G/day Mark   Thanks mate, Well i finally uninstalled the boxed and got the d/load version, i havent fully tested it yet, ive only made sure it installed ok, which it did. That problem with the soundis still there eg youve got to reload it to get the switch and apu sounds, is that normal for the 727 or have i done something wrong? TSS has a PW sound pack for fsx 757, but not the RR as i could see (from their site) .  they also have a 727 for fsx in the works. Changing the 757 sounds seems a bit more complicated for me , i think ill do some more reading before i attempt that. Oh i almost forgot , in the TSS folder there are settings for windows media player, i have not seen anywhere , anything about wmp regarding fsx, have you got settings for it? Im having problems with a swoshing sound when i turn either on the ground or in the air , shitting down the engines and restarting them seems to get rid of it , but i cant do exterior veiws, if i do i get the weird sounds again, i suspect wmp, ill tell you why, i usually have a lot os apps disabled at start up ( through soft ware explorer) those weird sounds hadnt been around for awhile, anyway i went into fsx andthe weird sounds were worst then ever so i had a look in s/w explorer and wmp was active , so i disabled it and it improved. So buggered if i know, maybe you can shed some light on it. Anyway Mark thanks again take care    Jeff