In an effort to improve realism and immersion I have ordered this Nvidia vision kit to add to my sim.
Has anyone got any experience with Nvidia 3D and the result ?
Nvidia claims excellent result !

I may have to upgrade my display to 3D ( replace )   ::)
I am also limited to 24" because my sim is a self contained unit, and I have to be able to move it from room to room if need be. 32" wide.  8-)

Raymond   Boeing or nothing
KFLL  South Florida

I don't have these, but have thought about it, so I am very interested to hear your results Raymond. ;)

Too bad you are limited to such a small display (says me who has a 24" HDMI monitor)!

Simulators (and pilots) need peripheral vision more than anything else.

3D I don't think will do anything for FSX.
I certainly hope you get the experience you're after though.

*Remember that pilot who dead sticked a 737-300 onto a NASA levy bank?
He only had one eye, that shows how much we use depth perception.

Cappy wrote on Oct 17^th, 2013 at 2:58am:

*Remember that pilot who dead sticked a 737-300 onto a NASA levy bank?

I watched that on National Geographic - Air Crash Investigation last night! :D ;D

Cappy, keep an eye opened, I will report on this.
Depth perception is a step forward from a flat screen!

Nasa at Cap Canaveral has a giant runway that was used to land the space shuttle. How could this guy miss that !  To locate it , close by, there is one of the biggest building in the world, where they assembled
the rocket ships !!!

Raymond   Boeing or nothing
KFLL  South Florida

Mark I missed this one.

Years ago when canada switched from british measures to metric.
An air Canada pilot on a B767-200 got his fuel loaded in lbs, he though it was kg.

Half way to destination, he ran out of fuel at FL400 around Winnipeg Man,  being a former Air Force pilot, he remembered an old training
field now deserted.called Gimli  He glided his plane there and landed succesfully.
Air Canada fired the pilot. The Canadian Gvt gave him the highest decoration for saving his pax.

Raymond    Boeing or nothing
KFLL  South Florida

Blover wrote on Oct 17^th, 2013 at 5:08am:

Years ago when canada switched from british measures to metric. An air Canada pilot on a B767-200 got his fuel loaded in lbs, he though it was kg. Half way to destination, he ran out of fuel at FL400 around Winnipeg Man,  being a former Air Force pilot, he remembered an old training field now deserted.called Gimli  He glided his plane there and landed succesfully. Air Canada fired the pilot. The Canadian Gvt gave him the highest decoration for saving his pax.

I've also seen that one on National Geographic - Air Crash Investigation. The last time being about a month or so ago.

National Geographic runs 2 episodes of Air Crash Investigation a night, from Monday to Friday. So I get to watch them a lot. ;D

I remember this incident live, a long time ago.

They made a movie out of that. I think called  " Gimli Glider "
There was some damage to the plane, but it took off two days later

Same here for the Air Crashes Investigations.

Air accidents are never one issue, more like a chain of issues !

As a Private Pilot in GA, I can say that depth perception is vital to the operation of small aircrafts, but of course you need the periphery also ,it is more like the total situation assessment. You need both.

I also wish I had a red Ferrari conv in my driveway !!!!!!
Dream and reality   ::)

Raymond   Boeing or nothing
KFLL   South Florida

Good and bad news,
I received my Nvidia 3d vision kit today !

there is not much documentation with this.
I took the quick start guide - the only guide !
and ran the CD - software installation and manuals.

After a number of pages of Nvidia promotion I got the result
about the system requirements.
All green lights except my display. It carried a big X over it.
End of installation. Then a list of displays that do 3d.

The lenses are in a teint of light grey, carry a battery, and respond to an IR emitter on top of my sim. All this driven by Nvidia, it is called:  active shutter glasses.

My next step is pretty clear !  ;D

There is also compatibility to a number of projectors
this is not far from peripheral vision on a nice 160 degrees curve set up.
Who knows   :o

Raymond   Boeing or nothing
KFLL  South Florida

I take it you need to buy a monitor that is compatible with the Nvidia 3D Vision? :(

Wouldn't they, shouldn't they, have a list of compatible monitors on their website? :-? >:(

They call these " Supported 3D ready displays"

I never went to their website !!  :-/

There are many options, but it has to fit my sim, 24", I have looked at 27" but it would be very tight, I have my switch panel, the yoke and two speakers under the display and then the pedal well. In my sitting position. my eyes are at the middle of the display, my knees are bent up so I can rest my forearms, and I can apply toe brake easily because I sit close to the front panel.

Beyond 3D, I am planning a major upgrade  ;D  in the planning stage yet.

Raymond   Boeing or nothing
KFLL  South florida

Blover wrote on Oct 19^th, 2013 at 2:34am:

I never went to their website !!  :-/

OUCH! :(

There was no need. Nvidia installed two programs in my computer.
One is called Nvidia control panel. you should have that also.
The second one is called Nvidia GE Force experience.
The "My rig " option lists me with two GPU, which I have . I never used the second one, but I found a use for it- that is the future !
Followed by a description of my system.

One thing I know for sure, the CS planes like my "rig"   ;D

Raymond   Boeing or nothing
KFLL    South Florida

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There was no need. Nvidia installed two programs in my computer. One is called Nvidia control panel. you should have that also.

Yep. It installs with the Nvidia Drivers. ;)


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The second one is called Nvidia GE Force experience.

I had this installed, but I don't like it and uninstalled it! :D


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The "My rig " option lists me with two GPU, which I have . I never used the second one, but I found a use for it- that is the future ! Followed by a description of my system.

I have always felt that CS products have been happy with my "rigs" - originally a Core 2 Duo Q9550, then my i7 870, and now this one. FSX is an absolute mess on my PC at the moment, so I desperately need to uninstall every thing, then reinstall it all again (headache material). I hope to be getting my mew 4GB GTX770 OC on Monday, so I plan to do it all after I get that.

I had a bit of drama removing Windows 8.1 Preview, then reinstalling Windows 8 Pro 64bit, followed by 1 gig of updates THEN upgrading to Windows 8.1 Pro 64bit. I still have to install FSX and all my CS aircraft in that too now. And on top of all that, I now have to build a computer for a friend AND upgrade my wife's computer as well. After that, my daughter is going to get the old components from my wife's current computer. So I really have a lot on my plate at the moment. At least it should keep me out of trouble for a while. ;D

Wow ! you are a busy guy !

I finished shpping and I bought a 3D display  24"
I ended up shoosing and Asus VG248Qe
The specs exceed the requirements of Nvidia .
The price was right - under 300.00 shipping included.

In the larger sizes, the prices were very steep  a 27 was 700.00 up to about 2600, in the 45 inches..

I should get it thursday!
In the mean time, I charged the battery in the glasses. USB in the computer. 40 hrs of use, fully charged.

Raymond    Boeing or nothing
KFLL    South Florida

It gets worse! I got another call yesterday, and someone else needs a computer fixed (no longer starting, but as yet, not sure if it's a BSOD (WinXP Pro)). I would like to do his before I do my wife and daughters, but that would almost be suicidal! My wife is complaining that I am already taking too long to do it.

Oh well, "when it rains, it pours!" HAHAHAHAHA ;D ;D ;D

I received my monitor today, one day early !
It is not a large monitor, but it has impressive cpecs.
1 ms response time, 144 hz refresh rate, led backlite.
On the cartoon   "Nvidia  3D vision ready"

Out of the box, I have a few problems,
I cannot swap this for my Acer 24" and fly.
The view area of the new one 16 X 9, and it is 1 3/4" wider than the old one. The low end of the Acer was in a little V shape, new one straight and not as high. The base is higher and bigger in front.

My sim is a self contained unit. The monitor shows through a window in the front panel. I guess I will need my tools to adjust that window'  
To finish the opening clean, I installed some aluminum strips , now they wont fit - a little extra money will fix that ! Always be ready for the unexpected !  If it can fail. it will !!   8-)

Raymond    Boeing or nothing
KFLL     South Florida

Murphy's Law! "Anything that can go wrong, will go wrong" ;D

Today, I traced the new opening on the front panel of my sim
Then I connected my new monitor on top of my sim
It is connected to a second graphics card- two cards in a box.
I did that to look at the colors and adjustments.
I was to my liking in 5 min.

Tonite I did a flight with my 57. KJAX to KMIA -  35 minutes.
I turned the two monitors on.
After FSX is loaded, the top goes white.
When I did the preflight , I dragged the overhead and the CDU on the upper monitor - for the whole flight. The pointer goes from one monitor to the second , it just goes.

I enjoyed that !

Tomorrow is 3D vision day.  ;D

Raymond Boeing or nothing
KFLL   South Florida

I have a tiny second monitor, a square one (15" I think), nd I found it very handy for having charts and things (sometimes a manual/tutorial). I appreciate the handiness of a second monitor, but I can only guess what having half a dozen are like! Awesome I would reckon. Unfortunately the power lead to that second monitor is loose fitting in the socket and the monitor was shutting off randomly, so at the moment it is not connected. One day I'll get around to replace the lead and get it working again.
:-/ :-[

Hi, I enlarged the face of my sim, no problem. then I cut the base of the new monitor. It is round, about 9" across., the cut is about 3 inches in.
It is top and bottom plastic, but there  is a stamped metal disc inside.
After I replaced the blade, I cut it in 1 minute.
I reinstalled my computer, and all the cables. Lot of tie wraps.
This was it for saturday. We were invited at some friends' place. They live in France 6 months and come here another 6 mos for the winter.
The dinner was great !!
Today I went to 3D. It was already there, because when Nvidia installed the graphic drivers It did 3D at the same time.
5 minutes, I was ready.
First I went to my old Cessna 172.
The depth perception is there ! on the side view, 10' of the wing is sticking out the display. Easier to move around the building, you know the distance. This was fun.  On the runway, and rolling, great. In the air,
the buildings look real. Landing was also different, I knew the distance to the runway and when to flare.
In airliners, different.  The 57 and 67 were very similar. Out the windshield, it is real. The view from the tower is incridible. Like looking out the window at the airport.In the air, there is a better feeling of height !!  I stopped these flights short to switch aircraft. Of course my OVH and CDU were on my second display. - not 3D, I see them regular very clearly.
I went to the 777. The VC is completly out the display in front of me about 1 foot away. all the controls, switches are in 3d, the power quadrant in his place, so many details, like a real one in miniature.
When I went to touch the glareshield on top, my hand went through it.
As good as the 777 was looking, I could not fly it. My pointer was in mid space and I could not activate anything.
that is a major drawback for that plane. I will contact Nvidia to try to fix that.
I was moving my head to try to see behind the windshield posts.!!!
With the GA plane, I was lifting my head above the panel to see down in front.
So far so good, but I need to fix the 777.
I was also thinking that two monitors like my new one, side by side in 3d, one in the middle with the VC 3d , one for the OVH on top and a smaller one for the CDU on the console, would yet make things AAA.

The picture is stable, a bit darker than what I am used to, I also dimmed the room some, as recommended. 8-)

Raymond   Boeing or nothing
KFLL  South Florida.

Happy to hear that you managed to get your new monitor in and that the 3D vision is so great!
Thanks to you, we now now that with the right equipment FSX can move into the world of 3D.

I wonder why the 757 and 767 are fine with the 3D, but not the 777. I would have expected it to be the opposite of that. :o

Mark, I think the issue with the 777 is simple. It is a VC and as such the whole panels and cabin is in 3D. I see the ND like a good foot recessed under the glareshield, the throttle levers stick out 6" up. I simply cannot get my pointer to activate anything because it is in space
The whole thing is out the display right in front of me.
In the case of the 57-67, the panels are in 2D, no relief and my pointer is fine. the rest of the cockpit is 3D.  The overhead, on a second display is 2D, no problem
Outside the windshield, all 3D
On some of the controls, in Nvidia, I have a message " controlled by FSX or controlled by the program ? I believe Microsoft got things ready with Nvidia up to a point.  ;D
Today I will try to see if I can do anything about the 777.
The water looks better, the action of the wind is seen on the waves at low alt. Landing west against the wind, the waves go from the beach like they should.   8-)

Raymond    Boeing or nothing
KFLL   South Florida