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Message started by Kalo on Feb 1st, 2013 at 7:57pm

Title: Captain Sim 737 Engine Start
Post by Kalo on Feb 1st, 2013 at 7:57pm
Captain Sim 737 Start Up and Flight Tutorial

Greetings all, I decided to make a flight tutorial that would be easy for beginners to understand! I would love some input form the community! I am not very experienced in flying airliners, so any input/suggestions/advice for this tutorial would be greatly appreciated.

I am combing through the 737-200 flight manual to find all necessary tasks to put into this tutorial. Please respond if I have missed a step or have done something out of order. I will number the steps, so if you find an error or have a suggestion please note the step number that I should revise or add another step.

I will continually edit/update this tutorial, so after people make suggestions, I will keep it up to date. I will put the final version into a nice layout. I will also add pictures to the final version.

Cold and Dark Startup
To get the 737-200 in a cold and dark setting, load the default Cessna 172. Pull the mixture control fully out, turn the magneto switch to the off position, switch off the Avionics Master switch, Turn off the Alternator Switch, then turn off the Battery Switch. Now load the Captain Sim 737-200 and it will be in the cold and dark state.

Preflight
1. Battery Switch- ON
2. Avionics Master Switch -ON (behind co-pilot seat)
3. Yaw Damper Switch ON
4. Nav Transfer Switches- NORMAL
5. Fuel Heat Switches-OFF
6. Crossfeed Selector-CLOSED (Vertial)
7. Fuel Pump Switches-OFF
8. Galley Power Switch-ON
9. APU Switch-START (then wait for APU GENERATOR OFF BUS light to illuminate)
10. APU Generator Switches-ON
10.2. Fuel Pump Switches-ON **(added, will number final version)
11. Equipment Cooling Switch-NORMAL
12. Windshield Wiper Selector-OFF
13. Window Heat Switches-ON
14. Pitot Static Switches-OFF
15. Wing Anti-Ice-OFF
16. Engine Anti-Ice-OFF
17. GRD Interconnect Switch-CLOSE
18. Engine Hydraulic Pump Switches-ON
19. Electric Hydraulic Pump Switches-OFF
20. Altitude AND Pressurization Panel-SET
21. Air Conditioning Pack Switches-one ON other OFF
     Gasper Fan-AS NEEDED (?)
22. Isolation Valve Switch-AUTO
23. Engine Bleed Air Switches-ON
24. APU Bleed Air Switch-ON
25. Landing Light Switches-Retract and OFF
     Runway Turnoff Light Switches-OFF
     Taxi Light Switch-OFF
     Position Light Switch-As needed
     Anti-Collision Light Switch-ON
     Wing Illumination Switch- As needed
     Wheel Well Light Switch-As needed
26. Engine Start Switches-OFF
27. Flight Director Panel
     Mode Selector-OFF
     Altitude Hold Switch-OFF
     Pitch Command Control-FULL CLOCKWISE
28. AutoBrake Selector-OFF
29. EPR reference selectors-PUSH (is this necessary?)
30. Radios-SET for departure
31. Altimeter-SET
32. Stabilizer Trim Switches-NORMAL
33. Trim-SET

Engine Start
34. ----omitted---
35. Air Conditioning Pack Switches-OFF
36. Left Engine Start Switch-GRD
     Wait until N2 reaches 20%
     Move Mixture Control Lever to-IDLE (under throttle)
     Repeat for Engine 2
37. Fuel Heat Switches-AS NEEDED
38. Generator 1 and 2 Switches-ON
39. PITOT Heat Switches- ON
40. Wing Anti-Ice Switch-AS NEEDED
41. Engine Anti-Ice Switch-AS NEEDED
42. PACK switches-ON
43. Isolation Valve Switch-AUTO
44. APU Bleed Air Switch-OFF
45. Flight/Ground Switch-FLT
46. APU Switch-OFF
47. Engine Start Switches-LOW IGN
48. System B Electric Hydraulic Pump Switch-ON
49. Flaps-SET Takeoff flaps (~25)
50. Advance throttle to ~1.4EPR (levers in vertical position)
51. Allow engines to stabilize then advance throttle to takeoff EPR (?EPR<<what is the proper EPR value for takeoff thrust?)

Climb and Cruise
52. At or above 10,000ft Landing Lights-OFF
53. ---omitted----
54. Once Established in level flight, if the Center tanks have usable fuel, you can turn the fuel pumps on. Turn them off once the Center tank LOW Pressure lights illuminate.

Approach
55. Set AutoBrake selector-Desired Setting
56. When on localizer intercept heading-Select AUTO APP
57. Gear-DOWN
58. Speedbrake lever-ARM (what percentage, perhaps 10%?)

Landing
59. Reverse Thrust-AS NEEDED
60. Disarm AUTO BRAKE when approaching taxi speed

After Landing and Shutdown
61. APU-START
62. Pitot Static Heat-OFF
63. Flt/GRD Switch-GRD
64. Landing/Taxi lights-AS NEEDED
65. Engine Start Switches-OFF
66. Autobrake selector-OFF
67. Flaps-UP
68. Parking break-SET
69. APU Generator Switches-OFF
70. Mixture Control Levers-CUTOFF
71. Anti Collision light switch-OFF
72. Fuel Pump switches-OFF
73. Galley pwer switch-OFF
74. Wing Anti Ice-OFF
75. Engine Ant Ice-OFF
76. Engine Hydraulic Pumps-ON
77. Electric Hydraluic Pumps-OFF
78. Gasper Fan-AS NEEDED (?)
79. PACK switches- OFF
80. Isolation Valve switch-AUTO
81. Engine Bleed Air switches-OFF
82. APU Bleed air switch-OFF
83. Lights-OFF
84. Flight Director Mode Selector-OFF
85. Heats-OFF
85. APU switch-OFF
86. Avionics Master-OFF
87. Battery Switch-OFF


Please let me know if you have any suggested changes I should make, thanks!

Title: Re: Captain Sim 737 Start Up and Flight Tutorial
Post by MrAlexCougar on May 29th, 2013 at 5:53am
You forgot the seat belt and smoking sign step and the fuel pumps should be on, otherwise the engines will stop working after the climb.  

Title: Re: Captain Sim 737 Start Up and Flight Tutorial
Post by N3su on Jun 8th, 2013 at 11:02am
thanx for ur effort !!!

Title: Re: Captain Sim 737 Start Up and Flight Tutorial
Post by Kalo on Aug 19th, 2013 at 6:14pm

MrAlexCougar wrote on May 29th, 2013 at 5:53am:
You forgot the seat belt and smoking sign step and the fuel pumps should be on, otherwise the engines will stop working after the climb.  


After which number in my list would you suggest to turn on the fuel pumps?

thanks for the feedback guys! I'd like to get this concise list as accurate as possible.

If there aren't any other recommendations soon I will post the link to a downloadable file as either a word document or excel spreadsheet in order for people to download and print off.

Title: Re: Captain Sim 737 Start Up and Flight Tutorial
Post by AlOl on Aug 19th, 2013 at 8:43pm

Fuel Pump Switches .... ON

According to the "Piedmont Airlines B-737 Operations Manual" they would do it between number 10 and 11.

Best regards
Alex

Title: Re: Captain Sim 737 Start Up and Flight Tutorial
Post by Kalo on Aug 20th, 2013 at 8:11am

AlOl wrote on Aug 19th, 2013 at 8:43pm:

Fuel Pump Switches .... ON

According to the "Piedmont Airlines B-737 Operations Manual" they would do it between number 10 and 11.

Best regards
Alex


thanks! If anyone else has other suggestion, please feel free to mention them.

Title: Re: Captain Sim 737 Start Up and Flight Tutorial
Post by g7usl on Aug 21st, 2013 at 3:40pm
Cold and dark, I can't start the engines, after starting the APU with the bleed on.  Packs off, Fuel pumps on. The NG's start so why not this one?

Advise please?

EDIT: Okay don't bother, found the answer here. http://youtu.be/lFxx7a8Yr_M

Title: Re: Captain Sim 737 Start Up and Flight Tutorial
Post by Kalo on Aug 22nd, 2013 at 2:25pm

g7usl wrote on Aug 21st, 2013 at 3:40pm:
Cold and dark, I can't start the engines, after starting the APU with the bleed on.  Packs off, Fuel pumps on. The other's start so why not this one?


What did you find was the problem? I noticed if you wait to long after turning the APU on the engine does not start....maybe because the batteries are too low.

Maybe it would be good to add the external power step for this tutorial.

Title: Re: Captain Sim 737 Start Up and Flight Tutorial
Post by g7usl on Aug 24th, 2013 at 10:23pm
Kalo, Let's just say that an NG start up is different from the '200'. 8-) ::)

Title: Re: Captain Sim 737 Start Up and Flight Tutorial
Post by g7usl on Aug 24th, 2013 at 10:24pm
By the way where can I find the Flight Tutorial? :o

Title: Re: Captain Sim 737 Start Up and Flight Tutorial
Post by Markoz on Aug 25th, 2013 at 3:01am

g7usl wrote on Aug 24th, 2013 at 10:24pm:
By the way where can I find the Flight Tutorial? :o

There isn't one.

Title: Re: Captain Sim 737 Start Up and Flight Tutorial
Post by Kalo on Aug 27th, 2013 at 6:07am
;D

Title: Re: Captain Sim 737 Start Up and Flight Tutorial
Post by weedwakerwilson on Aug 29th, 2013 at 9:57pm
If someone can please help me it will be greatly appreciated,


After I start both engines for some reason I cannot shut off the APU. I try using the switch and it will not move to the off position only the start position. If I click the switch too much it will get stuck in the start position and will not move anywhere.  I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling and nothing seems to work. Any help is welcome!

Thank you

Title: Re: Captain Sim 737 Start Up and Flight Tutorial
Post by Markoz on Aug 30th, 2013 at 2:51am

weedwakerwilson wrote on Aug 29th, 2013 at 9:57pm:
If someone can please help me it will be greatly appreciated,


After I start both engines for some reason I cannot shut off the APU. I try using the switch and it will not move to the off position only the start position. If I click the switch too much it will get stuck in the start position and will not move anywhere.  I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling and nothing seems to work. Any help is welcome!

Thank you

Have you tried clicking on the APU switch using the right mouse button? That should turn the APU off.

Title: Re: Captain Sim 737 Start Up and Flight Tutorial
Post by weedwakerwilson on Aug 30th, 2013 at 4:15pm
Markoz,

I have tried right clicking the switch and nothing has happened. I have found a temporary fix by starting both engines then tripping the Battery switch. The APU will then shut down.

Thank you for your response

Title: Re: Captain Sim 737 Start Up and Flight Tutorial
Post by Markoz on Aug 31st, 2013 at 2:24am
I'm not sure why the APU won't turn off. Repair the 737. Run the installer again, select Repair, when the option to Repair or Uninstall comes up. See if that fixes it.
Don't forget to run the installer as an administrator, by right mouse clicking on it and selecting Run as administrator, IF you are using Vista/Win7/Win8.

Hope this helps.

Title: Re: Captain Sim 737 Start Up and Flight Tutorial
Post by g7usl on Sep 3rd, 2013 at 11:11pm

Markoz wrote on Aug 25th, 2013 at 3:01am:

g7usl wrote on Aug 24th, 2013 at 10:24pm:
By the way where can I find the Flight Tutorial? :o

There isn't one.


So, why the title of this thread. Is this some kind of joke?

Title: Re: Captain Sim 737 Start Up and Flight Tutorial
Post by Markoz on Sep 4th, 2013 at 2:14am

g7usl wrote on Sep 3rd, 2013 at 11:11pm:

Markoz wrote on Aug 25th, 2013 at 3:01am:

g7usl wrote on Aug 24th, 2013 at 10:24pm:
By the way where can I find the Flight Tutorial? :o

There isn't one.


So, why the title of this thread. Is this some kind of joke?

If I was the person who started the topic, I would have simply named it Captain Sim 737 Engine Start, or something along those lines. :-?

Title: Re: Captain Sim 737 Engine Start
Post by Captain Sim 2 on Sep 4th, 2013 at 8:24am
Mark, good point. I have re-named the topic.

Title: Re: Captain Sim 737 Start Up and Flight Tutorial
Post by CesarSMX on Jan 21st, 2015 at 6:23am

Kalo wrote on Aug 19th, 2013 at 6:14pm:

MrAlexCougar wrote on May 29th, 2013 at 5:53am:
You forgot the seat belt and smoking sign step and the fuel pumps should be on, otherwise the engines will stop working after the climb. �


After which number in my list would you suggest to turn on the fuel pumps?

thanks for the feedback guys! I'd like to get this concise list as accurate as possible.

If there aren't any other recommendations soon I will post the link to a downloadable file as either a word document or excel spreadsheet in order for people to download and print off.



Hello!!

Im just wondering, Do you have the spreadsheet??? or do anybody have one??

Greetings!.

Thank you very much for this.

Title: Re: Captain Sim 737 Engine Start
Post by Ebodee on Feb 9th, 2015 at 12:39am
My suggestion is to reorder this into a flow pattern.  Assuming Avionics master is on:

1. Battery Selector - Bus
2. Battery On
3. Check Metering
4. External Power Selector or APU Gen set
5. Turn on External Power selector or start APU
6. Check APU Gen - Metering or, before using external power, check metering
7.  Perform visual flow on overhead though each vertical segment.

How I do it and I will upload a raw vid (love raw since mimics real life rather than edited sequence or rubbish) on visual flow patterns.  But this is in the manual documentation provided by Captain Sim.

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