This XML gauge is for the CS 707-300 and expansions, FSX only.

Now in the Avsim library, search for:
V-One Gauge for B707-300 with Call-Outs

The sounds:

• 80 knots
  
• V1
  
• VR
  
• V2
  
• Gear Up
  
• Flaps Up
  
• Slats Retract
  

The gauge will calculate the correct v-speeds for gross weight and provide required trim units.
The v-speeds are adjusted for altitude and temperature.
Optimum FL and EPR are displayed based on current gross weight and are continually updated.
Clean speed (no flaps) is calculated as is Vref40 and Vref50.
Fuel, Gross Weight, OAT and CG are displayed.
KG, LB, °C and °F  can be toggled by a mouse click.
If the current gross weight has exceeded the max gross weight a 'red' warning of overloading is displayed.
The v-speeds will display 'red' when the aircraft's TOW has been exceeded based on altitude & temperature.
Elapsed flight time and fuel used can be reset at anytime by clicking on their displays.

The main gauge is a text display of:

• Vertical Speed
  
• Pitch
  
• EPR
  
• N1%
  
• Fuel Flow
  
• TAS
  
• TAT
  
  After flap selection, the following will display for Take-Off:
  
• Flaps selected
  
• Required Trim/Current Trim
  
• V1, Vr & V2

Both the main gauge and datacard can be toggled off and on via an icon.

http://i823.photobucket.com/albums/zz155/fsxpaul/FSX/707-300.jpg

Paul for president! Cool, I gotta have and try this later. Thanks, Paul.  :)

will download when i get off work and try it out, thank you very much.

Installed as per notes but the gauge does not show... only black squares. The gauge is in the fsx gauge folder ....

TKS Paul

Lucky043 wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2012 at 10:38pm:

Installed as per notes but the gauge does not show... only black squares. The gauge is in the fsx gauge folder .... TKS Paul

The gauge does not go into the FSX\Gauge folder. Please re-check your installation.

I've never experienced the black squares symptom before. All I can think of right now is to
make sure you've installed the font into the FSX\Font folder.

I've installed it in all my 707 variants. Works! I haven't checked the sounds yet, but since the gauges showed up, it should work. I will try some flights in the next days.

Thanks again.  :)

Sorry but where does gauge ''dsd_fsx_xml_soud.gau''.  

Lucky043 wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2012 at 11:36pm:

Sorry but where does gauge ''dsd_fsx_xml_soud.gau''.

The 'dsd_fsx_xml_sound.gau' does go into the FSX\Gauge folder. I thought you were referring to the 'black squares' issue.

This is from the 727-100 but the same question still applies:

First, check if you can open the gauge as shown below.
If you can't, you must double check your installation again.

http://i823.photobucket.com/albums/zz155/fsxpaul/FSX/FSXMenu.jpg

Paul, I did a full flight from Auckland to Brisbane and things worked out nicely. I did have the feeling that the rotation at VR came in a bit too soon for the plane, but that's just from one attempt. The sounds worked for the takeoff, but I don't recall hearing something on the gear and flaps when landing.
[edit]Explained by the author. All is well.  :)[/edit]

thank you paul! this takes the guess work out of flying this beautiful bird.

Thanks CoolP,


CoolP wrote on Aug 4^th, 2012 at 8:15pm:

I did have the feeling that the rotation at VR came in a bit too soon for the plane, but that's just from one attempt.

I have put in provision to change the CG which in turn changes the feel of rotation. The default 'CgOffSet' value is -1.0, try 0.0 for your next flight (see the readme707.txt file for instructions). This will give a lower trim unit value which results in a slower rotation.


Quote:

The sounds worked for the takeoff, but I don't recall hearing something on the gear and flaps when landing.

At this time there is no landing sounds implemented...only take-off. Maybe at a later time.

For anyone who would like to install the V-One gauge with FS9:

As stated in the original post, this gauge is for FSX only and is categorized at Avsim as a FSX gauge.

I have not performed any testing with FS9 nor do I wish to support (sorry).

The gauge might work with the V-One main gauge only as it is written in FS9 compatible xml code. It will not work with the sounds, icons or data card. Anyone can try to install the V-One portion of the gauge but I will not be able to trouble shoot any issues you may have.

Explore the unknown if you dare and let us known the results ;)

Thanks, Paul I will try that change on the pitch value. And thanks for clarifying the landing sound case. [edit]No change needed. Just a better pilot.  :-/  :o[/edit]

Does it only calculate flaps T/O 14 because i cant get it to calculate them for 25. Is is possible to change a value in the cfg to get it to calculate flaps 25(for those Heavy cargo departures :P :o )

Eric.M wrote on Aug 8^th, 2012 at 7:40am:

Does it only calculate flaps T/O 14 because i cant get it to calculate them for 25. Is is possible to change a value in the cfg to get it to calculate flaps 25(for those Heavy cargo departures :P :o )

Flaps 25 would be nice, but I have no access to flap 25 take-off speeds to implement any calculations into the gauge   :(

Those Boeing docs always speak about flaps 14 for takeoff. Only the go-around phase includes a small segment with a flaps 25 climbout. So my guess would be that those flaps 14 settings fit all cases. But one could guesstimate a subtraction value for a flaps 25 takeoff.

Still, I don't know if the plane is happy when you have high takeoff weights and the added drag of 25 in place.

Hi fsxpaul,

After two flights on a B707-300C (NZAA/YSSY and YSSY/YBCS), using "V-One" and "'Take Off Data Card", I'm glad to say it works very well. Congrats.

But let me put three comments:

1) One thing I've noticed is that [Fuel Used] only starts counting after [V1] be opened. Is it right? Maybe I'm doing something wrong.

2) I've also noticed that "Take-off/Landing Data Card" shows the "Q" code for altimeter setting as [QHN]. Wouldn't be
[QNH] instead of [QHN]?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v702/Pinatubo/Flight%20Simulator/V-OneTOLDataCard.png

[QNH] - Barometric pressure adjusted to sea level, used up to 18,000 ft.
[QNE] - ISA standard pressure setting of 29.92 inHg or 1013.2 hPa/mbar, above FL180.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QNH
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QNE#cite_note-0

3) Before installing "V-One", to get M.80 @ FL300, thrust levers were adjusted at 72%. Now, it just need 63%. Did you ever notice that?

BTW, I've made a few modifications at icons window (panel.cfg) to allow to include [GPS] and [Kneeboard], besides [V1] and [Take Off Data Card]. Now it shows two columns, with six icons, each one.

Before take-off:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v702/Pinatubo/Flight%20Simulator/V-OneTakeOff.png

During flight:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v702/Pinatubo/Flight%20Simulator/V-OneInflight.png

Before landing:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v702/Pinatubo/Flight%20Simulator/V-OneLanding.png

After landing:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v702/Pinatubo/Flight%20Simulator/V-OneAfterLanding.png

Thanks,

Pinatubo.

Pinatubo wrote on Aug 10^th, 2012 at 6:12am:

1) One thing I've noticed is that [Fuel Used] only starts counting after [V1] be opened. Is it right? Maybe I'm doing something wrong.

Yes, the V-One gauge must be opened first before the 'fuel used' is calculated. Here's something you can try:
Immediately after the aircraft is loaded, switch to the 2D view (Shift + A). The 2D view has the V-One gauge already opened and the calculations will begin at that point. This works best if you load your aircraft in the 3D cockpit and with the engines running. You can also reset the 'fuel used' by clicking on the display.


Quote:

2) I've also noticed that "Take-off/Landing Data Card" shows the "Q" code for altimeter setting as [QHN]. Wouldn't be [QNH] instead of [QHN]?

I released the V-One gauge for the 727-100 over 3 months ago and I'm surprised that someone hasn't mentioned this typo by now! If you really want to correct this typo, you could carefully edit the BMP file and switch the 'N' & 'H' and then save. I say this only because I'm unsure when or if I'll be updating the gauge any time soon.


Quote:

3) Before installing "V-One", to get M.80 @ FL300, thrust levers were adjusted at 72%. Now, it just need 63%. Did you ever notice that?

Yes, I am aware of the thrust change. The readme707.txt suggests the change to inlet_area=10.0 which in turn, provides more thrust. This was necessary to obtain the maximum optimum altitude. The 'real world' optimum altitude could not be achieved with the standard aircraft.cfg settings. Even after this additional thrust, the aircraft was still below the 'real world' optimum altitude by about 10,000 FT. This was the best performance / compromise I could get without making the 707 take-off like a rocket!


Thank you for taking the time to provide feedback on the V-One gauge!
Paul

wrote on Aug 10^th, 2012 at 3:35pm:

I released the V-One gauge for the 727-100 over 3 months ago and I'm surprised that someone hasn't mentioned this typo by now!

Haha, same here. Me is guilty!  :D Good catch, Pina!

CoolP wrote on Aug 10^th, 2012 at 9:35pm:

wrote on Aug 10th, 2012 at 3:35pm: I released the V-One gauge for the 727-100 over 3 months ago and I'm surprised that someone hasn't mentioned this typo by now! Haha, same here. Me is guilty!  :D Good catch, Pina!

Thanks CoolP.;D


Quote:

...If you really want to correct this typo, you could carefully edit the BMP file and switch the 'N' & 'H' and then save. I say this only because I'm unsure when or if I'll be updating the gauge any time soon...

Paul,

Thanks for your prompt reply. Don't worry about the typo. Mistakes do happen, independently of our will. You did an excellent work.

Done! :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v702/Pinatubo/Flight%20Simulator/DataCard.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v702/Pinatubo/Flight%20Simulator/DataCardMod.png

Pinatubo.

Nice work.  :)

Paul,

Thank you, I just found this after I decided to reinstall a plane I flew as an F/E.

Everything works except I never seem to get the V1, etc speeds.

I load the flight, fuel. FP, etc and do get 0 fuel, and flap speeds, etc but no V1.


What am I doing wrong?

Thanks.

Jack S.

wsciutti wrote on Sep 7^th, 2012 at 8:24pm:

Paul, Thank you, I just found this after I decided to reinstall a plane I flew as an F/E. Everything works except I never seem to get the V1, etc speeds. I load the flight, fuel. FP, etc and do get 0 fuel, and flap speeds, etc but no V1. What am I doing wrong? Thanks. Jack S.

Make certain to open both gauges...V-One and DataCard. You can also switch to the 2D main window to activate the gauge. You must select/set your flaps before the Vspeeds are shown (the gauge only works with flaps 14). Also, please see the readme.txt file    ;)

RTFI!!!! Like a charm!  :)

Brings back pleasant memories of JFK - EGKK  ;)

Jack

Any plans to upgrade this one as for the 737?

Lee Park wrote on Dec 14^th, 2012 at 9:12am:

Any plans to upgrade this one as for the 737?

You can get the V-One gauge for the 737 here: V-One Gauge for B737-200/Adv (Upgrade)

Markoz wrote on Dec 14^th, 2012 at 9:29am:

Lee Park wrote on Dec 14th, 2012 at 9:12am: Any plans to upgrade this one as for the 737? You can get the V-One gauge for the 737 here: V-One Gauge for B737-200/Adv (Upgrade)

I think Lee's question was: 'Any plans to upgrade the 707?'

The answer is 'I'm working on it!'  ;D

Not sure when it'll be released though...

wrote on Dec 14^th, 2012 at 4:44pm:

Markoz wrote on Dec 14th, 2012 at 9:29am: Lee Park wrote on Dec 14th, 2012 at 9:12am: Any plans to upgrade this one as for the 737? You can get the V-One gauge for the 737 here: V-One Gauge for B737-200/Adv (Upgrade) I think Lee's question was: 'Any plans to upgrade the 707?' The answer is 'I'm working on it!'  ;D Not sure when it'll be released though...

My bad. I misread Lee's post.  :-[

Paul, that is what I was asking. I pretty much got the 737 on when I say the upgrade. Have been a bit inactiva as I was away on honeymoon.

I have an American Airlines manual for the 707 series; since these CaptSim 707 series are fan powered, their available flap settings have a couple of possibilities regarding the real aircraft's design.
However, for ANY -300 fan version, the AA manual says ONLY 14 degrees for takeoff. Other types use flaps 30 deg.

We must remember also, that -720's, which were different, had other flap settings.

The FAA certification sheets for 707s show these differences:

707-300 /400 (straight pipes):
10 - 20 - 30 - 50 deg

707-300B Series:
14 - 17 - 25 - 50 deg

707-300C Series (upgraded):
14 - 25 - 50 deg

707-300C Series (original):
14 - 17 - 25 - 50 deg (same as -300B)

One sometimes sees a reference to a Flaps 40 setting; I have seen some tech documents referring to an FAA approved change to lock these out. However, the paper trail on all this is vague, at best.

All these V-speed in Paul's program look VERY ACCURATE when compared to actual data that I have. My congrats on his excellent work!

Hope this helps

Mike67 wrote on Dec 28^th, 2012 at 8:09pm:

All these V-speed in Paul's program look VERY ACCURATE when compared to actual data that I have. My congrats on his excellent work!

Thanks!

I used the only v-speed chart I had! I was meticulous on getting my gauge to reproduce those values as close as possible!

I agree, Paul. I am a data freak as well.

Another note - I installed the mod in the 300C as well and finally got it working. It turns out that the -300C panel uses the icons from a different tools cabinet than the one from the -300.

The entries for the -300C cargo panel.cfg should be as follows:

gaugexx=Captain_Sim.x702.tools!icons,  0,532,24,120
gaugexx=/V-One!v1_Icon,  0,478,24,54

The Sim.x702.tools!icons change was the only one necessary.

Again, great work!

Mike
KBUF