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Message started by boeing247 on Dec 20th, 2011 at 11:34pm

Title: Re: Arrivals and Departures with older jetliners
Post by LOU on Jan 12th, 2012 at 10:24pm
Arrivals with older, non INS, IRS, GPS aircraft - The way it used to be!  :P

Lets have a look at a standard arrival into KJFK using the CAMRN arrival.
This is a pretty simple arrival. Look at the lower part of the arrival plate.
It has a written summery of the arrival. This arrival has only one bend in the route.
In the graphic display you can see how to set up the NAV radios for this arrival.

Your high altitude routing would get you to Sea Isle (SIE) VOR.
The arrival starts on the 049 degree radial out of SIE 114.8
Set SIE in the pilot flying NAV radio. The distance to BOTON is 25 DME.
You could also set the 124 degree radial of ACY in the other VOR and when the needle centers you are at BOTON - DME is easier, but if for some reason the DME was inop, you could still check the BOTON intersection.

The next intersection is HOGGS. It is 13 more DME on the 049 degree radial of SIE. See the box around 38? They even do the math for you.
HOGGS could also be figured by the 162 degree radial of CYN VOR.
HOGGS has an EXPECT to cross restriction of FL180. So if you are doing this arrival the old fashion way, you would need to figure the rate of descent to make the crossing at HOGGS. 3X the altitude, depending on wind will normally work.

So for example if you cross SIE at FL250 and are cleared to 11,000 you would need to adjust your descent rate to cross HOGGS at FL180 and still plan CAMRN at 110 & 250. The difference between your altitude at SIE - FL250 and HOGGS FL180 is 7,000 feet. 3X7=21. You need about 21 miles without drag and at idle to make the altitude change. You have 38 miles, so it should be easy to accomplish.

The only hooker is if ATC gives you a slower speed for traffic, then you might need to whine, or just use a little speed brake.  ;D

Assuming the DME is working, you can stay on SIE all the way to KARRS. Now you have to switch VOR frequency to 117.7 DPK and adjust the OBS to 041 degrees (or the 221 degree radial out of DPK) to make CAMRN at 53 DME.

Normally as you approach CAMRN you would be switched to approach at KJFK and get radar vectors for the approach.

Simple!  ;)

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