Remy

Title: Re: 777 Tutorial
Post by theguz on Sep 7th, 2013 at 11:33pm
I'm having trouble starting the engines on the 777-200, what am I doing wrong?  I have the Cap Sim 757 and 767 and I can start those.  I was following the instructions and N2 would not increase.  I have bleed air going to the engines and fuel pumps were on.  Is there a secret?

Title: Re: 777 Tutorial
Post by Markoz on Sep 8th, 2013 at 1:55am

theguz wrote on Sep 7th, 2013 at 11:33pm:
I'm having trouble starting the engines on the 777-200, what am I doing wrong?  I have the Cap Sim 757 and 767 and I can start those.  I was following the instructions and N2 would not increase.  I have bleed air going to the engines and fuel pumps were on.  Is there a secret?

You need to press CTRL+SHIFT+F4 (Mixture (full rich)) before they will start (or make sure the default flight has the mixture at 100%).

Title: Re: 777 Tutorial
Post by Lost in Isaan on Sep 8th, 2013 at 9:53am
Err - Wow, something I've never had to do! Fully powered on APU and in Push Back, Fuel Isolators ON, Pressure Pumps ON, 'Auto Start' selected and just Select the Right engine to "Start" -- wait until stable and do some house keeping then Select Left engine to "Start" and complete procedure. - Takes about 2 minutes.  :) NEVER HAD TO WORRY ABOUT MIXTURE????

Title: Re: 777 Tutorial
Post by Markoz on Sep 8th, 2013 at 1:28pm

Lost in Isaan wrote on Sep 8th, 2013 at 9:53am:
Err - Wow, something I've never had to do! Fully powered on APU and in Push Back, Fuel Isolators ON, Pressure Pumps ON, 'Auto Start' selected and just Select the Right engine to "Start" -- wait until stable and do some house keeping then Select Left engine to "Start" and complete procedure. - Takes about 2 minutes.  :) NEVER HAD TO WORRY ABOUT MIXTURE????

Lucky you. :) I would love to know what you default flight for FSX is.;)

The only way that I can start them without using CTRL+SHIFT+F4, is to make sure that the Mixture Lever is set to Full Rich (100%) in my default flight.

Title: Re: 777 Tutorial
Post by Lost in Isaan on Sep 8th, 2013 at 11:03pm
I don't use any fancy flight station just a Logitech joy stick and I do not have any specific 'default flight' other than the one I'm testing and saved at the time, which can vary daily or even hourly. Mostly bouncing between CS and A2A Accusim models, as such my 'realism/automixture' is permanently set DISABLED.

I rarely load a flight from the FSX boot screen rather than 'Fly Now' the default flight then load the flight, no matter - what - where - model - or saved state from the drop down menu.

Works for me!  ;) That includes a CS B77x Cold and Dark flight from a A2A B377 COTS Cold and dark or mid flight or whatever.

Title: Re: 777 Tutorial
Post by Markoz on Sep 9th, 2013 at 2:59am
I don't think the need to use CTRL+SHIFT+F4 has anything to do with automixture setting in the realism settings. Mine has been disabled since long before the CS 777 came onto the scene. ;)

Title: Re: 777 Tutorial
Post by Lost in Isaan on Sep 9th, 2013 at 6:47am
Been doing some tests and Engines will not start after pressing 'CTRL + SHIFT + F1' so then pressing 'CTRL + SHIFT + F4' away they go.

Looked at these parameters in all my saved B77x *.FLT Files. They are the same for all saved "cold" situations but some tags vary to other situations (understandable) including CS's default flight - 777-200 Cleared for takeoff (KSEA).FLT where you will note the mixture is near unity:

[Engine Parameters.1.0]
ThrottleLeverPct=0
PropellerLeverPct=0.99371337890625
MixtureLeverPct=0.99615478515625  //THIS ONE
Pct Engine RPM=1.2869414382895356e-005
MaxReachedEngineRPM=21507.107467776317
LeftMagneto=True
RightMagneto=True
GeneratorSwitch=False
CowlFlapPct=0
FuelPumpSwitch=False
CarbHeat/DeiceSwitch=False
Afterburner=False

[Engine Parameters.2.0]
ThrottleLeverPct=0
PropellerLeverPct=0.99371337890625
MixtureLeverPct=0.99615478515625
Pct Engine RPM=1.2869414382895356e-005
MaxReachedEngineRPM=21507.107467776317
LeftMagneto=False
RightMagneto=False
GeneratorSwitch=False
CowlFlapPct=0
FuelPumpSwitch=False
CarbHeat/DeiceSwitch=False
Afterburner=False

After I change the MixtureLeverPct=0.996 to zero then I have to do the 'CTRL + SHIFT + F4' thingy. Some of you guys have based your start up procedures on the default C172 (which I have never done) therefore your mixtures will not be maximum. Try basing your cold default situations on the CSB77x with these parameters.

Title: Re: 777 Tutorial
Post by Markoz on Sep 9th, 2013 at 3:19pm
That is the correct setting for the 777-200 Cleared for takeoff (KSEA) saved flight file because the engines are already started. The 777 does not come with a cold and dark flight, so you have to create your own. And here are the settings after turning the fuel control switches off:

[Engine Parameters.1.0]
ThrottleLeverPct=0.00579833984375
PropellerLeverPct=0.9996337890625
MixtureLeverPct=0.9996337890625
Pct Engine RPM=0.36098571739045981
MaxReachedEngineRPM=20389.098947171507
LeftMagneto=True
RightMagneto=True
GeneratorSwitch=True
CowlFlapPct=0
FuelPumpSwitch=False
CarbHeat/DeiceSwitch=False
Afterburner=0

[Engine Parameters.2.0]
ThrottleLeverPct=0.00579833984375
PropellerLeverPct=0.9996337890625
MixtureLeverPct=0.9996337890625
Pct Engine RPM=0.41046477772108736
MaxReachedEngineRPM=20389.098947171507
LeftMagneto=False
RightMagneto=False
GeneratorSwitch=True
CowlFlapPct=0
FuelPumpSwitch=False
CarbHeat/DeiceSwitch=False
Afterburner=0

Now. Let's take a look at the Captain Sim 767 file, 767-300 Cleared for takeoff (KSEA), settings. The MixtureLeverPct settings are pretty much the same as for the:

[Engine Parameters.1.0]
ThrottleLeverPct=0.005828857421875
PropellerLeverPct=0.99969482421875
MixtureLeverPct=0.99969482421875
Pct Engine RPM=0.65387755443201345
MaxReachedEngineRPM=7546.9248302787046
LeftMagneto=True
RightMagneto=True
GeneratorSwitch=True
CowlFlapPct=0
FuelPumpSwitch=False
CarbHeat/DeiceSwitch=False
Afterburner=0

[Engine Parameters.2.0]
ThrottleLeverPct=0.005828857421875
PropellerLeverPct=0.99969482421875
MixtureLeverPct=0.99969482421875
Pct Engine RPM=0.65387755443201345
MaxReachedEngineRPM=7546.9248302787046
LeftMagneto=False
RightMagneto=False
GeneratorSwitch=True
CowlFlapPct=0
FuelPumpSwitch=False
CarbHeat/DeiceSwitch=False
Afterburner=0

And now the 767-300 Cold-n-dark (KSEA) file engine settings:

[Engine Parameters.1.0]
ThrottleLeverPct=0.00567626953125
PropellerLeverPct=0.999267578125
MixtureLeverPct=0
Pct Engine RPM=0
MaxReachedEngineRPM=0
LeftMagneto=True
RightMagneto=True
GeneratorSwitch=False
CowlFlapPct=0
FuelPumpSwitch=False
CarbHeat/DeiceSwitch=False
Afterburner=False

[Engine Parameters.2.0]
ThrottleLeverPct=0.00567626953125
PropellerLeverPct=0.999267578125
MixtureLeverPct=0
Pct Engine RPM=0
MaxReachedEngineRPM=0
LeftMagneto=False
RightMagneto=False
GeneratorSwitch=False
CowlFlapPct=0
FuelPumpSwitch=False
CarbHeat/DeiceSwitch=False
Afterburner=False

From that cold and dark setting for the 767-300 (the CS 707,727, 737 and 757 all have the MictureLeverPct=0 in their Cold-n-dark (KSEA).FLT FILE), I can start the engines by simply turning the Fuel Control Switches to the RUN position.

When I saved the 777 flight (where I only turned the Fuel Control Switches to OFF (fuel cutoff), then looked at the MixtureLeverPct= setting, I also went and changed them to MixtureLeverPct=0. When I restarted FSX, using that file for that test, to bypass the start screen, I could not stat the 777 unless I pressed CTRL+SIFT+F4!

So why is it that when I set the MixtureLeverPct setting set to MixtureLeverPct=0 for the 777, that the engines will not start unless I press CTRL+SHIFT+F4? It is this difference, that make the 777 not start from the default C172 in a cold and dark setting. ALL my other addon jet airliners start by turning the Fuel Control Switches to RUN, only the Captain Sim 777 doesn't start.

Here is why I think it is happening. I believe that the animation tag for the Fuel Control Switches is different to those used in the other CS aircraft, which stops the 777 from starting the engines when the setting in the saved FLT file is MixtureLeverPct=0. :(

Title: Re: 777 Tutorial
Post by Lost in Isaan on Sep 9th, 2013 at 10:27pm
Without confusing the issue I have just shut down the 777-200 Cleared for takeoff (KSEA) default completely cold including fuel isolators OFF. Saved the flight then taken a look at the *.flt file - the mixtures are as above in my post:

MixtureLeverPct=0.99615478515625

At no time has my (B777) system saved the mixture as:

MixtureLeverPct=0.0

So Mark your last statement could well be correct BUT your saying that when you save cold and dark with isolators OFF your mixtures are saved as zero?  :-/

Title: Re: 777 Tutorial
Post by Markoz on Sep 10th, 2013 at 4:31am

Quote:
Without confusing the issue I have just shut down the 777-200 Cleared for takeoff (KSEA) default completely cold including fuel isolators OFF. Saved the flight then taken a look at the *.flt file - the mixtures are as above in my post:

MixtureLeverPct=0.99615478515625

At no time has my (B777) system saved the mixture as:

MixtureLeverPct=0.0

With the 777, the MixtureLeverPct=0.99615478515625 never changes, even when the 777's Fuel Control Switches are OFF (and save the flight). In other aircraft (including most add-on jet airliners), when you turn those switches to the OFF/FUEL CUTOFF position and save the flight, the MixtureLeverPct entry is MixtureLeverPct=0, but even if the addons don't do that, they are still capable of turning the mixture ON. Those aircraft CAN be started in FSX even with my default flight being the C172 cold and dark with the MixtureLeverPct=0 setting. The Captain Sim 777 is the only addon aircraft, that I can recall at this time, that I must use CTRL+SHIFT+F4 so the engines can be started. One other jet (which is NOT an addon aircraft) that doesn't start unless I use CTRL+SHIFT+F4, is the default Acceleration F/A-18. Guess who made it? That's right, Captain Sim did! :o

The point is that IF the MixtureLeverPct setting =0, then the 777 won't start. The Captain Sim 757, 727, 767, 707, B-52 and 737 all start even if the MixtureLeverPct setting IS =0, but not the Captain Sim 777.

Just out of curiosity, do a test: Edit one of your CS777 cold and dark saved flight (FLT) files. Change the MixterLeverPct to MixtureLeverPct=0. Now try starting the 777's engines and let me know what happened. ;)

Title: Re: 777 Tutorial
Post by Lost in Isaan on Sep 10th, 2013 at 11:42pm
I did that in my last sentence in post #19.  :-[

Title: Re: 777 Tutorial
Post by Markoz on Sep 11th, 2013 at 1:58am
[quote author=Lost_in_Isaan link=1364448067/15#23 date=1378856521]I did that in my last sentence in post #19.  :-[/quote]
Oops. That one must have gotten by me. Sorry.

Title: Re: 777 Tutorial
Post by flo1981 on Dec 16th, 2013 at 11:06am
Hello,

I just purchased the 777 and will follow your tuto part 1 to begin!

Do you have an idea when Part. 2 will be available?

Thanks!

Title: Re: 777 Tutorial
Post by Drego22 on Apr 13th, 2014 at 7:11pm
Is there another tutorial for the 777, this tutorial cant be accessed! :-/

Title: Re: 777 Tutorial
Post by Markoz on Apr 14th, 2014 at 12:31am

Drego22 wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 7:11pm:
Is there another tutorial for the 777, this tutorial cant be accessed! :-/

I placed it my DropBox. Download it from there: https://www.dropbox.com/s/4cgb9060lrx622m/777_Tutorial_Pt1.zip ;)

Title: Re: 777 Tutorial
Post by Morten on Apr 16th, 2014 at 12:56am
This is the most instructive, educational and clever tutorial I've ever seen - 'correct procedure', or not!
Thanks indeed Arnzx!  :)

Title: Re: 777 Tutorial
Post by rsvette12 on Jun 21st, 2014 at 12:51am
Arnzx - great job and thank you for the hard work   :)

Mark thanks for the download link   :)

Title: Re: 777 Tutorial
Post by Zhirkov on Oct 13th, 2014 at 9:12pm
Hi!

Sucessful programming. But I need 2nd tutorial, Departure and Arrival.

Thanks in advance Mr. ARNZX!  :D

Title: Re: 777 Tutorial
Post by Berike on Nov 7th, 2014 at 1:17am
Hi it may sound silly, but how do I change fuel and payload for the 777?

The ACE 777 only changes Payload, not the fuel load.

And I'm not sure if I have to do it before I load the aircraft or after

Title: Re: 777 Tutorial
Post by Jim Kaye on Nov 7th, 2014 at 5:24pm
After selecting the 777 aircraft, in fsx select aircraft, fuel and payload.

Jim Kaye

Title: Re: 777 Tutorial
Post by glaznar on Nov 12th, 2014 at 11:15am
The best tutorial that I have seen on my life ¡¡¡¡¡¡
I'm expecting your 2nd tutorial :) :) :)

Could you say for when it will be ready?

Thank you very much Mr. ARNZX

Title: Re: 777 Tutorial
Post by Jim Kaye on Nov 13th, 2014 at 4:56pm
ARNZX, your first tutorial gets an A+!  A few small errors I found, but was able to fly to New Zealand after setting up the FMC as described.  Still learning how to use the ILS for landing the 777.  Hope the second tutorial comes out soon.   :)

Jim Kaye

Title: Re: 777 Tutorial
Post by rfresh777 on Dec 1st, 2014 at 7:26pm
No second tutorial yet?

Title: Re: 777 Tutorial
Post by rfresh777 on Dec 3rd, 2014 at 4:03am
Where do we download the tutorial?

Update: I found it.

Title: Re: 777 Tutorial
Post by kgwyn on Jun 28th, 2018 at 2:51pm
Quick Question.  How do you change SID or any paoge for that matter on the EFB.  When I pul it up. Moscow information comes up.  I need to find or change it to other airports.  Thanks 

Title: Re: 777 Tutorial
Post by Markoz on Jun 29th, 2018 at 12:44am
See the USERS' CUSTOMIZATION section, found in the ‘777 Captain’ MANUAL Part II – Aircraft and Systems (csx777_manual2.pdf) on page 84.

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