I've been trying to get the radar system turned on...no success. Can anybody help me...appreciated. :'(

yes! see the picture
1:turn on this button
2:right/left click this button until you see the radar

if still no success, try installing FSUIPC4



Collin Biedenkapp

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All right except one thing: this product does not use FSUIPC at all.

really? NICE! One of the first planes to use NO FSUIPC at all. Keep up the good work. I wish our company products could even come close to competing with yours!

The 707 doesn't use FSUIPC either.

I find that the setting of the Brightness Knob (50) gives me a very nice clear, not to bright view on the EVS Monitor. I also find that the best quality image is by switching the Mode Selector Switch to MAP. I guess if you are using an LCD monitor, the angle (tilt) and the Picture settings will have an affect on what setting is best.

Mark

Hi Turbfandude,

I tried right/left clicking the button (B)...tuns the button left/right only and no radar. You mentioned step one, turn the button on...I don't see any way of turning the B button on...just controls right/left motion. I'm can't seem to locate the other button behind the seat. Am I missing something? I already have FSUIPC4 installed.  Thanks for the info...hope you have other ideas I could try.

try using the button labeled 1 in the pic on the copilots side then, they work together. Don't feel bad, I still can't find the transponder!

What are we supposed to be seeing through that "radar" anyway?
Is that the ground or straight ahead?

What use is it at 30,000ft

TurbofanDude wrote on Dec 14^th, 2010 at 4:43pm:

try using the button labeled 1 in the pic on the copilots side then, they work together. Don't feel bad, I still can't find the transponder!

The B-52 Transponder (yellow circle) is on the Pilots Side Panel. The green circles are for Mode 3/A (civilian) codes.

Mark

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THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE TRANSPONDER THING! I've been trying to find that for a week! It sure made flying on VATSIM kind of hard!
Collin

Hate bring it up but this is where a tutorial would come in great.

                        JeffG

jbntx wrote on Dec 14^th, 2010 at 8:13pm:

What are we supposed to be seeing through that "radar" anyway? Is that the ground or straight ahead? What use is it at 30,000ft

There sure is a use for the radar at 30,000ft.  I am currently going through CSO (navigator) school for the USAF.  We are learning how to use the radar to navigate, among other things.  You can use references from the radar, be it terrain, water or cities to help guide you on your route.  (DR Navigation) I am not familiar with the system on the B-52 sim, but I would imagine the real B-52 can use its radar to help rendevous with tankers as well as paint skin reflections on other aircraft.  As a side note, it would be awesome to use an INS system to cordinate with the currently installed radar.

Hey Supersonic1981,
I'm a 1970 vintage navigator on C-130s and KC-135s. We learned the ancient stuff such as celestial, Loran A, pressure differential, measuring drift angle and groundspeed using a downward-looking tube with crosshairs, Doppler and 1950s airborne radar. INS was only for MAC and GPS was an impossible dream. Does the AF still teach celestial navigation, or is it all radar/INS/GPS?  I hope DR is still the basis of navigation.

supersonic1981 wrote on Dec 16^th, 2010 at 3:31am:

jbntx wrote on Dec 14th, 2010 at 8:13pm: What are we supposed to be seeing through that "radar" anyway? Is that the ground or straight ahead? What use is it at 30,000ft There sure is a use for the radar at 30,000ft.  I am currently going through CSO (navigator) school for the USAF.  We are learning how to use the radar to navigate, among other things.  You can use references from the radar, be it terrain, water or cities to help guide you on your route.  (DR Navigation) I am not familiar with the system on the B-52 sim, but I would imagine the real B-52 can use its radar to help rendevous with tankers as well as paint skin reflections on other aircraft.  As a side note, it would be awesome to use an INS system to cordinate with the currently installed radar.

I was asking about the CS B-52 radar, not the real thing.

All I see is a terrain picture that doesn't match the actual terrain in front of the aircraft.

Is it functional or just for looks?

It certainly looks like the radar in mine displays the correct terrain in front of the plane.

Mark

@Trailboss:
Wow things certainly have changed.  We just hear stories about celestial nav, Doppler, etc.  The only instructors we have left that have done that sort of stuff are all O-5s.  They stopped teaching cellestial in the early 90s.  As for DR, it is very much still alive.  GPS is taught, but still carries a sort of stigmata due to its ability to be degraded.  There is a much bigger emphasis now on EWO and weapons systems now, as navs don't track to EWO, WSO or Panel Nav anymore.  I bet you have some cool stories!

@Jbntx,
The radar display shows the correct terrain in front of the aircraft on the CS B-52.  Its actually a good tool, (even on flight sim) for situational awareness as well as basic navigation. I can see both terrain (mountains, lakes, etc) as well as cultural (city) returns.  (For instance, I flew from Miami to Cuba in the CS B-52 without naviads, simply using the radar.)    If you plan on flying low levels this can prove helpful for not hitting cumulus granite (cloud obscured mountains).  Hope this helps.

Markoz wrote on Jan 11^th, 2011 at 4:00pm:

It certainly looks like the radar in mine displays the correct terrain in front of the plane. Mark

I'm missing something.

How do you tell if you're going to hit that "terrain"?

I've done tests coming from out over the ocean and approaching land at a very low altitude.  
I just don't see any benefit from the green picture of the terrain that I see.

The only user controls I've found are the on/off switch and the brightness control.  Is there something else?

Wouldn't a regular radar that shows weather and other aircraft be
more useful?

I haven't tested the CS B-52 radar at low altitude, but with a real radar you will have shadowing (Black areas showing no return) behind terrain higher than you.  If you see shadowing in front of you, and you continue on that course, you will hit the terrain.  I am not sure if the CS B-52 models this.  Also, real world ground mapping radars will paint both ground as well as air targets.  As a matter of fact you can use radar in IMC conditions to align yourself with a tanker.

 If the sim doesn't show shadowing, fly low level and refrence a chart for terrain altitudes.  You can then use the CS radar to scan for terrain features in your area.

I am pretty happy that CS took the time to put this feature in the sim.  While it would be pretty awesome to have more real world radar features, I am not sure how easy it would be (if even possible) to model them in FSX.  Also, I am not entirely certain most users would even care to use these features as it would require study time to take advantage of them.

In the image I have included in this post, I have put a red box around the TERRAIN DISPLAY CONTROL PANEL.
The green circle surrounds the switch to change between MAP and PEAK. I don't know what they mean or what they do, but I get the best results on MAP.
The yellow circle surrounds the RANGE knob. FSX seems to remember the last setting that it was set to before either shutting down FSX or switching aircraft. If you happened to mess with it and set it (and left it) to 5 miles, you are not going to see very far ahead. If, for example, when coming from out to sea towards land, I would set it at a minimum of 50 miles (further if I'm a long way away). As I get closer to land, I would reduce the range.
I reduce the range to suit what I am doing (I set it to 5 - 10 miles if landing in a mountainous area).

Hope this helps.

Mark

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Hi all,

Since yesterday owner of the buff and I like her very much  :) Wow: how sluggish in movements she is: at landings you have to point right in time and last minute adjustements are not easily made  ;)

Should be nice however if there were some more nav-aides integrated  :)
I saw in a real B52 video that in the radar, there were all kinds of presentations in it and I assume these are nav-aids.

May be the standard gps could be integrated in the radar?

Bye,

Willem

can not turn on

rador can not turn on.

Hi awd.

To turn the radar on, see the attached image:

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Hello everyone,
  The radar in the CS B-52 does work.   When you have the mode select switch in "PEAK"  at high altitudes it will look very much like "MAP" mode,  but at low level it is a whole different story.  Make sure you are in "PEAK",  and fly very low to the ground.  Any obstacle higher than you will show up in much brighter green,  and anything below you will be black or very dark green.   It works very well,  no matter what terrain mesh products you use.  What you see in front of you is what you are really flying over.   It is much like what the nav would see on his radar,  but not what the pilot and copilot would see.   They use a mode called "Profile Video"  which paints a jagged line across the screen at a set distance in front of the aircraft  showing the terrain features.  DBS has a profile radar for FS.  I don't have it,   but plan to get it some day and try to incorporate it into the CS B-52 panel.   It looks very much like what the real profile radar displays look like in a real BUFF.  Also,  the B-52s use three INS's for navigation,  and I am working on trying to integrate the Delco Carousel IV-A Inertial Navigation System Gauges into the plane.  I'll let you know what I work out.

jbntx wrote on Dec 14^th, 2010 at 8:13pm:

What are we supposed to be seeing through that "radar" anyway? Is that the ground or straight ahead? What use is it at 30,000ft

It is good when you fly at night in mountainous areas. But the only mountain the radar would really warn you about at that altitude is Mt. Everest (29,500ft) and K2 (27,000ft), mainly because it only measures things from a particular altitude down.  You can wee this as when you get lower, the terrain's 'peaks' will increase in size and brightness on the screen.

jbntx wrote on Jan 11^th, 2011 at 6:18pm:

Markoz wrote on Jan 11th, 2011 at 4:00pm: It certainly looks like the radar in mine displays the correct terrain in front of the plane. Mark I'm missing something. How do you tell if you're going to hit that "terrain"? I've done tests coming from out over the ocean and approaching land at a very low altitude.   I just don't see any benefit from the green picture of the terrain that I see. The only user controls I've found are the on/off switch and the brightness control.  Is there something else? Wouldn't a regular radar that shows weather and other aircraft be more useful?

As Mark quoted, there is a MAP mode and PEAK mode as well.

And to answer you're other question - I don't think weather radar was around at the time of the B-52 and as an authenticity feature, Captain Sim put in terrain radar as it was in service then. HOWEVER, if you buy the CS Weather Radar from the Captain Sim store, you can implement it on any 2D panel, like the B-52.

*Please someone help!!!*
I just bough the B-52 Driver yesterday but cannot get the terrain radar to work.  I've turned up the brightness and switched from peak to map as well as fiddles with the other knobs on the control module but to no success. I cannot open the B-52 radar help image so there may ne something there that I am missing? The aircraft works great other than this!

Somewhere to the left of the captain's toke ther are some push buttons, and one of them says "Power" as I recall - try that button