hello when it is night time in the 707 the night textures for all the guages dont apear so its like flying in a big black cloud :D any ideas

It does it to me to John I have tried a lot but still cant find a way to fix it any help would be GREAT.  :D :D :D :D :) :) :) ;) ;) ;)

Did you turn the lights on  :o try pressing L.

Have you tried turning the lights ON using the switches on OH panel (S02, S07 & S20)? There are 9 of them.
There are also two light switches on the Center Aisle AFT for the radios (P14).
Two on the FE panel as well (S08).  
Using SHIFT+L will turn on the "Light Override Switch" on the OH Panel (S20), it turns the Cabin Lights on.

http://i669.photobucket.com/albums/vv58/Markoz958/CS707_lightswitches.jpg
I have placed the panel reference numbers (from the manual) beneath each set of light switches

Mark

Yes it comes on for a second then is gone  :(

Version 1.3? Is the Landing Gear missing as well?

Yes to both i have 1.3 and i do have landing gear man im stumped!!!!!!! ;D

Ok i fixed it instead of hitting "L" i went and turned the swiches so thanks guys :)

Mark, or anyone--- are there any passenger cabin lights that show up in spot view(exterior)? I can't find a switch. Shift l does a nice job of illuminating the panels, but not the passenger cabin while in spot view. Thanks!

Bruce

SHIFT+L or the Light Override switch on the OverHead panel controls the cabin lights (see panel O20 in the image in reply #3 above). They are not really bright enough to be seen from the outside until it is very dark. :(

Better night lighting for the cabin has been requested in the 707 Captain - It's e nice if... forum. So hopefully in a future update we'll get it.

Mark

Okay Mark, thanks. I couldn't see them from spot view when it was totally dark. Kinda takes the fun out of the night flights especially if you are making videos.

Bruce

btscott wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2011 at 1:37pm:

I couldn't see them from spot view when it was totally dark.

That's where SHIFT+L comes in handy! ;D

Mark

Mark -

I did use shift+L. It lit up the instrument panels nicely, but there were no passenger cabin lights visible while in spot view.??

Bruce

Bruce, there are no lights in the cabin because the folks are all sleeping... leave them alone!  :P

btscott wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2011 at 7:57pm:

Mark - I did use shift+L. It lit up the instrument panels nicely, but there were no passenger cabin lights visible while in spot view.?? Bruce

I can only see them (barely) if it is really dark. That is why the request for better cabin lighting is in the 707 Captain - It'd be nice if... forum. ;)

@ LOU - mine probably don't need light because they have already died of fright! Or they never got on the plane because they found out I am the Captain! ;D

Mark

Lou-- for crying out loud!! While you guys up front are goofing off drinking coffee, there are fare paying passengers in the back trying to enjoy themselves with a couple Manhattans and a tiny bag of pretzels!! The cabin lights are dimmed for take off (and landing), but then turned up at least until the stupid $5 movie starts!!!  ;D

Mark --- I actually did see the cabin lights, but they are almost in-discernible in spot view.

Bruce

Ok Bruce,

My passengers are having supper in pressurized air conditioned comfort.
Notice the smooth Jetstream TWA -300 heading for Milan with a full load.
You can see some of the window shades are closed, but most folks are enjoying the caviar and frozen Vodka along with the great selection of quality single barrel Bourbons that gladly accept a cherry and a bit of sweet vermouth. Ahhhhh air travel!    :P

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/4952/707pitnight4.jpg

Old days ONLY... new passengers need not apply!  :-[

Lou

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HAH!! Very good, Lou!!! Great imagination! Frozen Russian vodka and caviar!?? On TWA?? I've flown TWA 747s (and 707s) in F/CL and don't remember that!! I did see that on a BA Concorde flt one time and had about 4 servings of both before dinner on a IAD/LHR flight.

I am in the process of making a video (jetpilot had me figured out) of Pan Am's 1963 RTW flt 002 ex JFK. It's just the PAA 707 leaving all the airports going eastbound. I used a picture of me at my desk in DENPA res 1963 and recorded a fone ringing with my voice answering etc. also used some PAA songs as well as Frank Sinatra's *Come Fly With Me*. Am currently in HNL getting ready to fly the final leg to SFO of which I'll use some video clips of the whole flight. That flt left HNL at 1330 and arrived in SFO about 2100. Have not tried landing the CS 707 at night --- should be interesting. Would have finished it today, but spent the entire day riding from HD store to HD store after doing Estes Park first. A perfect 97 degree day here with no rain and 147 miles. Man, it was hot! Three beer stops helped though!

Btw, I don't think that red beacon works on my ac and I turn on all the light switches!??

Bruce

btscott wrote on Aug 24^th, 2011 at 2:53am:

Btw, I don't think that red beacon works on my ac and I turn on all the light switches!??

To get the Nav Lights and Beacon working again, I had to uninstall the 707, delete the CS_B707-300 folder and all its contents (because I had added additional liveries) then reinstall it.

Mark

Hey, Mark --- thanks for the tip. That sounds like a lot of effort though.

Bruce

Bruce, FC on the 707 and later the 747 was a wonderful experience. Each passenger had a welcome card at their seat with a flower. You were given a drink of your choice, usually champagne. After takeoff, the F/A's would come around with a cart with smoked salmon, finely chopped onions, capers, egg yoke, caviar, little toasts and vodka very cold in a block of ice. Latter, for dinner, the F/A's would cook the food to order. A cart with a Chateau of filet minion, small crisp potatoes and an assortment of veggies along with a selection of fine wine and followed with some wonderful deserts. Then, after dinner liquors.  Ahhhhh, those were the day my friend......

That sounds like a lot of effort though.
The effort is in adding you extra liveries again which doesn't take long. At least it doesn't take long for me because I'm doing it all the time. ;)

Ahhhhh, those were the day my friend......
I don't think I'm quite old enough for those times. But back in those day, it was probably the wealthy, or at least those who were able to save enough (a lot of) money to fly on the airliners. :(

Lou --- I just don't remember that level of food service (the caviar and frozen vodka). I do remember Chateau Briand and the flower kind of rings a bell though. I'm sure I did experience it though. I had some very good fiends in sales here and rode your airplanes at least half dozen times a year in F/CL. I remember Peter Sellers was a spokesman for TWA and he was on one of those travel agent fam trip flights to LHR. I still have my Lifetime TWA Ambassador Club card! A TWA flight attendant introduced me to the French Connection (after dinner drink) on the way back from Athens one time. It's one part Amaretto and two parts cognac. Magnificent! Sipped on them all the way to DEN--- including the layover in the JFK Ambassador's Club! Here's a picture of me and my buddy Steve who was the TWA Sales Manager in Denver. We're in the DEN Ambassador's Club getting ready to go somewhere.



Right now I'm 295 miles out of SFO, inbound from HNL. Had a yaw damper problem for quite some time and could not find a switch. Got it smoothed out finally though -- I think. Gotta re-file the IFR and check in with Oakland Center pretty soon.

Mark -- yes I've installed liveries hundred's of times. I may just have to re-install the 707.

Bruce

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Bruce, what a good looking guy on the left!!!

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Here is a photo I took, a long time ago...

http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/8835/slides0033.jpg

This was taken around 1975 in flight in a TWA 747 from Paris to New York.
My parents are in the front and my wife and two boys in rows behind.
Mark is correct, it was expensive to fly first class, and I would never
have had the chance had I not worked for an airline. I think Bruce,
you will agree. Today, airline employees seldom get to fly in first class
since the marketing people give the seats to high mileage fliers.

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Ooooh, the good old days are gone!! I went from Pan Am to running a large travel agency and my wife was a CO Golden Jet Desk Agent. We had the world at our feet. Didn't make any real money, but we lived like millionaires for 25 years! Went everywhere almost free. You wouldn't dare non-rev anywhere today. It might take 3 days to get to the coast!

Here's a couple pictures of bachelor party trip to MZT on a MX 727. TWA Steve was marrying his TWA flt attendant fiance and a bunch of us travel agents and airline folks kidnapped him from his office and took him to MZT for a 3 day weekend party. Doug Brown, the MX DEN Sales Mgr, blocked about 12 seats in the rear of a Fri non-stop DEN/MZT and, with the permission of his boss, we literally picked Steve up at the TWA Stapleton Sales Office and carried him onto the ac. His fiance delivered a packed bag and Doug had already check it in! Doug is the guy looking back over the top of the seat. Graeme Seaton, the guy on the left of Steve, was the Pan Am DSM in DEN at the time. I took the picture. It was wild times in the 70s! Just magical!



Bruce

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They really look like fun times from those days. I doubt you could even come close to doing that in this day and age.

Too bad I was only a teenager throughout the early-mid 70's. I never got the chance to do all that fun stuff.

Mark

Yeah, Mark, it was amazing throughout the 60s, 70s,and 80s. One time 6 of us met for lunch here in DEN on a Friday and ended up in Las Vegas for the weekend!

If you were in the travel business, in management, and well connected, there were limitless travel opportunities---- and all but free. Not much of that going on today.

Bruce

Flying today is best exemplified by F/O's like this...

http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/6986/slides0027.jpg

I don't know, I guess it's just a dog of a job.  ;D

How about this old photo...

http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/3447/slides0053.jpg

Fun days back then... No security, no TSA, no ID card at all!

Lou


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Lou --- Your dog doesn't look like he's having much fun!! Is that a *Freight Dog*?   :)

Would ya look at the hair on the Stews!! The one on the left looks exactly like Joan (forgot her maiden name) Steve's wife! I am going to send that pic to her! Wow, memories galore!

I gave up on the PA RTW video. I got all the way to SFO from HNL and my computer rebelled and crashed because I had the scenery turned up too high. Second attempt and the 707 auto pilot (operator) didn't work properly for localizer intercept plus way too much stuttering. On the third attempt when the glide slope engaged the ac did a nose dive for the ground. On both occasions I was able to disconnect and get on the ground, but the replays were so bad looking no amount of editing would have produced decent film clips. Lou, the real airplane must have been easier to hand fly smoothly than this darn computer sim!! Three whole days down the drain.

From a TWA and Epirotiki Cruise Lines travel agent familiarization cruise in the Greek Islands circa 1978! Santorini is the port of call.





Bruce

No image!  :-/

I can't seem to post images. I got a couple done above, but I have tried for 20 minutes or so and nothing works???

I'll try here-----

Santorini

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Here's the other one from Santorini---

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Bruce, try the link I put on all my posts with an image. It's very simple (that's how I'm able to use it!) and fast.

Lou

Okay, Lou I'll give it a shot.

With your permission I would like to send a regular size picture of your avatar to my ex TWA buddy Steve. I just sent him the link to the video you posted. He was very impressed. His son flys CO 737-800s. He's a TWA guy thru and thru. We have lots of great memories.

Bruce

Sure!  ;D

Well waddayaknow--- I saved your avatar to my desk top and when I clicked on it there was the larger picture! Disregard picture request!

Lou --- I sent that picture to Joan and here's her reply-----

If you'll get me that full size picture of your avatar I'll send it to both of them (divorced now)

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I actually think so. WOW I remember those uniforms and how hot they were. We all had tiny waste lines due to the patent leather
belts and polyester uniforms. Thanks for sending this.

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I forgot to ask who the pilot is?    



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From: Bruce Scott <el_guappo@comcast.net>
To: Lin and Joan Wise <osmf1@bellsouth.net>
Sent: Fri, August 26, 2011 1:13:22 PM
Subject: Is This You??


Joannie --- There's a retired career TWA captain that I chat with on one of the flight sim forums and he attached this picture to one of his posts. I told him the stew on the left looked like you --- is it you?

Bruce the photos I have are as big as you have.
Note for Peter - This is a TWA 767 with a TE "N" number :-?

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AT JFK with one of the  ex TWA ramp fellows.

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First Class in a 747

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Lou

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Great pics! Got'em!

About 8 years ago when moving from KY to TX I threw away about 30 trays of travel slides. Nobody was interested in them and I had seen them a jillion times and they were getting faded and dark. I only saved a couple trays. which I coverted to digital pics. The Santorini shots were part of them.

I signed up with ImageShack, but haven't tried to upload anything yet.

Lou --

Response from TWA Stew Joan --

I do remember him. If you talk to him he might remember me by my maiden name Millisack


Bruce

At my age... a picture might help!  :D

The one on the left!

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Bruce, that was taken in 1969 or 70.

Please show her this http://youtu.be/VWVLLC23g2U

Ask her if she ever flew with Jacques and Connie Charbinier.

In the video around 2:50

Jacques was a Flight Service manager and Connie was his wife. I flew with them many times - they flew as a pair, husband & wife. Connie was an artist. She painted a wonderful portraiture of my wife which hangs just behind me in the computer room. Another in the video, Marit Rhodes is in the picture shown right before Jacques and Connie. Marit was on Flight 800 along with her husband Scott Rhodes and Jacques and Connie.  Marit is the brunette.  The blonde with Marit is Jannelle Jensen.  She was Connie's roommate out of training and Jacques and Connie's dearest best friend.  :'(

Lou

Lou ---

Finally got her reply----


Thank You for sending this. I am sending this to my flying friends, I am sure they will love seeing this.
Yes I knew them and I flew with them as well. That was the international days. I also flew the 880 when I first started flying in Chicago, I loved that airplane. 12 seats in first class and 77 in coach.

Bruce

Lou, I got this from Joan just now (9/11 story). I'm sure you have a story as well ----

It was a tough day for me. I don't know if you knew, there were 11 planes targeted that day and I
was on one of them. We were heading to LA and our departure was 8:50 on a L1011. We had the 3 that
were headed to Houston after the failed departure. I was interviewed by the FBI as well as our whole crew
and had to identify the 3 on our flight. They got them on the train system in Missouri. The FBI told us
the failure of the others was one fact. As well of an organized plan they had the one thing they did not take in
account was time change. Our President at the time Bill Compton was in Dallas when this announcement
of the first plane (We were being bought by American at this time). TWA was the first airline to demand all
departures and take-offs stop. And all land at the first opportunity. American followed with this. You met Bill and
his wife Dreana at our wedding. The information that Bill told us about that was mind boggling.


Bruce