Hi!
I've a problem with the LC-130. When I choose this model I get an error message about Flight model can not loaded?

Please help and thank You

The problem could be in the panel.

Open the panel.cfg and see what it has in there. Most gauges should be entered similarly to this one:

gauge01=..\..\CS_C130\panel\Captain_Sim.c130.main!main, 15,0,10,10

Or it could be in the model. So make sure that the model.cfg has this:

[models]
normal=..\..\CS_EX2_C130\model\c130-13
interior=..\..\CS_EX2_C130\model\c130-13_interior

Hope this helps.

Mark

My panel.cfg and the model looks like that, but it doesn't help! :(
All other variants work.

Something is missing. Make sure that the file/folder structure of the LC130 is correct

folders in CS_EX2_LC130:

model.13
model.13g
panel
panel.g
sound
texture.us_pol

files in CS_EX2_LC130:

aircraft(.cfg)
C130(.air)

Is the entry in the aircraft.cfg the same as this:

[fltsim.0]
title=CS LC130Extra2 0
sim=C130
model=13
panel=
sound=
texture=us_pol
kb_checklists=
kb_reference=
atc_id=130
atc_airline=
atc_flight_number=
ui_manufacturer=Lockheed
ui_type="LC-130"
ui_variation="US NAVY (polar)"
ui_typerole="Multi-Engine TurboProp"
ui_createdby="Captain Sim"
description="'C-130 X-perience' Pro Pack v.1.3\n(c) 2008 Captain Sim www.captainsim.com"
flg="USA"

Make sure that sim=C130 is there and correct. If it isn't then you won't see the model either.

Mark

The problem is solved. A new installation helps, but I have another problem with the LC. I think it's a problem with the gear. The Lc leaned.
I've seen that there is a Problem with ext tanks. There is only ext.2 filled. I can't fill ext.1

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Hi,
I've tested something and it's a problem with the external tanks. If I uncheck the box in ACE everthing is normal and if I use the ext. tanks engine 1 and 4 are both off and the Herc. cranked to the right side. If I go to the default fuel I can see that the ext.1 is empty and I cannot fill it up. Any ideas?
Sorry for my bad english!

Greetings

Try running the C-130 ACE as an administrator (Windows Vista/7) by Right Mouse Button clicking on the ACE, select Run as administrator from the list that pops up. Then add or remove the External Fuel Tanks  (saving between changes) and see if that helps.

Mark

Have I done. It does not helping.

Is this only happening with the LC-130? Or is it happening on other C-130's as well?

Mark

The problem is with all models. I can't fill the left ext. tank. If I increase the fuel level with the default FSX mode (on my it's button W) every gauge gets up to full except ext. left tank. And when I go to the FSX Fuel and Loadout manager ext. right is 100 and ext. left is 0. When I change ext. 1 to 100 and press ok to save You can see the gauge an the Airplane increase to normal level and then fall down to 0 ! Always only the ext. left (1) on every model! The screenshot shows the 130E

Thank You and please help me  :-[

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Is the W key set to Fuel quantity (increase)?
On mine, using that setting, I can fill all the fuel tanks except for both of the external fuel tanks. It's strange that you can fill one external fuel tank but not the other, while I can't fill either of them.

Mark

Yes it is. With W I cannot fill the ext. tanks too. If that is normal, then it worked right. The one ext. tank I can only fill with the FSX fuel and loadout window. I have done a reinstall as admin., but always the same problem with all models.

To be honest I can understand why one Ext. Fuel Tank gets full, while the other does not. I would have thought it would either work or not work (as is the case for me) when filling the Ext Fuel Tanks.

Have you tried filling the External 1 tank using the ALT > Aircraft > Fuel and Payload > Change Fuel and adding 100% to the Ext 1 tank?

Mark

Yes I have, but this don't work. With this method I only can fill the EXT.2 tank. I can change the EXT.1 to 100 and when I'm back in the VC I can see that EXT.1 was up and fall down to 0. If I change EXT.2 to 50 or what else everything is ok and worked. The problem is only with the EXT.1. The only way for me to have the plane stand straight is to set EXT.2 to 0. Is there a text for the tanks in the CFG about how many ext tanks like the 767 has it with the winglets ( 0 or 1)? Or what change the ACE?

Greetings

Try this. Open the C-130 ACE. Select the LC-130. Select the option to remove the eternal tanks. Press SAVE. Run FSX and select the LC-130, and check the fuel by remove all fuel. Add fuel using your W key. See if it fills all the tanks. Exit FSX.

Go back to the C-130 ACE. Select the LC-130. Add the external tanks. Press SAVE. Run FSX and select the LC-130, and check the fuel by remove all fuel. Add fuel using your W key.

I'm just trying to see if removing the external tanks and adding them again will sort it out.

Mark

Merry Christmas Markoz!  :)
First step without the tanks: All tanks fill except the ext. tanks
Second step with the ext. tanks: All tanks fill except the ext. tanks
After this I using the ALT > Aircraft > Fuel and Payload and set ext.1 and ext.2 to 100.
Ext.2 has 100 and hold it
Ext.1 has 100 and fall fast (1-2 seconds) to 0

Greetings

Merry Christmas to you too.

It sounds like the fuel dump is OPEN but only dumping from the Ext.1 tank! Weird. This should not be happening. :(

Mark

How can I fix it?

cougar wrote on Dec 26^th, 2011 at 3:40pm:

How can I fix it?

Sorry, but I don't know how to fix it. I think you need to submit a Support Ticket. :(

Since it is not possible for me to start a new topic I will add it here:

Has anyone notice that the low fuel lights doesn't light? It does not matter how less fuel is in the (e.g. ext) tank - the light does not come up!

Is there a possibility to repair this?

Sorry for this circumstance But I am not able to start a new topic

After Engine start or during flight suddenly the Radio panle and
Sorry for that circumstance, but I am not able to open a new topic.
I think about software bug

After Engine start or during flight suddenly the Radio panel and Autopilot panol shuts down.

It is not possible to tune VHF, VNAV and ADF in the radio panel and not possible to power on the autopilot panel

I am using 2D mode and both panels in singel windows.

All othe panels are using well

Are there any ideas about bug?

Steffen wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2015 at 10:39am:

After Engine start or during flight suddenly the Radio panel and Autopilot panol shuts down.

The GPS is also off then, right? Have had the same problem. This is not a bug, but this has to do with the to Power-Switches "Copilot AC Instrument Switch" and "AC Instrument and Engine Switch". First one have to be in position "Essential AC Bus", Second to "Essential DC Bus".

Reset both Switches first after loading the flight for prober initilalization. After this all shoud be working as it should  :)

Thank you, but both switches have only the position Off or connection to DC and/or AS Bus but no reset as at the generator switches

Ok, simply turn it shortly to "off", that should be enough  :)

In addition I would suggest to turn always the "Nacelle preheat" switches to "on" - this avoid problems with freezing systems.

Thanks I try it; Today freezing again VHF, NAV and Autopilot engage

short feedback.
Flight EDDW-EDDC without freezing.
But I observe an calibration error
ILS Approach on RWY 22 at EDDC
ILS frequ 109,7 direction 219
but  HSI and course selector at 219 course deviation shows 222
I put my airplain ant the beginning of RWY 22, the compass card shows 222 too

I think this occurs with every airplane. This is because the localizer isn't in place correctly. This is an airport error.

Thanks
But bck to my previous problem
>>>After Engine start or during flight suddenly the Radio panel and Autopilot panel shuts down.
It is not possible to tune VHF, VNAV and ADF in the radio panel and not possible to power on the autopilot panel>>>>

Ok, simply turn it shortly to "off", that should be enough  Smiley

>>>In addition I would suggest to turn always the "Nacelle preheat" switches to "on" - this avoid problems with freezing systems. <<<<

done, one flight without problems but flight just EDDK-EDDV freezing NAV, VOR and Autopilot suddenly during taxi.
Sorry, but if this problem not solved I am not willing to use C-130 again. :-[ abslolut frustration

Don't know what's your problem with this. I can fly over the antartica with OAT -73°C on FL400 and NOTHING freezes  8-)

I assume that you always activate the pitot heaters - this is also very important to avoid freezing systems.

freezed are only the digital vealue input of VOR and VHF and the activation knop of autopilot
Pitot heat, engine inlet air duct antiicing, propeller ice control, antiice empenage, wing antiice are always active.
As said before the freezing problem occurs at the ground and during flight without systematics. I fly only in 2D-mode to have a better look an the different panels.

engine start with from cold&dark procedure
I load standard cessna, shut down, engine, battery and avonic
Load C130J
start GTC procedure
connect AC Bus and DC bus
Engine fuel enrichment auto
oil cooler flaps auto
aux pump on
engine succ pump on
ground speed button down
engine bleed Air valve Nr 3 open
throttle Nr3 air start
ground start button nr 3  press.
all boost tank pumps are on

but in all cases engine doesn't start

If I use Ctl+E engines starts no 4 no3 no2 no1 step by step without effects if fuel pumps are on or off

It seams to be a basic problem.
Are ther anybody with ideas?




Throttle nr 3

The Condition Levers have to be in "Run" Position. This could be a bit fiddly, the lever has to be exact in postion - 1 mm above or under the engine won't start [smiley=undecided.gif]

I suggest to save the flight with "hot and warm" C-130 (engines running), this saves times and nerves. I only use engine start procedure very rare.

Sometimes it's easier to start the engines using the 2D panels (SHIFT+2 > Overhead panel (upper) button and  Throttle Quadrant panel) rather than the VC panels. Sometimes the engines start just by left clicking on the 2D Throttle Quadrant panel to move the condition levers to AIR START!

I believe the start problem is solved.
If there no fuel in tank 3 and 2 you must open the fuel pumps all the time

But the other basic problem is not solved
During the flight suddenly radio panel, autopilot and radar pennel shuts down. You can continue the flight but without orientation.
All electric energy is on.
This error does not observe at every flight.

Ideas from anybody?

I need

I set the Copilot AC Instruments Switch and AC instrument and Engine Switch, on the OH panel (lower), to the Essential AC Bus (yellow lines) once the engines are started, and I don't lose electrical power during my flights.

I've explained this in my reply #21.

I think your Power-Switches are not set correctly. Look again, maybe you have confused the positions.

>>>The Condition Levers have to be in "Run" Position. This could be a bit fiddly, the lever has to be exact in postion - 1 mm above or under the engine won't start<<<<
I can confirm your observetion.
If I start in cold&dark the condition levers are in the feather position
If I touch the the levers they jump in the run position exactly.
I think this was a reason for engine start problems too

Mustang1977 wrote on Jan 20^th, 2015 at 12:53pm:

I've explained this in my reply #21. I think your Power-Switches are not set correctly. Look again, maybe you have confused the positions.

So you did. :o Sorry

Umm... I backed up your advice. ;D

No problem man, two is better  :)

>>>>I set the Copilot AC Instruments Switch and AC instrument and Engine Switch, on the OH panel (lower), to the Essential AC Bus (yellow lines) once the engines are started, and I don't lose electrical power during my flights. <<<<<
You are sure both switches to connect with AC-bus.
As learned from turorial Co-pilot ro AC-bus and AC instrumen to DC-bus

I observe that radar is inactiv at TCAS-position (no indication of outer flights) if I flight online at Vatsim

I fight with the freezing problem of Radio panel digits and autopilot
After flight EDDG-EDDN without problems I bring the airplane referred to th checklist in cold&dark status.
Some times later I would start again to EDDT but Radio panel digit and autopilot switches are frozen.
The same situation after restart Windows.
But if I shut down the computer completely no problem with Radio digits and autopilot switch.
This situation is absolut unpleasant  >:(

Strange problem you have. The problem have to be outside of the C-130. Maybe an other version of FSUPIC would help? It goes without saying that you also familiar with the uiautomationcore.dll? This file have to be in the root directory of FSX.

Furthermore it is obvious to run the FSX "as administrator".

dear all,
it is an absolut desaster with this flight.
I start the computer (win7 64bit)fresh, load FSX as admin, load cessna and shut down, load C-130 and start the engines.
But during the flight suddenly only radio panel and autopilot panel dont work. Autopilot panel shut down
No values input or other activities are possible on both panels.

Add this line electric_always_available=1 in the [electrical] section of the aircraft.cfg (if it is not already there).

[electrical]
max_battery_voltage=24
generator_alternator_voltage=28
max_generator_alternator_amps=60
electric_always_available=1
autopilot=0, 5, 17
avionics_bus=0, 10, 17
avionics=1, 5, 17
gear_warning=0, 2, 17
fuel_pump=0, 5, 17
fuel_transfer_pump = 0, 5, 17
light_nav=0, 5, 17
light_beacon=0, 5, 17
light_landing=0, 5, 17
light_taxi=0, 5, 17
light_strobe=0, 5, 17
light_panel=0, 5, 17

Having that there should prevent the loss of the avionics during the flight.

Many thanks for a way to solve this problem
But the sentence is present.
I am wondering that only this two panels are always the problem panels. No others. Always this two.
Today I try again EDDW_EDDP and take screen shots at different situations.
hope it could be helpful

best regards
Michael

electrical]
max_battery_voltage=24
generator_alternator_voltage=28
max_generator_alternator_amps=60
electric_always_available=1
autopilot=0, 5, 17
avionics_bus=0, 10, 17
avionics=0, 5, 17
gear_warning=0, 2, 17
fuel_pump=0, 5, 17
fuel_transfer_pump = 0, 5, 17
light_nav=0, 5, 17
light_beacon=0, 5, 17
light_landing=0, 5, 17
light_taxi=0, 5, 17
light_strobe=0, 5, 17
light_panel=0, 5, 17
light_cabin=0, 5, 17

at first I attache different sceen shots during flight preparation and cruse but i can attache only one.
I tried a flight again EDDW_EDDP
Just before approach the software load something (blue rotating circle on the screen) and radio panel and AP panel are frozen.
After landing and using reverse trust electrical power and engines are completely shut down.
Hope we could find the reason

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Quote:

at first I attache different sceen shots during flight preparation and cruse but i can attache only one.

Something went wrong with the attached screenshot and I can't access it. :(


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I tried a flight again EDDW_EDDP Just before approach the software load something (blue rotating circle on the screen) and radio panel and AP panel are frozen. After landing and using reverse trust electrical power and engines are completely shut down. Hope we could find the reason

Although FSX freezing when it puts a large load on you CPU is understandable, it shouldn't cause the electrical power to turn off, or the engines to shut down.

Does this happen in other C-130 models, not just with the LC-130? It would assume that it does, but it will help to know for sure. :(

There are two possibilities for me, first to reject this aircraft or to look for reason of the problems. I prefere the second one. Therefore I start today with same procedures and same flight route as yesterday EDDW_EDDP.
Since I start after fresh load WIN-System I am always able to start the engines one by one from cold&dark situation.
From EDDW start and reach FL without problems. After 23 min cruise suddenly shut down of AP and Radio panel as always before.
But it seems that AP goes in reset mode. Normally I use AP with the three switches A, IN, R in up mode, but now switche was in down mode.
I attache a screen shot of this situation.
Another observation. I observe the Aircraft in a second window with external sight.
I begin with C130J wheel chocks.
After changes the main window f. es between overhaed panel 1 and 2  the wheel chocks are removed and unable to move again.
OK; I would like to try it again with another aircraft; what do you prefere for this test?

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now a second screen shot after shut down situation

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and now the third one
Now alle pictures are below 500 kb

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Can't access the screenshots, it always say's "Forbidden"  :-?

Make an attachement-test for myself. Can you see my screen?

Hmm, can't access it. There is something wrong with this attachment-function ...

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it is also forbidden for myself.
Any suggestion to receive the screen shots?

Of course, you can use

http://imgur.com/

One of the best platforms in my opinion.

Thank you
You find three images
after shut down ap and radio panelcompressed.jpg
after shut down ap and radio panelcompressed2.jpg
after shut down ap and radio panelcompressed3.jpg
as screen shots of all panels and views

Ähm, ya hafta use the links and post it here  ;D

When generating the links use this form

BBCode (message boards & forums), Original Image

and "Original Size".

http://i.imgur.com/8NBDKOY.jpg?1
http://i.imgur.com/IRZtJPR.jpg?1
http://i.imgur.com/8noUgxC.jpg?1

image size 600 kb

Hey,

Ich seh da grad nen deutschen FSX  ;) - kannst Du etwa auch Deutsch?

Shows this screen - http://i.imgur.com/IRZtJPR.jpg1 - the configuration inflight?

Moin,
das war mein erster Versuch des Bildimportes.
Ich wohne in der Nähe von Hamburg

Aaah, alles klar  ;)

Wegen der Fairness halber sollten wir hier aber trotzdem Englisch schreiben, für unsere Ãœberseekollegen  :)

Wegen dem Screen jetzt (IRZtJPR.jpg1) - ist das am Boden oder im Flug?

all screen shots Posted on: Feb 9th, 2015 at 2:40pm
are during flight quick done after shutdown AP and radio panel.
As said before it seems that AP is in a reset mode.

Soso, - "during flight" - so kou des jo nix werdn xD  ;D

I see that you haven't followed my instructions at post #21 - the power switches and the Battery Switch is in wrong positions - of course this will cause problems  ::)

Here are your screen with the wrong switches. The Battery Switch have to be in "Battery"!

All marked switches have to be in upright positions!

>>> Corrected screen see my next post <<<

In Addition I would set the "fuel enrichment" switches to "normal".

Message 21 <<<<This is not a bug, but this has to do with the to Power-Switches "Copilot AC Instrument Switch" and "AC Instrument and Engine Switch". First one have to be in position "Essential AC Bus", Second to "Essential DC Bus". >>>>
It seems to be a misunderstanding in the past too.
Now "Copilot AC Instrument " connect "Essential AC Bus" position is horizontal; "AC indtrument.." to "Essential DC BUS" is upright, OK
AC Power switch OFF and DC Power switch Battery.
I will try a flight with this configuration
When do you disconnect the AC Power switch, after start of the first engine or after all egines started?

After Start of the first engine - one engine is enough to produce your own Power  ;)

EDIT: Ah sorry, my mistake. I sometimes get confused with this switches. Here is the correct "combination" (marked switches have to be in upright positions):

http://www.imgbox.de/users/Mustang1977/FSX/thumbnails/C_130Overhead2_t.gif

ok, thank you.
I try this weekend a couple of c-130 flights and will report you about observations.

http://i.imgur.com/Tj7YltO.jpg?1
http://i.imgur.com/9mlH1Rg.jpg?1
http://i.imgur.com/66dbvUh.jpg?1
bad news; Aircraft was prepared until push/back with engine running.
But I have to stop the FSX via Pause-switch about 1 hour.
Back to FSX radio panel and AP are frozen as before
Pictures show the situation on ground.  :'(

Yo,

You mean the problem occured during pause FSX (simulation stopped)? This means the problem have to be outside of FSX.

On your screens I can see that you have subdivide the 2D panels outside the FSX-Mainwindow. Maybe this have to do with this?

<<<<You mean the problem occured during pause FSX (simulation stopped)? This means the problem have to be outside of FSX.>>>
Yes; correct.

>>>On your screens I can see that you have subdivide the 2D panels outside the FSX-Mainwindow. <<<<
If possible at the different aircraft I use 2D-panels and transfer other panel windows to the second window to have a better look on the switches as using virtuel window.

But I suggest a reproducibility test.
After fresh PC start and cessna cold&dark I load c-130 with subdivide 2 d windows. Situation as before with simulation stop about 1 hour.
After that the same procedure but without subdividing.

One question, do you using virtual window?

Malzeit,

Whats "virtual window"? Fenstermodus? Yes, in Full Screen there are errors when I save my flight's. In "windowed mode" the FSX runs better - I had no crash for a very long time  :)

You can test this in "Full Screen" Mode and see what happend. When the problem did'nt occur, you are a bit closer to the cause.

I thinkd the problem is solved.
I fligh with different combinations of window; AP and Radio panel in the main window, others out os
oll in the main window.
But in all cases with freezing.
But if I fligh without vatsim connection and all windowas out of the main window no problem.
Vatsim connecting produced the problem. :-[

I tok flight with fsinn but without cavok connection.
No problem at the time
I observe flight with this configuration furthermore and give feedback

No positiv feedback
Cavok at FSINN seems to be not the reason for freezing.
The sole reproducibility without problems is flight without FSINN
At all other combinations and/or configurations follow freezing after less or more online time.
I think I finish this project.

Steffen wrote on Feb 15^th, 2015 at 12:36pm:

I think I finish this project.

What project exactly? I hope not the hole C-130. Just fly offline and all is ok, right?

sorry, but if I don't find any solutions/ideas for influence of FSINN to C-130 I stop flight with this aercraft.
Offlineflight is not the solution.
Summarised FSINN produced a reset in AP.
Another possibility is to look into the software to stop such interferances.

I found a note to bring all .exe-files of the FSINN-Software in ADMIN-status. Load FSX and FSINN
I tok this. But before line up RWY 26 EDVE Autopilot reset and Radiopanel freeze.

Last possibility.
I change FSINN against Vpilot.
Put in the correct ATC frequence but I don't receive analy voice connect.
If I change to another aircraft voice connect immediately.
If there any setup to do in the .cfg-file?

Observation at trying to connect vpilot with voice.
By chance I load C130 directly (situation with running engines) and observe voice connect at vpilot.
All time before I load FSX-Chessna first, shut down and load afterwards c130 to receive cold&dark status.
After the above obeservation I thought at myself to change the cold&dark strategy by following steps to expand to FSINN:
1. Load standard c130 ; 2. cut off the engines, switch all switches to off, AC and DC power OFF; Essential AS busses Off.
3. store this situation an cold&dark.
I followed this instructions for flight EDDW_EDDP
Load C130;Load stored cold/dark;connect FSINN; prepare and start the aircraft.
Always voice connect, no freezing or AP reset.
Start again at EDVE to EDHA using obove strategy.
No problems :)
In the past I had always freezing problems as written in messages before.
I think I found the solution for stressfree flight with c130.

Nice to hear that  :)

If you fly offline, this problem had never occured  ;)

It was a big step for me but it is an new experiance for the community.
Now we are able to flight together and not always alone in offline mode ;D

I observed another situation
I used push back by reverse thrust. But after few minutes all engines shut down. My question now is how can I restart?
I start APU to generate pressure but wthout success

How can i get the 747 Panel out of the aircraft and get it to work i have other Captain sim C130 produdcts the pro For FSX add the CL 130 to it But i dont the 747 panel