Hi Guys,

I just bought this fantastic product and I am very happy with it. Now there is one bothering issue which has been addressed several times in the forum that is hyper trimming. That in my opinion seriously degrades playability. It has been said that the issue was submitted to CaptainSim. Does anyone know if they have been working on it? Does anyone have a fix other than turning on autopilot and use its trimwheel?
Thanx so much!

Not sure if this is getting addressed on a patch. I would say the trim on the 707 is a bit more user friendly than the trim on the 727. On the 707, I usually get stabililized on my initial climb, then engage autopilot on control pitch trim with the autopilot pitch trim wheel. On final approach when I disconnect autopilot, a little pressure on the yoke usually gets me to my target descent rate.

Use the trim wheel in the VC, its less sensitive.

The only complete solution is to trim through a registered version of FSUIPC.  You can then specify the amount of trim for each button press.  The only downside is that the trim sound may get clipped a little depending how much you tone down the amount of trim per button press.

adam3,

I agree with David Zill the 707 is better than the 727, but I have found that just quick taps on my trim button works for me. If you engage the autopilot without altitude hold, it will trim the elevator for the current pitch attitude and then you can disconnect and hand fly again. Try it and see if that works for you. I think member CoolP has collected many of the gripes including the trim and CS is working on a fix.

BTW, the sound of the trim wheel in the 707 or 727 was VERY loud. We used to joke that the trim wheel was designed by the same engineer that designed the windshield wiper. The noise from the wiper halted all cockpit communications it was soooo loud, and did not do much to clear the windshield either!  :o

Lou

I trim my 707 the same as LOU. I "tap" the buttons assigned to trim up and trim down.

That said. Here is how I use it most of the time. When line up on the runway, I set the trim for takeoff. As soon as I have raised the landing gear after takeoff, I hit "Z" to activate the AP (this automatically applies Attitude Hold) and from then on I use the Trim Wheels on the AP to control my 707's attitude for the duration of the climb. I use the same method for descent until Approach and just prior to landing (usually @ DH of 200 feet) when I turn the AP OFF. She lands beautifully most times (depending on weather and such). It works perfectly fine for me using that method.

Mark

Here´s an alternative way to trim the A/C: http://code.google.com/p/fscode/wiki/RealTrim

Hi Guys,

Thank you for your great tips. I am glad to learn that CaptainSim is working on the trim fix.
Here is my nugget: I find using the keyboard keys to command the trim is a bit less sensitive that the joystick ones. The tapping rule applies there as well but it is a bit more "friendly" than the absolutly off joytick one.

Thanks again,
adam3

adam3 wrote on Feb 4^th, 2011 at 8:14am:

Hi Guys, I just bought this fantastic product and I am very happy with it. Now there is one bothering issue which has been addressed several times in the forum that is hyper trimming. That in my opinion seriously degrades playability. It has been said that the issue was submitted to CaptainSim. Does anyone know if they have been working on it? Does anyone have a fix other than turning on autopilot and use its trimwheel? Thanx so much!

I have a similar problem.When I engage the autopilot after stabilizing my climb the trim will go into basement and cannot be adjusted via the VC or the shortcut. This happens on turns also, extremely frustrating >:(

Merlin851526 wrote on Mar 30^th, 2014 at 12:46pm:

adam3 wrote on Feb 4th, 2011 at 8:14am: Hi Guys, I just bought this fantastic product and I am very happy with it. Now there is one bothering issue which has been addressed several times in the forum that is hyper trimming. That in my opinion seriously degrades playability. It has been said that the issue was submitted to CaptainSim. Does anyone know if they have been working on it? Does anyone have a fix other than turning on autopilot and use its trimwheel? Thanx so much! I have a similar problem.When I engage the autopilot after stabilizing my climb the trim will go into basement and cannot be adjusted via the VC or the shortcut. This happens on turns also, extremely frustrating >:(

In the 707 its difficult to achieve a stable vertical speed with the "Pilots stabiliser trim wheel" (Big wheel side of centre pedestal) . The small Trim Wheel  "potentiometers" on the Auto Pilot are good for fine tuning when in AP mode with Altitude hold off.

But once you achieve a stable climb/descent manually, if you select AP mode on and Alt Hold off (centre switch position) then you may fine control the vertical speed with these small Trim Wheel (potentiometers) .

I think what's required is a way of transferring the FSX key presses/joystick commands, to the small AP Trim Wheels (potentiometers). That way, fine tuning may be achieved without using the mouse to point, click and roll, which is cumbersome and unrealistic.

In any event once the AP is engaged from a stable climb/descent, there should be no extra elevator movement. The system should  settle at your current attitude.

The aircraft is really challenging and very rewarding to fly well, especially after flying something with "Vertical Speed" in front of you on the glare shield!   ::)

Cheers
David