Upgrade now includes approach and landing call-outs.
You will need to already have the original V-One gauge installed and working (v-one_301230.zip).

Now available in the Avsim library, search for:
V-One Gauge for B737-200/Adv (Upgrade)

Take-off Sounds (*New*):
80 knots
V1
Vr
*Positive Rate*
*V2 plus 10*
Flaps Up
Gear Up
Slats Retract

Approach Sounds:
Slats Extended
Gear Down
Flaps 15
Flaps 25
Flaps 30
Flaps 40

Landing Sounds:
Spoilers Deployed (when Auto Spoilers armed)
Reverse Thrust Available (when nose wheel down)
80 knots
60 knots

Sounds always available:
Auto Flight
Spoilers Deployed
Slats Extended
Gear Down

Hi Paul,

first thanks a lot for Your great tool and Your new update !  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

I just have a request : Would it be posssible, to put the speedmarkers automatically to the speedindicator in accordance to Your (very useful!) speedcard at an later update ?
(It's very hard to hit the right numbers via mouseclick  :()

Thanks and
   kind Regards
        Dietmar

toelg wrote on Nov 18^th, 2012 at 8:10pm:

Hi Paul, first thanks a lot for Your great tool and Your new update !  [smiley=thumbsup.gif] I just have a request : Would it be posssible, to put the speedmarkers automatically to the speedindicator in accordance to Your (very useful!) speedcard at an later update ? (It's very hard to hit the right numbers via mouseclick  :() Thanks and    kind Regards         Dietmar

Hi Dietmar,

Thank you for your complement. Not getting much of those this go around  ;)

I took some time last night and wrote some XML to place the speed bugs and it works perfectly!
Although anything above 160 knts wasn't correct because the gauge itself is not a linear display but I can work through that with no problems.

While I'm at it I will also set the Vref speed and 'clean speed' bugs for approach.

Thanks for your suggestion. I'm always up for a challange  :)

wrote on Nov 19^th, 2012 at 3:31pm:

Thank you for your complement. Not getting much of those this go around  ;)

Well let me add mine. It's a great aid to flying the 737 and I for one am grateful for the update!.

Cheers & Thanks.

John

Indeed, outstanding job Paul ! Thank you very much for sharing.
Lex

As said in another forum. Well done, again, Paul. Thanks for being that active on enhancing those nice planes.  :)

1-I installed V-One to 737-200 and 730-200ADV, Both planes has no sound for V1+ calls. :-[

2-Are there any Power EPR Settings Charts?

Thanks
Sanal

asanal wrote on Nov 29^th, 2012 at 10:19pm:

2-Are there any Power EPR Settings Charts?

Those are in the PDC if you like. If you enter the data needed, it should work out some EPR values for the TO.


Quote:

1-I installed V-One to 737-200 and 730-200ADV, Both planes has no sound for V1+ calls.

Did you open both new windows for Paul's gauge at least once? That's the yellow text string and the speed card. Just asking because that action is needed to initialize the gauge.

1-Yes, both of them on, but no call out.

2- It looks like 737-200 Power output is greater then faactory built engines

http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/5889/737epr.jpg

asanal wrote on Nov 29^th, 2012 at 10:19pm:

1-I installed V-One to 737-200 and 730-200ADV, Both planes has no sound for V1+ calls. :-[

Both gauges appear when you select each one from the menu?
Did you confirm functionality of the original V-One Gauge prior to installing this upgrade?

No sounds:
1. Did you install dsd_fsx_xml_sound.gau to the C:\..\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\Gauges folder?
2. Did you place all the sound files in the C:\..\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\Sound\V-One folder?

No sounds:
1. Did you install dsd_fsx_xml_sound.gau to the C:\..\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\Gauges folder?
2. Did you place all the sound files in the C:\..\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\Sound\V-One folder?

Both, yes

1-http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/7306/vone.jpg

2-http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/1341/vone2.jpg


Both gauges appear when you select each one from the menu?
Did you confirm functionality of the original V-One Gauge prior to installing this upgrade?
I will check.

asanal wrote on Nov 30^th, 2012 at 2:01am:

No sounds: 1. Did you install dsd_fsx_xml_sound.gau to the C:\..\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\Gauges folder? 2. Did you place all the sound files in the C:\..\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\Sound\V-One folder? Both, yes 1-http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/7306/vone.jpg 2-http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/1341/vone2.jpg Both gauges appear when you select each one from the menu? Did you confirm functionality of the original V-One Gauge prior to installing this upgrade? I will check.

No wonder it doesn't work...this is a Prepar3D installation! The dsd_fsx_xml_sound.gau is not compatable.

I'm not sure what you're trying to show with images  :-?

wrote on Nov 30^th, 2012 at 9:46am:

No wonder it doesn't work...this is a Prepar3D installation! The dsd_fsx_xml_sound.gau is not compatable.

Mystery solved.



Quote:

2- It looks like 737-200 Power output is greater then faactory built engines

Did you apply the changes to the aircraft.cfg? The readme says.

Quote:

Aircraft.cfg file(s) changes: ______________________________________________________________ 1. Under the [WEIGHT_AND_BALANCE] section of the aircraft.cfg file(s) (in directories CS_B737-200 AND/OR CS_737-200ADV),   ensure that the values are as follows: reference_datum_position     =  0, 0, 0         empty_weight_CG_position     =  -9, 0, 0   (leave this step out when using the FDE mod) 2. Under the [TurbineEngineData] section change static thrust value to: static_thrust=19000      //23000

Without those edits, you have two and a half engines, so to speak.  :D

actually evan with 19,000lbs its still over powered.. the regular 737 only had ~14,500lbs of thrust and burned about .51-.52lbs of fuel per pound of thrust
the 737-200 advanced version had about 17,400lbs of thrust and im guna guess that same fuel burn rate per thrust..
but you have to remember the regular 737-200 is only rated for 110,000-115,500lbs and the advanced is rated for around 128,000lbs so it would need to extra thrust to make it out of the same airports...

the only engines that can put out more then 17,400lbs of thrust are the JT8D-200 series witch as far as i know there is not record of them being put on a 737-200 witch is a pitty because im sure that a derated one by 1,000lbs to 17,500lbs would be nice for a advanced version with its reduced fuel burn

btw the V-one gage is quite a nice little tool, one thing you might wana add to it though would be checklist page to it maybe for basic opp's

I wouldn't focus on that one thrust value in the sim. This leaves out how e.g. the drag is modelled and how the thrust relates to the (sim) fuel burn. So it's not like you would just enter the rw thrust values and be a happy pilot. Well, unfortunately not.  :-/

The trick on modelling a good sim flight model is to work around some FSX engine limitations and quirks. By this, the thrust value is one factor in a bunch of.. many. Take the air file for example.

CoolP wrote on Nov 30^th, 2012 at 8:08pm:

I wouldn't focus on that one thrust value in the sim. This leaves out how e.g. the drag is modelled and how the thrust relates to the (sim) fuel burn. So it's not like you would just enter the rw thrust values and be a happy pilot. Well, unfortunately not.  :-/ The trick on modelling a good sim flight model is to work around some FSX engine limitations and quirks. By this, the thrust value is one factor in a bunch of.. many. Take the air file for example.

i have been working off of some real take off charts that boeing has and with 19,000lbs of thrust its taking off way to soon and there is no way that in real life that you would cruse at 33,000 feet with only 70% N1 at over 100,000lbs GW with the 737-200

as for the fuel burn i have it fairly close giving Boeing's weight to range charts that they have. the hard part i have is that i don't know how much reserve fuel Boeing was planing for in there range charts.

and with the thrust set to 14,500 it climbs much more realistic as compared to the NGX, it can ezly make it to 33,000 feet Evan 35,000 feet witch is its max alt

Paul,

1-"No wonder it doesn't work...this is a Prepar3D installation! The dsd_fsx_xml_sound.gau is not compatable."

Ok. I continue use V1-One without sound. I am not going back to FSX

2-I'm not sure what you're trying to show with images
I was showing to you,V-One installed accordingly.  :D

3-Will you do Sound gauges for Prepar3D?






 

Ryan,
What will Fuel Flown gauges  show with 14500Lbs thrust?
Thanks :)

I think Pauls gauge is of great use, even without the sounds. By this, I just wanted to drop that he may have no control over the dsd_fsx_xml_sound gauge development as that's from another author (Doug Dawson). http://library.avsim.net/esearch.php?CatID=fsxgau&DLID=158634
Don't worry, it's meant to be used by other talented developers like Paul. It supports FS9 and FSX. And the idea, the concept on the 737 and the sounds are all from Paul.

The differences between FSX and P3D aren't that big, so I doubt that huge problems cause the incompatibility. It may just be the version string or the wrong name of the flight sim process to trigger such no-go events. As I saw, it uses Simconnect and, as P3D features a slightly different version, may fail to initialize or find the spot to actually start working.

Well, you can write the author if you like.

asanal wrote on Nov 30^th, 2012 at 10:47pm:

Ryan, What will Fuel Flown gauges  show with 14500Lbs thrust? Thanks :)

around 7540lbs per engine at full power at take off, in cruse around FL300 it will be around 3300-3000lbs giver take

Ryan, thanks. I will try in P3D.


CooIP,

I utulize V-One in my flights.
It is a good idea I will try to contact author (Doug Dawson)
:D

Ryan,
I made a test flight with 737-200.
116,000Lbs GW. Temp 15C. Thrust set to 14500lbs in aircraftcfg file.
Full power takeoff EPR 2.24 Fuel Flow reached to 5560Lbs.
737 wheels off at aprx 6000Ft Rwy.

asanal wrote on Dec 1^st, 2012 at 5:13am:

Ryan, I made a test flight with 737-200. 116,000Lbs GW. Temp 15C. Thrust set to 14500lbs in aircraftcfg file. Full power takeoff EPR 2.24 Fuel Flow reached to 5560Lbs. 737 wheels off at aprx 6000Ft Rwy.

you need change this in the CFG

[TurbineEngineData]
fuel_flow_gain = 0.002                          //Gain on fuel flow
inlet_area = 19.6                               //Square Feet, engine nacelle inlet area
rated_N2_rpm = 29920                            //RPM, second stage compressor rated value
static_thrust=14500      //23000
afterburner_available = 0                       //Afterburner available?
reverser_available = 1                          //Thrust reverser available?
ThrustSpecificFuelConsumption = 0.515             //Thrust specific fuel consumption (Jets)
AfterBurnThrustSpecificFuelConsumption = 0      //TSFC with afterburn/reheat engaged  


you need to change what i have hilghted to .51-.52

It may be useful to move FDE mod questions to another topic as this one is about the V-One gauge from Paul. Just trying to avoid that folks read a lot of technical data which, so far, isn't regarded by Paul's gauge. I know that he only supports his FDE data and the one from Bud (http://captainsim.org/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1339198966).

By this, maybe your mod is supported in the future. But as long as this isn't the case, it may confuse the readers to discuss it here. I hope that makes sense.  :)

Ryan I made another test flight please see your post: :)
http://captainsim.org/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1354222724

You've posted in the topic regarding Bud's FDE mod, Ahmet.  :-/ Ryan's is here. http://captainsim.org/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1354222724

opps.. :-[ I will change it.

Done  :D

Excellent job, again!!! hope the 707 and 727 are getting the same makeover soon.

Does this work with C/F extension?
Thank you!

liser wrote on Dec 19^th, 2012 at 9:08pm:

Does this work with C/F extension? Thank you!

I have it installed on the C/F and it seems to work fine.

The gauge will not give proper v-speeds for the -100 though.