And you watch your mouth man ;) ;) Making Aussies sound smart, oooh boy!! ;D ;D I will tell you when I am old enough for a cigar too btw!! Although a Speights would be more kiwi 8-) 8-)!!

And PJ747, no contest. Lou, after 40 years on Boeing's would probably know that I would imagine ;D ;D??

;)
Joe :) :) :)