wow!!!! someone answered me!!!..someone cares  :-* :-* gosh o'gee!!.....as his eyes fill with tears.......anyways, thank you!....using fsx in vista....yes i know where it is installed, but i was hoping to see the files before they install in fsx, like the panel folder.gauges folder, effects folder..etc etc....not that it would help me necessarily, but i thought i just might catch something which is responsible for my c130 crashing to desktop....thanks, vic