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Message started by Jack Vogel on Jun 15th, 2010 at 12:13am

Title: 763 with Rolls Royce
Post by Jack Vogel on Jun 15th, 2010 at 12:13am
I've had a couple of bizarre, and catastrophic, failures while at
cruise altitude in the BAW 763, which has the RR engines. The
only clue I can come up with is the N2 and N3 engine stages
(only the RR has 3 stages) ALWAYS go into the yellow when I
take off, and seem to stay that way thru much of climb. What I
was thinking was that this stress eventually caused an engine
failure but I'm not sure.

At the very least it seems like one should be able to keep every
thing in the white. Does anyone have any advise or help on that,
or just other experience with the RR model??

Thanks,

Jack

Title: Re: 763 with Rolls Royce
Post by mbucholski on Jun 15th, 2010 at 5:10am
I only fly GE, so I might not be very helpful. Seems like there's something wrong with the config. I experienced once an engine shutdown at cruise and it was caused probably by the FSInn controlled weather (the bug which makes TAT increase with altitude). I managed though to turn them on. Any messages on the EICAS? Maybe you should use derate?

Title: Re: 763 with Rolls Royce
Post by Markoz on Jun 15th, 2010 at 9:12am
In all honesty, I can't see why it would only happen to the 767-300 RR. In the aircraft.cfg file, the only difference between the 767-300 RR and the 767-300 GE or PW is the sound file (sound.rr) and the exterior model (model.rr5).

[fltsim.5] <--This is the 6th plane listed in the aircraft.cfg. all the rest are GE or PW
title=CS 767-300 Captain Paint5
sim=B767-300RR
model=rr5
<-- exterior model only. VC + Pax Cabin is the same for all of them (interior model is directed to model.ge5\cs763ge5_interior.mdl)
panel=
sound=RR
<-- the sound.RR is different to the PW and GE (sound.GE)
texture=british
kb_checklists=
kb_reference=
atc_id=G-BNWW
atc_airline=speed bird
atc_flight_number=763
atc_heavy=1
ui_manufacturer="Boeing"
ui_type="767-300 RR"
<--This just displays it in the aircraft list as a 767-300 RR so it does nothing really
ui_variation="British Airways"
ui_typerole="Commercial Airliner"
ui_createdby="Captain Sim"
description="767-300 Base Pack v1.4\n(c) 2009 Captain Sim www.captainsim.com"
ui_wglts=1


The highlighted lines are the only real differences with the GE and PW.
You say that you only fly the BWA 767-300 RR. But have you tried the same situation with PW and GE models to see if they do this too? It might be all your 767-300's.

Mark

Title: Re: 763 with Rolls Royce
Post by mbucholski on Jun 15th, 2010 at 1:30pm
Good point Mark. I haven't thought about that. ::)

Title: Re: 763 with Rolls Royce
Post by Jack Vogel on Jun 15th, 2010 at 8:48pm
AHH, interesting, I hadn't realized this. But then there is still a
difference in the panel, since we have an N2 and N3 stage
displayed, so I guess the question is why these go into yellow
when the other engines with only N1 and N2 do not.

I had just assumed this was unique to RR because I had done
plenty of flights in a Delta config (GE I believe) and not seen
this weird problem.

BTW, what actually happened was this: was cruising along
without any issue that I noticed, SUDDENLY the plane pitches
up and down a bunch, and then next thing I knew it was in
some catatrophic stall from hell that, try as I might,  I could
NOT get out of. Things happened so fast that I was not able
to completely diagnose the state of the plane, but I'm pretty
sure the engines had both failed.

The first night it happened I happened to have another USB
game controller connected to the PC and I thought it had
fallen due to my cat, but a night later the same thing happened
with only the SAITEK yoke, quad, and pedals on it.

I've flown a few more flights now and its not happened, so
I'm a bit unsure about what it really was... guess I'll wait
and collect more data if no one has any other response.


Title: Re: 763 with Rolls Royce
Post by Tim Capps on Jun 15th, 2010 at 9:39pm
Are you using any third-party weather?

Title: Re: 763 with Rolls Royce
Post by Jack Vogel on Jun 16th, 2010 at 5:44am

Tim Capps wrote on Jun 15th, 2010 at 9:39pm:
Are you using any third-party weather?


Yes, I have ASE with REX textures, also have registered fsuipc,
I went thru the whole problem of weather smoothing on the 747
a year and more ago, that does not give me a problem these
days with my setup.

Jack

Title: Re: 763 with Rolls Royce
Post by Tim Capps on Jun 16th, 2010 at 5:42pm
Just saying my airplanes fall out of the sky when I used REX, too.  They don't now that I stopped using it, so I wondered.

Title: Re: 763 with Rolls Royce
Post by Markoz on Jun 16th, 2010 at 11:31pm

Tim Capps wrote on Jun 16th, 2010 at 5:42pm:
Just saying my airplanes fall out of the sky when I used REX, too.  They don't now that I stopped using it, so I wondered.

I found that REX hit my frame rates way too hard, but I don't ever recall having a problem with any of my Captain Sim planes autopilot. I use ASE too and, once again, I haven't had any problems with my CS planes autopilot (yet). I did at one stage use both REX and ASA together, but never with REX and ASE, no problems there either.

Mark

Title: Re: 763 with Rolls Royce
Post by Tim Capps on Jun 17th, 2010 at 1:01am
Yeah, I'm not busting REX, because I'm the only one who had any problems with it, apparently.  It's beautiful, but I remain suspicious.

Title: Re: 763 with Rolls Royce
Post by audiohavoc on Jun 17th, 2010 at 2:38pm

Tim Capps wrote on Jun 17th, 2010 at 1:01am:
Yeah, I'm not busting REX, because I'm the only one who had any problems with it, apparently.  It's beautiful, but I remain suspicious.


You can use REX textures without using the weather engine, all you have to do is close the weather engine window.

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