Thanks for the help. I got the engines started but never got off the ground. I realized why I don't fly any airplanes with this 3D cockpit only. Plus I'm not tring to be a real pilot so I don't need to study hours before I can fly the thing. To much like work. I un-installed this airplane and went back to the buff model with my panel that I can fly with the time I have. The money lost on this is a lesson learned. Thanks again.