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Message started by starseed on Sep 26th, 2023 at 8:27pm

Title: New 717-200 First Flight
Post by starseed on Sep 26th, 2023 at 8:27pm
After a flight or two I found that the B717 flys relatively well. In-puting Simbrief flight plans through the MSFS load tab works well also. Texture are good we just need more like American and Hawaiian ect.

Title: Re: New 717-200 First Flight
Post by Darkside on Sep 26th, 2023 at 10:52pm
Great to hear! I wonder if we will see it this week on xbox
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Title: Re: New 717-200 First Flight
Post by Cng757 on Sep 26th, 2023 at 10:53pm
It's okay, very cheap A320neo skin. Having frustration with the animation panel (R-alt + click not doing it). Flight dynamics seem a little off, but also the jetway not being aligned is a downer.

https://i.ibb.co/hMN121P/Screenshot-3608.png

Title: Re: New 717-200 First Flight
Post by Cng757 on Sep 26th, 2023 at 10:54pm
Also would like the ability to travel around the cabin to set some wingviews, which are nonexistent.

Title: Re: New 717-200 First Flight
Post by Erik Sala on Sep 26th, 2023 at 11:06pm
Anyone else having autopilot issues? After activating the aircraft, it just keeps spinning.... plus animation panel doesn't work

Title: Re: New 717-200 First Flight
Post by Avioman on Sep 27th, 2023 at 4:40am
Anyone has the issue where when starting from Cold & Dark at the gate, after powering up the AC the MFDs do not come alive? I tried also to increase the brightness but nothing. Same with the Autopilot panel. Nothing in the dials. Also missing the yoke. If I start the flight inflight or at the runways with engines running the MFDs are on. Thanks

Title: Re: New 717-200 First Flight
Post by EY on Sep 27th, 2023 at 1:41pm

starseed wrote on Sep 26th, 2023 at 8:27pm:
After a flight or two I found that the B717 flys relatively well. In-puting Simbrief flight plans through the MSFS load tab works well also. Texture are good we just need more like American and Hawaiian ect.


Thanks for feedback, we are currently working on increasing the amount of liveries availability.

Title: Re: New 717-200 First Flight
Post by EY on Sep 27th, 2023 at 1:42pm

Darkside wrote on Sep 26th, 2023 at 10:52pm:
Great to hear! I wonder if we will see it this week on xbox


Unfortunately, we do not know exact waiting time for the 717 before it gets on the market. We are all set for a launch, but Microsoft rules and check ups are causing delays.


Title: Re: New 717-200 First Flight
Post by EY on Sep 27th, 2023 at 1:44pm

Cng757 wrote on Sep 26th, 2023 at 10:54pm:
Also would like the ability to travel around the cabin to set some wingviews, which are nonexistent.


It is in our agenda.

Title: Re: New 717-200 First Flight
Post by EY on Sep 27th, 2023 at 1:46pm

Erik Sala wrote on Sep 26th, 2023 at 11:06pm:
Anyone else having autopilot issues? After activating the aircraft, it just keeps spinning.... plus animation panel doesn't work


Can you describe the issue with A/P in more details?

Title: Re: New 717-200 First Flight
Post by EY on Sep 27th, 2023 at 1:57pm

Cng757 wrote on Sep 26th, 2023 at 10:53pm:
Having frustration with the animation panel (R-alt + click not doing it)


Hold right Alt on your keyboard and left-click on the screen - it will pop-up. You can control the animations. Unfortunately, if you switch to the external view or drone camera, you cannot click, as it only works when you’re in the cockpit.

Title: Re: New 717-200 First Flight
Post by starseed on Sep 27th, 2023 at 3:06pm

Cng757 wrote on Sep 26th, 2023 at 10:54pm:
set some wingviews

Wing views are EZ. Just go to the aircraft cfg.file named "cameras"scroll down and find this line
InitialXyz = -0.045, 0.7, -2.5
change it to
InitialXyz = -10.045, 0.7, -2.5 that will put you outside the aircraft when you load in ,then move to the location you desire save your views. Then go back to "cameras" and return the Xyz line back to the original state. thats it!

Title: Re: New 717-200 First Flight
Post by starseed on Sep 27th, 2023 at 3:18pm

EY wrote on Sep 27th, 2023 at 1:57pm:
Hold right Alt on your keyboard and left-click on the screen


I have tried this several times in the cockpit and can not get the panel to show.Is there a click spot, What am I missing ?

Title: Re: New 717-200 First Flight
Post by Cng757 on Sep 27th, 2023 at 3:39pm

starseed wrote on Sep 27th, 2023 at 3:06pm:

Cng757 wrote on Sep 26th, 2023 at 10:54pm:
set some wingviews

Wing views are EZ. Just go to the aircraft cfg.file named "cameras"scroll down and find this line
InitialXyz = -0.045, 0.7, -2.5
change it to
InitialXyz = -10.045, 0.7, -2.5 that will put you outside the aircraft when you load in ,then move to the location you desire save your views. Then go back to "cameras" and return the Xyz line back to the original state. thats it!


Yup, got that nailed down.

Title: Re: New 717-200 First Flight
Post by Lassao on Sep 27th, 2023 at 4:27pm
Bonjour, Les cadrans MFD pour le plan de vol ne s'allument pas, j'ai tout essayé, rien a faire ! Il n 'y a que quand je démarre MSFS 2020 avec l 'avion sur la piste que tout s'allume.
Quelqu'un connait il la solution pour résoudre ce problème ou est ce un bug?
Merci d'avance
Lassao

Title: Re: New 717-200 First Flight
Post by Lassao on Sep 27th, 2023 at 4:33pm
Hello, The MFD dials for the flight plan do not light up, I tried everything, nothing happened! It's only when I start MSFS 2020 with the plane on the runway that everything turns on.
Does anyone know the solution to resolve this problem or is it a bug?
Thanks in advance
Lassao

Title: Re: New 717-200 First Flight
Post by EY on Sep 27th, 2023 at 5:17pm

Lassao wrote on Sep 27th, 2023 at 4:33pm:
Hello, The MFD dials for the flight plan do not light up, I tried everything, nothing happened! It's only when I start MSFS 2020 with the plane on the runway that everything turns on.
Does anyone know the solution to resolve this problem or is it a bug?
Thanks in advance
Lassao


We'll check it soon, thanks!

Title: Re: New 717-200 First Flight
Post by wcs3 on Sep 27th, 2023 at 7:45pm

Cng757 wrote on Sep 26th, 2023 at 10:53pm:
but also the jetway not being aligned is a downer


Ditto on the doorpoint position for jetways.  Hopefully an easy edit.

Title: Re: New 717-200 First Flight
Post by Cng757 on Sep 27th, 2023 at 9:57pm
Also since this addon is based on the A320neo the auto trim system makes the stabilizer look ridiculous, this was at -1500/fpm at 280kts and it's acting like I'm about to stall.

https://i.ibb.co/mGLG9z9/Screenshot-3626.png

Title: Re: New 717-200 First Flight
Post by Erik Sala on Sep 28th, 2023 at 3:25am

EY wrote on Sep 27th, 2023 at 1:46pm:

Erik Sala wrote on Sep 26th, 2023 at 11:06pm:
Anyone else having autopilot issues? After activating the aircraft, it just keeps spinning.... plus animation panel doesn't work


Can you describe the issue with A/P in more details?


I solved the problem with AP by resetting the flight... Maybe it was something with the joystick here...
Just for feedback, the aircraft trim has shown very unrealistic values ​​and behaviors.
Would you have a roadmap of what to expect in terms of upgrades and progress for the aircraft? Can we expect more original PFDs etc? The work with the aircraft modeling is very well done... we just need more immersion in these systems.

Title: Re: New 717-200 First Flight
Post by waeln on Sep 28th, 2023 at 3:01pm
MFDs do not come alive after powering up?  Same with the Autopilot panel. Nothing in the dials. Also missing the yoke.
How do we open doors and more?

Title: Re: New 717-200 First Flight
Post by SeanTK on Sep 28th, 2023 at 6:20pm

waeln wrote on Sep 28th, 2023 at 3:01pm:
MFDs do not come alive after powering up?  Same with the Autopilot panel. Nothing in the dials. Also missing the yoke.
How do we open doors and more?


Regarding Yoke see the other post in this subforum. There is a clickspot to use, but it will be visible by default following the next update.


Title: Re: New 717-200 First Flight
Post by Editer on Sep 28th, 2023 at 8:54pm
Disappointed to hear the default systems are from the A320 Neo, which isn't going to be much like what you find in a 717.

For those who have this, does it feel different than the Neo? I wonder how much the flight model is like an actual 717. The promo page making absolutely zero mention of the flight model does not install hope in me here.

I'm not looking for (no do I even want!) Fenix level of detail/systems here. But I'd like it to fly like an actual 717, and have systems that are reasonably close to the real plane's.

Title: Re: New 717-200 First Flight
Post by Cng757 on Sep 28th, 2023 at 9:56pm

Editer wrote on Sep 28th, 2023 at 8:54pm:
Disappointed to hear the default systems are from the A320 Neo, which isn't going to be much like what you find in a 717.

For those who have this, does it feel different than the Neo? I wonder how much the flight model is like an actual 717. The promo page making absolutely zero mention of the flight model does not install hope in me here.

I'm not looking for (no do I even want!) Fenix level of detail/systems here. But I'd like it to fly like an actual 717, and have systems that are reasonably close to the real plane's.


Yeah it has the fly-by-wire of the dafault which is frustrating because the trim is automatic and creates some frustration. Other than that it FEELS like a 717 so there's that.

Title: Re: New 717-200 First Flight
Post by Cng757 on Sep 29th, 2023 at 3:53am

EY wrote on Sep 27th, 2023 at 1:57pm:

Cng757 wrote on Sep 26th, 2023 at 10:53pm:
Having frustration with the animation panel (R-alt + click not doing it)


Hold right Alt on your keyboard and left-click on the screen - it will pop-up. You can control the animations. Unfortunately, if you switch to the external view or drone camera, you cannot click, as it only works when you’re in the cockpit.


The part you forgot to mention was the clickspots were right of the text! So to use the animations you click where my arrow is!
https://i.ibb.co/pvY0TnV/Screenshot-3654.png

Title: Re: New 717-200 First Flight
Post by predator on Sep 29th, 2023 at 5:56pm
I'm guessing you will NOT be providing paintkits as always right?

Title: Re: New 717-200 First Flight
Post by Markoz on Sep 30th, 2023 at 3:10am

waeln wrote on Sep 28th, 2023 at 3:01pm:
MFDs do not come alive after powering up?  Same with the Autopilot panel. Nothing in the dials.

Okay. I finally found out how to fix this (for PC). The key assigned to turn on  the Avionics Master Switch is the Page Up key. I don't remember setting this key to that, but at least I have it there. Pressing the Page Up key turned my Avionics On, so now the MFD and Autopilot are visible.

To find this setting, I went to Controls > Keyboard > then searched for Avionics and came up with that result. For Xbox, you probably need to search for Avionics and set a button for it (set it temporarily I guess then reset the said button to its former setting (I'm not a Console player so I can't help much on)).

Title: Re: New 717-200 First Flight
Post by EY on Sep 30th, 2023 at 9:04pm
Thank you Mark! Will be fixed in upcoming update

Title: Re: New 717-200 First Flight
Post by Rudolf on Oct 7th, 2023 at 6:21am
make my own little Updates.... ;)
vlcsnap-2023-10-07-08h16m46s137.jpg ( 79 KB | 167 Downloads )

Title: Re: New 717-200 First Flight
Post by Rudolf on Oct 7th, 2023 at 8:55am
another Bug...if you try to Start the APU from the Pilot-View...it dosent work....from the Overheadpanel it works...

Title: Re: New 717-200 First Flight
Post by Rudolf on Oct 7th, 2023 at 9:01am
Hello to all employees of Captain Sim.....please make a Video-Tutorial....for Cold & Dark starting the Machine and all Features.....There is No Manual, no Video....come on ....its simple for you !!!!!!

Title: Re: New 717-200 First Flight
Post by coolgatz on Oct 9th, 2023 at 12:52am
There seems to be a large amount of bugs, some minor and some major like the jetway connection point being to high. I HOPE they fix these issues soon. (AKA Will there be a update fixing them all soon? It has been kind of awhile since release)

Title: Re: New 717-200 First Flight
Post by Rudolf on Oct 9th, 2023 at 7:39am
added Buttons: APU and MENU
B717_1.jpg ( 118 KB | 155 Downloads )

Title: Re: New 717-200 First Flight
Post by Rudolf on Oct 9th, 2023 at 7:41am
change color of switches: to Black
B717_2.jpg ( 77 KB | 149 Downloads )

Title: Re: New 717-200 First Flight
Post by Rudolf on Oct 9th, 2023 at 7:42am
added Button LOGO
B717_3.jpg ( 77 KB | 150 Downloads )

Title: Re: New 717-200 First Flight
Post by Rudolf on Oct 9th, 2023 at 7:42am
Lufthansa-Liverie....
B717_4.jpg ( 175 KB | 153 Downloads )

Title: Re: New 717-200 First Flight
Post by Rudolf on Oct 9th, 2023 at 8:08am
Sorry.... my mistake...it works

Title: Re: New 717-200 First Flight
Post by EY on Oct 13th, 2023 at 4:47pm

Cng757 wrote on Sep 27th, 2023 at 3:39pm:

starseed wrote on Sep 27th, 2023 at 3:06pm:

Cng757 wrote on Sep 26th, 2023 at 10:54pm:
set some wingviews

Wing views are EZ. Just go to the aircraft cfg.file named "cameras"scroll down and find this line
InitialXyz = -0.045, 0.7, -2.5
change it to
InitialXyz = -10.045, 0.7, -2.5 that will put you outside the aircraft when you load in ,then move to the location you desire save your views. Then go back to "cameras" and return the Xyz line back to the original state. thats it!


Yup, got that nailed down.


UPDATE 1.001

Title: Re: New 717-200 First Flight
Post by EY on Oct 13th, 2023 at 5:02pm

coolgatz wrote on Oct 9th, 2023 at 12:52am:
There seems to be a large amount of bugs, some minor and some major like the jetway connection point being to high. I HOPE they fix these issues soon. (AKA Will there be a update fixing them all soon? It has been kind of awhile since release)


UPDATE 1.003
UPDATE 1.004

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