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Message started by Tiltman on Jan 7th, 2009 at 10:04pm

Title: No ADF, NAV (VHF), COM or AP
Post by Tiltman on Jan 7th, 2009 at 10:04pm
Hi all;

(Spec: FSX-SP2, XP-SP3, C130X 1.3)

When I start a flight with the C-130 everything works ok. Then, after about 15 to 20 mins, the VHF equpment (NAV, COM, ADF) and AP stops working.

- The COM is on (current freq show in display) but I can't contact ATC.
- Not possible to change frequency on the NAV's or ADF.
- AP dead, can't even use power button.

When i click buttons in the panels (VHF/AP) the sound works but no reaction on the instruments.

I start a flight without a flightplan, take off, get to a decent height and then just fly straight ahead for about 15 to 20 minutes before the equipment fails. The first 10 mins of the flight everything (NAV, COM, AP) works as expected, then it suddenly stop working.

Any ideas ?

Title: Re: No ADF, NAV (VHF), COM or AP
Post by wulfgar_ on Jan 15th, 2009 at 10:34pm
I have the same problem tiltman. No reaction from CS. Bad luck for us
Don't hesitate to contact me via PM.Maybe we can find together something wrong.

To add I have FSUIPC registered and infinite battery set.So this problem should never happen (well in theory)
regards
Yves

Title: Re: No ADF, NAV (VHF), COM or AP
Post by Tiltman on Jan 22nd, 2009 at 8:28am

wulfgar_ wrote on Jan 15th, 2009 at 10:34pm:
I have the same problem tiltman. No reaction from CS. Bad luck for us
...


Yes, I did make a KB of this and CS staff just returned me a link on how to reinstall... but I won't. The thing is I'm going to set up a new PC soon so I've decided not to put too much work into the current installation.

Anyway, to "fix it" I just save the flight then load it again. Not a solution but a workaround for me until the new rig is up.

Title: Re: No ADF, NAV (VHF), COM or AP
Post by remy12 on Sep 11th, 2009 at 7:01pm
I have exactly the same problem... The reinstallation changed nothing. but for me the problem start when the engines are on...

Title: Re: No ADF, NAV (VHF), COM or AP
Post by seaniam81 on Sep 23rd, 2009 at 6:47am
Hey guys I'm getting this too. And whats worse the problem has moved into my CS 727 and 757. Oh and dont forget the GPS goes out too

Title: Re: No ADF, NAV (VHF), COM or AP
Post by Merida72 on Sep 23rd, 2009 at 5:16pm
HI ALL

I also have the same and the same problem.

Title: Re: No ADF, NAV (VHF), COM or AP
Post by Captain Sim 2 on Sep 24th, 2009 at 6:51am
Thank you for your input but this forum is not for technical support.
If you want your report to be forwarded to development team for consideration please check-in to Your Profile then click Product Name > Customer Support > to submit a Ticket. Thank you for cooperation.

Title: Re: No ADF, NAV (VHF), COM or AP
Post by seaniam81 on Sep 27th, 2009 at 5:13am
Has anybody heard anything from CS on this?

Title: Re: No ADF, NAV (VHF), COM or AP
Post by FredZSJIZ on Sep 27th, 2009 at 6:20am
Hi all, try to submit new ticket for support from CS...

Title: Re: No ADF, NAV (VHF), COM or AP
Post by Merida72 on Sep 27th, 2009 at 9:33am
I opened one but I'm still waiting for the response...

Title: Re: No ADF, NAV (VHF), COM or AP
Post by seaniam81 on Sep 27th, 2009 at 1:52pm
I was looking around in the aircraft.cfg file. to see if maybe when i added a new paint job it messed something up. As far as i could tell nothing wrong. But I did notice something. Our problem isn't an avionics bus power problem. The AP isn't even on the avionics bus. I'm wondering if this is a problem between CS and FSUIPC? I'm going to try an earler version of FSUIPC tonight.

Title: Re: No ADF, NAV (VHF), COM or AP
Post by Merida72 on Sep 27th, 2009 at 2:16pm
I never thought, I'll try too

Title: Re: No ADF, NAV (VHF), COM or AP
Post by Merida72 on Sep 27th, 2009 at 2:18pm
But our friend CS do you think? Manage to solve them the problem so that we can fly our Hercules?

Title: Re: No ADF, NAV (VHF), COM or AP
Post by Hawkwind on Sep 29th, 2009 at 1:26pm

seaniam81 wrote on Sep 27th, 2009 at 1:52pm:
I was looking around in the aircraft.cfg file. to see if maybe when i added a new paint job it messed something up. As far as i could tell nothing wrong. But I did notice something. Our problem isn't an avionics bus power problem. The AP isn't even on the avionics bus. I'm wondering if this is a problem between CS and FSUIPC? I'm going to try an earler version of FSUIPC tonight.


Can't see it being FSUIPC4 as I have this installed and updated about 4 times now with no issues as you describe. On completing startup of all engines, have you flicked all the relevant switches to where they should be??

Regards,

James.

Title: Re: No ADF, NAV (VHF), COM or AP
Post by seaniam81 on Sep 30th, 2009 at 4:40am
Yes all the switches are where they should be. And it's just the Com, ADF, NAV, AP, and GPS are loosing power. Every other system that needs power is continuing to stay on. And as i was saying the AP isn't even on the Avionics bus.

Title: Re: No ADF, NAV (VHF), COM or AP
Post by Hawkwind on Sep 30th, 2009 at 8:11am
Don't know if you guy's have tried this but it's worth the shot at it.

Start FSX and then select the Cessna 172, select the airport and parking position you would have selected for your c-130. Set time and season etcetera and continue to load FSX.

Once up and running turn off the engine and all lights and avionics switch. Ensure that it is a complete cold and dark cockpit.

Select your c-130 and then save the flight. Now go through your startup sequence and see if you are able to complete the flight without loosing any power to any of your systems.

Regards,

James.

Title: Re: No ADF, NAV (VHF), COM or AP
Post by Merida72 on Oct 1st, 2009 at 5:04pm
Any news?  :-/  :-/

Because I haven't yet fix the problem and I can't fly with my Hercules.  :'(  :'(  :'(

Title: Re: No ADF, NAV (VHF), COM or AP
Post by Merida72 on Oct 3rd, 2009 at 4:17pm
please please please

my ticket is still pending!

Mr. CS help me! :-[

Title: Re: No ADF, NAV (VHF), COM or AP
Post by bkshn on Jan 2nd, 2010 at 6:18am
I ran into this too - it seems that the avionics will work for about the first five minutes - and then they just fade out even if there is external power.  I *think* this may have something to do with the "infinite battery life" option setting but don't quote me on that.

The only thing I can do is map a button or key to "Avionics on/off."  Once the engines are started and generators going, I flip the switch and everything works.  (An easy way to check this is to bring up the GPS - if it is "black" then you have no avionics).

No matter how hard I've tried, I cannot keep the avionics on on external power/battery alone for very long without losing them.  They won't stay on unless the generators are running.

This is probably something buried deep in the arcana of the FSX SDK - ya just have to work around it.

Brian

Title: Re: No ADF, NAV (VHF), COM or AP
Post by civil68 on Jan 9th, 2010 at 4:10pm
I had the same problem 'til I searched the dim recesses of my brain from about 40 years ago.  Is the AC Essential bus powered (upper Engineer's panel) and the Flight Director's switch set to normal (AP Panel)?  That should at least solve the power to AP issue.

Title: Radios working, then not
Post by regis902 on Jan 17th, 2010 at 11:44pm
Hello, I successfully started up my aircraft, and the radios wouldn't work.  The COM master switches were on, I could see ter frequencies they were dialed to, but I could not change the frequencies or contact atc.

Reading another post in the forum, I assigned a key combination (ctrl-shift-a) to the avionics master switch.  When I did this my radios started working again.  However, about 5 minutes later just before I took the runway for take-off, they stopped working again.  Same as before, the master switches are on, I can see the frequencies, but I can't contact ATC or change the frequencies.  

Before starting the aircraft, I loaded the default C172 and turned off engines, avionics, and battery, then loaded the C-130.

Yesterday, I did a flight where I used ctrl-e to start the engines and didn't have the radio problem.

Thanks for any help.

Title: Re: Radios working, then not
Post by Markoz on Jan 18th, 2010 at 1:12am
Two things that can fix this.

First. Create a default C172 flight with everything off except the Avionics Master switch.

Second. Create a keyboard combination for the Avionics Master switch. I use the combination CTRL+SHIFT+A for mine.

I have actually done both of these. But on some planes I want the Avionics Master switch left off.

Also. Pressing CTRL+E (default engine start) also turns on the Avionics Master switch which is why you didn't have the problem when you started it that way.

Hope this helps.

Mark

Title: Re: No ADF, NAV (VHF), COM or AP
Post by Dax on Jan 19th, 2010 at 8:27am
Try assigning a key stroke to the "Avionics Master".  You can toggle the power to the Avionics.  When it drops out, toggle on.  Then they should stay on.

Dave

Title: Re: No ADF, NAV (VHF), COM or AP
Post by dissy on Jan 22nd, 2010 at 4:10am
I have the same problem but in my case it is only caused when I open a window that causes the screen to re-write. the culprits seem to be any settings window, open the map, aircraft fuel and payload.

I can restore power to avionics using the avionics master key (Ctrl+Shift+A) which I have assigned.

The same problem/solution also applies for the B727.

Ian

Title: Re: No ADF, NAV (VHF), COM or AP
Post by Raul on Nov 3rd, 2011 at 4:25am
Hi, y have the same problem but with refreshing avionics nothing happens, any news? :(

Title: Re: No ADF, NAV (VHF), COM or AP
Post by expat on Jan 5th, 2012 at 4:25pm
Same problem here. This plane has pretty much sat in my hangar since buying it a few years ago.  Reason has been reliability, namely it won't start, but then it will start but there is no way to tell why it did.  Would be good if CS had an answer on this as I am far from alone - i.e. we DO all follow the manual and the tutorials (which are very clearly written) but cold & dark starts continue to be hit or miss.

Got her out yesterday for the first time in ages and managed this time to start her up (odd numbered day of the week perhaps) took off and then had these same avionics failures.  I already have the default C172 with everything off except for avionics set as the default flight and also have a key mapped for master avionics.

Why can't CS even post here to say they have these tickets and are working on it?  With so many other payware aircraft these things often get quickly gang tackled by this kind of group discussion on a forum by the devs and customers together.  Results in nice warm fuzzy feelings all around and one would expect customer goodwill and future sales.  Don't get me wrong, I have the Herc, the 727 and 707 and think they are amongst the best payware, inside and out.  It's just that there is a kind of odd robotic like manner here, not wanting to communicate easily like normal adults do and should. ;)

Title: Re: No ADF, NAV (VHF), COM or AP
Post by expat on Jan 10th, 2012 at 9:05am
May be a continuing case of "not knowing what I am doing right",  but have had more left seat time in the CS-130 in the last few days than at any time since buying her three years ago. Seems to be working much better.   Even got her started 100% from the VC which was great.  Terrrific aircraft.

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