Thanks folks. I'm back where I started before "Driver" and flying the "Buff" along without a hitch. Thanks again to everyone for your help. One question to the folks at Captain Sim though and that is, if you are going to add tool tips to some buttons why not all? OOPS maybe that's not logical thinking because it might help the learning curb for an old guy like me. Forgive my little rant. Thanks again everyone, lol, bye.