Like the topic says, my current long haul flight fligt from YMML to KLAX (expected to be 16.5 hours) is going well. I only have about 7.5 hours left to go and it's flying as steady as a rock. I've never had any major problems with long haul flights, except for the occasional FSX CTD (this can happen to any addon aircraft I have that is capable of an 6+ hour flight, and not just the CS 777).
On the takeoff, it took a while to reach V1, VR and V2 (I thought for a while I might not have enough runway :o). The climb was nice and it never exceeded 5000 fpm. It took more than 3.5 minutes to reach 10000 feet, when it usually took about 2 minutes to reach it before. It was a bit unstable turning from HORSH to ALBAK (YMML DOSEL8.16 SID), and again on the turn from ALBAK to CHIMU, but no where near as bad. I think my MS Sidewinder FF2 joystick plays a part in this because as soon as I disable the joystick (CTRL+K), it stops being so harsh (I did this midway through the turn towards CHIMU. Maybe I should buy a new joystick. :-/

Anyway. It's going extremely well and all I have to do now is wait until it reaches the T/D. Who knows, maybe I'll pause it and go to bed. It's now 9:30am and I've been up all night doing a lot of testing on the 777, before starting this long haul flight. :o

On my next long haul flight, I plan to do a longer one in the 777-200LR. I just need to pick what flight I'll do that is a fair bit longer than the current 6989nm flight. :D

[edit]I forgot to say that I did not use a reduced thrust takeoff, nor did I switch the thrust to CLB in CDU. I did notice that the N2 indicators went RED briefly during the climb. It went fully on near the T/C (for about 30 seconds)[/edit]

Going with a flight AC34 from CYVR to CYYZ (4 hour flight), and I have to say that I am complete amazed on how well everything is looking and working......AWESOME work CS......

 I just got to nail down those T/O.......I was so fast that I went from flap 5 to zero in two seconds  :D

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...Who knows, maybe I'll pause it and go to bed. It's now 9:30am and I've been up all night doing a lot of testing on the 777, before starting this long haul flight...

My wife thinks I'm crazy when I do the same. Maybe she is right, but is good to know I'm not the only one. :o

Pinatubo wrote on Jul 11^th, 2013 at 12:00am:

Quote: ...Who knows, maybe I'll pause it and go to bed. It's now 9:30am and I've been up all night doing a lot of testing on the 777, before starting this long haul flight... My wife thinks I'm crazy when I do the same. Maybe she is right, but is good to know I'm not the only one. :o

You are not alone! My wife just rolls her eyes and shakes her head. At least she'll make a cup of coffee for me every now and then. The rest of the time, I have to get my own (and maybe have to make her a cup of coffee too!). :D ;D

Markoz and All,
I am glad you all enjoying with 777 1.2 version. Unfortunately I stocked in second step of installations.
Download completed with out any problem. Activation also completed.
When I opened the first screen, 777 has no landing gear and none of cockpit panel DU has power and they are all black . In background both engines are in high idle sound:'(

Is it possible I am using P3D? I have no longer using FSX.

Ahmet

Air Canada 33 (77L) from Vancouver to Sydney, approx. 7756 miles.

Okay. Flight is finished and it was great! Other than the weird behaviour at the beginning of the SID, it went all the way to LAX without any problems. It also took 15.1 hours to do, and I'm beat (never got to go to bed yet). But I'm sure happy as Larry about how well it all went!

No looking into a longer flight, so I'll look into Vancouver to Sydney in the LR!

Hi Ahmet.


asanal wrote on Jul 11^th, 2013 at 3:56am:

Markoz and All, I am glad you all enjoying with 777 1.2 version. Unfortunately I stocked in second step of installations. Download completed with out any problem. Activation also completed. When I opened the first screen, 777 has no landing gear and none of cockpit panel DU has power and they are all black . In background both engines are in high idle sound:'( Is it possible I am using P3D? I have no longer using FSX.

I Haven't tried v1.2 in P3D yet. I wanted to be sure it all went well in FSX.

Take a look in you registry to see what the entries look like. Make sure yopu have a x770 and x772 entry. If they are missing, then that coulfd be you problem.

I have the advantage that I have FSX and P3D installed, so copying from FSX to P3D is the easy way. ;)

Markoz wrote on Jul 11^th, 2013 at 2:42am:

Pinatubo wrote on Jul 11th, 2013 at 12:00am: Quote: ...Who knows, maybe I'll pause it and go to bed. It's now 9:30am and I've been up all night doing a lot of testing on the 777, before starting this long haul flight... My wife thinks I'm crazy when I do the same. Maybe she is right, but is good to know I'm not the only one. :o You are not alone! My wife just rolls her eyes and shakes her head. At least she'll make a cup of coffee for me every now and then. The rest of the time, I have to get my own (and maybe have to make her a cup of coffee too!). :D ;D

About to wrap up KIAH-ESSA (163 NM to go).  I do the same thing and if my wife weren't gone on a trip (Flight Attendant), I'd get dirty looks too! :)  

On the long hauls, I time them so they'll fly while I'm sleeping (kind of realistic anyway).  Started at 8pm last night, woke up at my usual time at 5am this morning and I'll land and shut down before I get ready for work.

The 772ER (GE) has performed quite well.  I did get the red N2 indicators too (almost all the way through the climb between FL200 and FL370 cruise, but otherwise not a big deal.

I'm going to fly ENGM-VTBS with the 777-200ER, its a 11hours flight. Hopefully everything goes well :)

Markoz wrote on Jul 11^th, 2013 at 8:03am:

Okay. Flight is finished and it was great! Other than the weird behaviour at the beginning of the SID

My first departure was crazy... Took off at RKSI, speed zoomed straight past 250kts, then overspeed, then the nose pitched up to compensate for overspeed, then quite a stall (speed went down to 90kts  :-/ ) and then a few ups and downs but now im cruising and everything seems fine.

Do you adjust the TRIM to the same setting (or s close as you can get) as listed on the TAKEOFF page? I do this as often as I can (which depends on if I remember or not). It seems to effect the takeoff performance if I don't do it. :-/

Im on my half my to VTBS from ENGM and the flight is going well except the autopilot's behavior
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KIMWzmLgxk&feature=youtu.be
Video from cruise.

So, for those of you doing these long hauls, does this mean that
anti-ice nonsense is no longer a problem, or do I still have to worry
about my engines flaming out if I don't give some magic key sequence?

Also, it sounds from the description, that no one has VNAV working
on takeoff, is that correct?

Did I read correctly ? You manually change TO to CLB in the CDU ?

Should this not be automatic with LNAV, VNAV and TOGA set at takeoff and AP engaged after 400 ft  ?

Markoz wrote on Jul 11^th, 2013 at 1:23pm:

Do you adjust the TRIM to the same setting (or s close as you can get) as listed on the TAKEOFF page? I do this as often as I can (which depends on if I remember or not). It seems to effect the takeoff performance if I don't do it. :-/

I can never determine my CG, I think that's the problem  :-/

LOLcakes wrote on Jul 12^th, 2013 at 12:30am:

Markoz wrote on Jul 11th, 2013 at 1:23pm: Do you adjust the TRIM to the same setting (or s close as you can get) as listed on the TAKEOFF page? I do this as often as I can (which depends on if I remember or not). It seems to effect the takeoff performance if I don't do it. :-/ I can never determine my CG, I think that's the problem  :-/

IMO the problem would be easily solved adding a field in 777's ACE, showing ZFWCG and TOCG values during all loading steps (pax + cargo + fuel) as used by another developer. This way, we would have accurate data to insert into the FMC.

This works for me, about as accurate as you can get! http://www.captainsim.org/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1220997876

Christianz wrote on Jul 11^th, 2013 at 4:01pm:

Im on my half my to VTBS from ENGM and the flight is going well except the autopilot's behavior http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KIMWzmLgxk&feature=youtu.be Video from cruise.

You might need to change the [Custom Autopilot] settings:

From this:

[Custom Autopilot]
AP_Roll_speed=3.91
AP_Roll_window=5.7
AP_Roll_controlstep=2825


To this:

[Custom Autopilot]
AP_Roll_speed=4
AP_Roll_window=7
AP_Roll_controlstep=1500


Jack Vogel wrote on Jul 11^th, 2013 at 4:20pm:

So, for those of you doing these long hauls, does this mean that anti-ice nonsense is no longer a problem, or do I still have to worry about my engines flaming out if I don't give some magic key sequence? Also, it sounds from the description, that no one has VNAV working on takeoff, is that correct?

The Anti-Ice seems to be working (I left them set on AUTO and did NOT use SHIFT+H to turn the carb heat on, which was a fix in v1.1!

VNAV is working fine for me! It went wonky on me, as I stated in my original post. When I tried it again, with my joystick disabled. It performed just fine. It didn't wobble at all. The turn was very smooth.


BrzI wrote on Jul 11^th, 2013 at 9:33pm:

Did I read correctly ? You manually change TO to CLB in the CDU ? Should this not be automatic with LNAV, VNAV and TOGA set at takeoff and AP engaged after 400 ft  ?

No you did not read it correctly. I said I did not change it from TO to CLB (it was in reference to a post of yours that I had read in the forum though). I left it to do what it does it's own way. Should it change on its own normally? I don't know. :-/
I am not, nor have I ever been, a real pilot, so I don't normally check that in these modern airliners, unless an addon aircraft requires them to be changed manually, then I do change them. So IF they should change automatically and don't, then I would have to say that it's wrong. All in all, the flight was really good from beginning to end. Except for that bit of a wobble at the beginning, that seems to be being caused by my joystick (see my response to Jack Vogel question).


LOLcakes wrote on Jul 12^th, 2013 at 12:30am:

Markoz wrote on Jul 11th, 2013 at 1:23pm: Do you adjust the TRIM to the same setting (or s close as you can get) as listed on the TAKEOFF page? I do this as often as I can (which depends on if I remember or not). It seems to effect the takeoff performance if I don't do it. :-/ I can never determine my CG, I think that's the problem  :-/

I'm not sure, but it might be the reason. I just did a test flight with a very light aircraft (TOW 379,605) and it never went above 5500 fpm.

I know the Captain Sim 777 isn't perfect, but I am very pleased with the results I'm getting in v1.2. As always, that's how I feel about it. It is good enough (and was in v1.1 IMO) for some very long haul flights that I want to do in it. ;)

Mark, did you see any anomalies with the chronometer during the flight?

I did a small North-South test flight yesterday and saw the clock jump from 10:59 (which was the correct (P:Local time, xxxx) time) to 12:00. It skipped an hour ahead of local time.

I can see where there has been some improvements in the clocks but I feel there are still some bugs.

Lost in Isaan wrote on Jul 12^th, 2013 at 11:56pm:

Mark, did you see any anomalies with the chronometer during the flight? I did a small North-South test flight yesterday and saw the clock jump from 10:59 (which was the correct (P:Local time, xxxx) time) to 12:00. It skipped an hour ahead of local time. I can see where there has been some improvements in the clocks but I feel there are still some bugs.

Clock acts strange like you describe. The time/timer display sometimes disappears for a few minutes, but it always comes back. I don'y know what time it displays because it is never the local time, nor GMT/UTC time.

Yep. Still some work needed.

Just did my first long haul (YSSY - OMDB) and apart from the pitot heat issue (had to press SHIFT-H) didn't have any major issues, in fact it was the first relatively trouble free flight I have done in the CS 777 - well done.

pup wrote on Jul 13^th, 2013 at 3:32am:

Just did my first long haul (YSSY - OMDB) and apart from the pitot heat issue (had to press SHIFT-H) didn't have any major issues, in fact it was the first relatively trouble free flight I have done in the CS 777 - well done.

I did a flight where I thought I should have gotten that problem, but I didn't. I assumed that because the Upper EICAS was displaying EAI beside the N1 indicators, that the Anti Ice was working like it should. I guess I will have to check it out by flying somewhere really cold (starting to shiver just thinking about it)! :-/

Markoz wrote on Jul 12^th, 2013 at 7:46am:

AP_Roll_speed=4 AP_Roll_window=7 AP_Roll_controlstep=1500

This setting takes out the slight oscillation in the AP and it also rolls into turns a bit less aggressively.

Ben

Saratoga wrote on Jul 14^th, 2013 at 3:58am:

Markoz wrote on Jul 12th, 2013 at 7:46am: AP_Roll_speed=4 AP_Roll_window=7 AP_Roll_controlstep=1500 This setting takes out the slight oscillation in the AP and it also rolls into turns a bit less aggressively. Ben

In the takeoff, climb and cruise phases of the flight, I don't see any difference between that setting and the one that comes in v1.2.
But using the above settings, and once I'm close to landing (about 2 miles from the runway), my 777 starts rocking left and right, getting worse as it gets closer to the runway, and most often ends with it crashing. Sometimes it's lucky and just bounces around on the grass beside the runway without crashing (because the main gear on one side contacts the ground first), but not very often.
If I switch back to the one that comes with v1.2, it comes in straight and level every time, even with a 20-30 knot crosswind. It also lands in the centre of the runway every time.
So I guess one uses the settings that gives the results. ;)

Hi Mark I noticed the same thing by changing to the 4.7.1500 settings the
aircraft is stable in flight.. but off when landing.. Your correct  I often come in
to land to my left on autopilot always..... if I use the original setting I get unstable flight but straight down the middle landings....is there a work around?

Carlo

Hi Carlo.

It's strange that yours is steady during the ILS approach, but not in the flight. With the 1.2 default settings, mine appears to be fine in all phases of flight. I don't have any solution really, except to maybe try different settings. Like trying a mix of both settings. :-/